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07-28-2005, 02:15 PM
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Do you think that they are okay or do you think they diminish the Hummer namebrand by rebaging GM products and posing them as "real" hummers?
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07-28-2005, 02:38 PM
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They serve a purpose but rebranded GM products they are not. Plus they are a stepping stone for many. I know of a number of instenses where people have bought H2's and either sold them to buy an H1 or have bought an H1 in addition to the H2.
Another thing that is interesting is the during the Paragon event this year I met a guy that sold his H2 when he got home from last years trip because he realized that he really wanted an H1. One guy broke his H2 and the rest of the trip was comparing H1 styles to replace his H2 with. I guess he told the dealer give me a price for a trade.
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07-31-2005, 04:56 PM
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As a newcomer to the HUMMER brand, I have to say that I have always admired both the H1 and H2. I will always want an H1 and when I stop driving 30,000+ miles per year, I will definitely own one.
The H3 seves a purpose for me.It can be my daily driver, my kids can fit in it, and I can park it in the city.
For now it will have to do, and I can say I am completely satisfied, it is absolutely a HUMMER!
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07-31-2005, 05:17 PM
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I am looking forward to the GM 24-test drive if it ever comes out for the H3. I would really like to see how parking it is going to be. Parking an H1 is easier than most any vehicle that I have driven. More spaces in the city for an H1 than an H2 also. H1 fits in garage whereas an H2 might not. Not sure how if any shorter the H3 is to the H1.
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07-31-2005, 09:59 PM
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You can view a side by side comparison on Hummer.com (GM website) Very cool, it gives a great perspective.
But still, I'd rather pay 45K for something I am going to drive into the ground at 30k miles a year than some thing I'd spend 150k on. To each his own, and I will own one some day!
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07-31-2005, 11:36 PM
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I'm not against the idea of smaller, less offroad capable, more mainstream HUMMERs at all. I am disappointed at the execution though, the H2 and H3 could have been so much better IMO.
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08-01-2005, 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by HMMWV:
I'm not against the idea of smaller, less offroad capable, more mainstream HUMMERs at all. I am disappointed at the execution though, the H2 and H3 could have been so much better IMO.
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Actually, at one point, I was seriously considering and H1.
But the more I realized the H2s capabilities on and off road, I couldn't justify logic(Not money) for IMHO downgrading to an H1. It's not a slam.
With the introduction to the H3 an equal if not better performer than the H1. The justification to buying an H1 becomes ridiculous.
GM hasn't done the H1 any favours by introducing the H2 and now the H3. People are starting to look at the H1 with more ridicule considering the fact that on and off road in whole, the H2 and H3 outperforms the H1 and the price difference is huge. I know money shouldn't be the issue, but that's what the unsuspecting public thinks.
Not a slam, just an observation.
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08-01-2005, 03:57 PM
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One question for you H1 drivers (great vehicle)
How many miles to your local Hummer dealer/service before the H2 and H3
How many miles to your local Hummer dealer/service after the H2 and H3
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08-01-2005, 09:18 PM
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The original number of dealers for Hummer (AM General) was much smaller then the GM/Hummer dealer network. There were no dealers in Abq for years after the original one went away. H1 owners could take their truck to a Buick dealer in town that had an authorized tech. Very strange but alot of H1 owners did low miles or had trucks driven alot of miles for service.
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08-02-2005, 12:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DennisAJC:
GM hasn't done the H1 any favours by introducing the H2 and now the H3.
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I know it wasn't a slam but a lot of people have left the H2 and went to the H1.
The H1 is more comfortable to drive. Not a slam on the H2 just my observation.
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08-02-2005, 12:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by ckhagman:
I know it wasn't a slam but a lot of people have left the H2 and went to the H1.
The H1 is more comfortable to drive. Not a slam on the H2 just my observation.
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Not to mention unusual frequency for repair service.
It's NOT a slam. But with the H2 and H3 out. You'll just be paying for the H1 badge. Not it's off road prowess.
I've never been in a situation where I've said,
" Man! If I had an H1, I wouldn't have gotten stuck!"
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"****! If I had an H1, I could have made it up that hill!"
Reason being, most of us here are confident we can ride with H1s and keep up or in some cases surpass. Mabye machine, mabye driver. Nevertheless, The H2 and H3s are HUMMERS by right, and because of it's price, more superior. Definitely more bang for the buck.
The majority of people on this board can easily make the switch to an H1. There's a reason they don't and it's definitely NOT about the money. For me, I don't see why I should. My H2 takes me were I want to go more reliably and comfortably than the H1. On or off road.
I don't want this to become some heated Bish is a ****head type post so FYI, it's just one mans opinion.
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08-02-2005, 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by HummerOfPrey05:
Do you think that they are okay or do you think they diminish the Hummer namebrand by rebaging GM products and posing them as "real" hummers?
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Does it diminish law when you dispense info without a license?
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08-02-2005, 01:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by ckhagman:
I know it wasn't a slam but a lot of people have left the H2 and went to the H1.
The H1 is more comfortable to drive. Not a slam on the H2 just my observation.
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You're kidding, right?
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08-02-2005, 01:55 AM
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uh, my H2 was much more comfortable that my H1...
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08-02-2005, 01:56 AM
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...but I drive my Road King HD as my daily driver...
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08-02-2005, 02:20 AM
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Ironically, I also find the pre-2004 H1's seats far better support wise than the H2's....at least for me.
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08-02-2005, 04:15 AM
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This must be a joke by Prey .
Each vehicle has it's pluses and minuses. I couldn't imagine driving an H1 to Moab from the Right Coast. But I'll do it in an H2. I also know there's not much I won't be able to do once there. Just check out the vids.
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08-02-2005, 10:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by DRTYFN:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ckhagman:
I know it wasn't a slam but a lot of people have left the H2 and went to the H1.
The H1 is more comfortable to drive. Not a slam on the H2 just my observation.
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You're kidding, right? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Which part. The comfort or the people switching. I drove an H2 before I got my truck and I just couldn't get comfortable. Maybe it is too big for me I don't know. But I waited 0 years for a Hummer and maybe my mind was saying if you waited 10 years why change to a different vehicle.
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08-02-2005, 10:31 AM
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I don't want this to become some heated Bish is a ****head type post so FYI, it's just one mans opinion.
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What is that supposed to mean.
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08-02-2005, 02:45 PM
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Do you think that they are okay or do you think they diminish the Hummer namebrand by rebaging GM products and posing them as "real" hummers
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I hope that the "next" Hummers will be either of these concepts:
1. The Open Top Adventurer - similar to a Land Rover D-90 type of vehicle - no frills, open top, smaller than an H1 but bigger than a jeep, highly capable (lockers/suspension or retro-fittable), soft top, simple design, off-road capable, with at least 35" tires. Everything about it is durable - rhino lined interior & waterproof seats stock!
2. A MEAN "hummer-esque" looking BIG full size pickup w/ a Duramax to compete with Dodge Cummins & F250 Powerstroke & GM full size pick-ups.
I think the Hummers that GM is producing now (H2, H3) are about getting as much market share as possible, (the suv is the hottest segment) and you can hardly fault a car company for wanting to sell cars.
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