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12-08-2006, 01:03 AM
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Tragic. And just before XMAS.
The guy died trying to save his family. He did what most loving dads would do. Sounds cold, but makes me feel thankful owning a Hummer with all the safety gear possible..
James Kim’s body found in canyon; he had left stranded family to seek help
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16089354/
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12-08-2006, 01:11 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
That was truly sad. I was just glad the mom and daughters made it out safely. As a husband and dad I know if things had to go a certain way i would hope this would be the outcome. If only he had waited another day he could have been found with them.
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12-08-2006, 01:12 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
Poor family. I guess at some point I'd have gone back to the family, worried about them. But, really, who knows?
I feel for them.
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12-08-2006, 01:27 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
It is very tragic, but was totally avoidable. Being an uber computer nerd, he should have scouted out his route better than using crappy Google, Yahoo or Mapquest.. AND he should have read the sign at the beginning of the little "road" that he turned onto that clearly warned them that it was a road that was NOT maintained during the winter. There's gas stations on I-5 that they could have asked for directions, too.
Another thing he did wrong - NEVER deviate off of the roads into the forest. He left the road and went into terrain that seriously hampered the rescue effort. I bet they flew over him a couple of times while he was in the trees or down one of the canyons.
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12-08-2006, 01:36 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
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It is very tragic, but was totally avoidable. Being an uber computer nerd, he should have scouted out his route better than using crappy Google, Yahoo or Mapquest.. AND he should have read the sign at the beginning of the little "road" that he turned onto that clearly warned them that it was a road that was NOT maintained during the winter. There's gas stations on I-5 that they could have asked for directions, too.
Another thing he did wrong - NEVER deviate off of the roads into the forest. He left the road and went into terrain that seriously hampered the rescue effort. I bet they flew over him a couple of times while he was in the trees or down one of the canyons.
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Then he stopped and spent the night in the car.
I live in the deep south where the change of weather means it might rain or get foggy. But damn, I at least realize that you don't go camping in a washout or stop and sleep in my car on a mountain road this time of year.
Tragic, but was hugely avoidable.
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12-08-2006, 02:07 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
Dumbass. (brutal, I know)
Oregon search and rescue reportedly flew near the car once or twice, and after a week of NO results, his family hired more search helicopters and they located the girls within 2 days. Unfortunately, they hit the worst weather of the year so far. Recent photos of the car show the snow melted around it. Too bad they burned their tires instead of a Big FAT tree!
I won't even begin to speculate how they got up there or why he didn't simply walk back the way he drove in. I guess he had a whole week to sit there and talk himself into walking into the bottom of that canyon to die.
Sad, yes. But totally stupid.
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12-08-2006, 02:30 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
They just said on the local news that the dumbass didn't leave his car on the "main road", but pulled it off onto a spur road which I'm sure was partially obstructed by trees. He was on a mission to win that Darwin Award. Even in my H2, with siped tires, winch and all kinds of recovery gear, I wouldn't try to go over those roads in the winter.
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12-08-2006, 02:39 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
It's all over the media down here - TV, newspapers, everywhere.
And I agree with Drty and Rocks. Everyone down here is making him out to be some big hero. But they seem to keep skipping over the part where he almost got his whole family killed, not just himself.
I'm not totally heartless, I do feel bad for his family and friends. But maybe the media should stop patting this guy on the back and instead use it as an opportunity to educate people on how not to get stuck on a snowed over road, how to carry proper provisions when travelling in that kind of weather, etc., etc. But I guess then they might not have anyone to report about next winter.
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12-08-2006, 03:05 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
I guess I'm glad I don't bring my wife and boys to Moab.
I wouldn't want to be criticized like the above posts if something happens.
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12-08-2006, 03:08 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
What kind of car were they driving anyway? Poor guy, he basically put himself (and family) in danger almost before he even began by not taking precautions. You gotta be ready for anything. E-blankets, some food, water, flares, etc. are not items to be left behind if you're venturing out and about with the possibility of a storm, especially in the wild areas of North America.
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12-08-2006, 03:28 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
I'll bet most of you don't carry everything you need for survival on what would be routine trips either. Sure, you have your winter survival kit maybe, but what if it's only for 5 days and you are stuck for 10 days? After you are dead, we will all say you should've had a better kit, moron! What if an animal attacks you? Or a tree falls on you? Should've brought along a surgeon and a chainsaw. Never know, you might end up in the ocean, hope you packed a boat or sea plane! Don't forget to pack a snowmobile when you go skiing as well. Just some tips.
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12-08-2006, 03:37 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
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I guess I'm glad I don't bring my wife and boys to Moab.
I wouldn't want to be criticized like the above posts if something happens.
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Anyone who brings their kids to Moab are the real idiots.
This guy didn't choose to endanger his family. Were as some of the moab people will be choosing to endanger theirs. Which one is more idiotic?
Let's see now.........H2Rocks takes his family to Moab, CHOOSES to put his family in harms way, rolls the hummer injuring or possibly killing one of his kids or himself.
THAT WOULD BE IDIOTIC.
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12-08-2006, 03:49 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
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Anyone who brings their kids to Moab are the real idiots.
H2Rocks takes his family to Moab, CHOOSES to put his family in harms way, rolls the hummer injuring or possibly killing one of his kids or himself.
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I don't know why you're comparing Moab to S.Oregon but whatever.
H2Rocks is a real Man. What a stud.
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12-08-2006, 03:54 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
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Anyone who brings their kids to Moab are the real idiots.
This guy didn't choose to endanger his family. Were as some of the moab people will be choosing to endanger theirs. Which one is more idiotic?
Let's see now.........H2Rocks takes his family to Moab, CHOOSES to put his family in harms way, rolls the hummer injuring or possibly killing one of his kids or himself.
THAT WOULD BE IDIOTIC.
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Have you even been to Moab? Post pictures or STFU.
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12-08-2006, 03:57 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
Gawd! Are you guys brutal enough?
I am so sad, I was glued to Fox news that afternoon- just when they were saying how amazing it was that he was surviving and they were going to drop survival bags around the area. Then they came on and said they found a body. I was devastated.
I also thought he looked a little like H2Finally and it just put things into perspective. I have been thinkng about that family often.
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
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I don't know why you're comparing Moab to S.Oregon but whatever.
H2Rocks is a real Man. What a stud.
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Oh ya you're a girl. Let me replace idiot from the last line of my last statment with expected.
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12-08-2006, 03:58 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
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Originally Posted by dеiтайожни
I'll bet most of you don't carry everything you need for survival on what would be routine trips either. Sure, you have your winter survival kit maybe, but what if it's only for 5 days and you are stuck for 10 days? After you are dead, we will all say you should've had a better kit, moron! What if an animal attacks you? Or a tree falls on you? Should've brought along a surgeon and a chainsaw. Never know, you might end up in the ocean, hope you packed a boat or sea plane! Don't forget to pack a snowmobile when you go skiing as well. Just some tips.
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12-08-2006, 03:59 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
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I guess I'm glad I don't bring my wife and boys to Moab.
I wouldn't want to be criticized like the above posts if something happens.
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being criticized on the internet would be the least of your concerns
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12-08-2006, 04:01 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
Let's not forget he was also dehydrated and weak from not eating, they only fed the kids and the wife was breastfeeding both of the children. He obviously wasn't in the right frame of mind- but his heart was.
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12-08-2006, 04:03 AM
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Re: Tragic. And just before XMAS.
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Originally Posted by dеiтайожни
I'll bet most of you don't carry everything you need for survival on what would be routine trips either. Sure, you have your winter survival kit maybe, but what if it's only for 5 days and you are stuck for 10 days? After you are dead, we will all say you should've had a better kit, moron! What if an animal attacks you? Or a tree falls on you? Should've brought along a surgeon and a chainsaw. Never know, you might end up in the ocean, hope you packed a boat or sea plane! Don't forget to pack a snowmobile when you go skiing as well. Just some tips.
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I at least try to carry a brain, that's my best survival tool.
In Aubs' case it would be like this gun
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