American Pilots POWN3D by Canadian Pilots in TOP GUN Competition.

[DennisAJC]

Don't hate me. I'm just the messenger.

Americans threw everything they had but were ridiculed by Canadian pilots.

The Canadian Hornet team, comprised primarily of the 4 Wing out of Cold Lake, Alberta, tallied 30,432.32 points and was the only William Tell participant competing with the F/A-18 Hornet. The Canadian Hornets were competing against F-15s and F-16s belonging to the cream of the crop U.S. Air Force teams. Team Canada took first place in six out of 11 categories, finishing first in the standings for Operations Team, Profile 1, Aircrew Element, Weapons Director Team, Top Gun (Capt. Steve Nierlich) and Top Scope (Staff Sgt. Jeff Craver). These six awards gave Team Canada the victory in the Overall competition.
In other categories, Team U.S. Air Forces in Europe flying F-15C/Es took top honors in Profile 2 and second and third in Top Gun and Top Element. In combination, McDonnell Douglas F/A-18s and F-15s made a clean sweep in all operational categories.
A total of seven teams, Team Canada and six teams from the Air Force major commands all over the world, competed in the event held at Tyndall Air Force Base, Fla., Oct. 21-27.
In addition to the Canadian and U.S. Air Forces in Europe teams, this year's competition also included teams from the Air Combat Command, Air Education and Training Command, Air Force Reserve, Air National Guard and Pacific Air Forces.
The purpose of the competition, which began in 1954, is to have aircrews perform under simulated combat conditions in order to test the proficiency of the air-to-air combat organization and give the world a firsthand view of the organization's superiority, readiness and capability.

[DRTYFN]

I guess the Northern Mexican Air Force is better than our crop-duster pilots. Our real fighter pilots are FIGHTING.

[BlueTJCO]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

I guess the Northern Mexican Air Force is better than our crop-duster pilots. Our real fighter pilots are FIGHTING.

Kinda what I was thinking...........

[Mr. I - Man]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

I guess the Northern Mexican Air Force is better than our crop-duster pilots. Our real fighter pilots are FIGHTING.

Plus they went against Air Force F-16's & F-15, lets see them go against Marine and Navy F-18 Hornets now thats a dog fight. F-16 is not a dog fighting air craft its more of a close-air support or armed air escort and F-15's are just old school.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by Mr. I - Man

Plus they went against Air Force F-16's & F-15, lets see them go against Marine and Navy F-18 Hornets now thats a dog fight. F-16 is not a dog fighting air craft its more of a close-air support or armed air escort and F-15's are just old school.

The Canadian Hornet team, comprised primarily of the 4 Wing out of Cold Lake, Alberta, tallied 30,432.32 points and was the only William Tell participant competing with the F/A-18 Hornet. The Canadian Hornets were competing against F-15s and F-16s belonging to the cream of the crop U.S. Air Force teams.

I guess the Canadians knew better to use the F-18s. That's all they have.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

I guess the Northern Mexican Air Force is better than our crop-duster pilots. Our real fighter pilots are FIGHTING.

I'm sure they attended and were redeployed back into action(In shame)in Iraq. Just like the Canadian pilots were redeployed back into Afganistan.

[BKLYNH2]

Too bad you'll never see our stealth bombers coming until right before your lights go out.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

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I guess the Northern Mexican Air Force is better than our crop-duster pilots. Our real fighter pilots are FIGHTING.
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This whole puking ELCOVA thing is goin to the latrine !!!

[DRTYFN]

Reducing my post count keeps the simple minds busy.

[KenP]

It is kind of nice having super carriers to move our stuff around with.

It's a long reaching arm of power.

[3Hummer]

had the U.S. thrown out the 22 at them no one stood a chance, one pilot alone could have owned them. As for the airforce there primart AtA was the F-15 which is now being replaced by the 22 which will own anything. The F-16 is good at it to but is mostly an escort now along with being a bomber. And if the navy threw some hornets out there then the id like to have seen what happened.

[3Hummer]

in the end the one that truly shows which is best is red flag thats in Alaska i bieleve. If im not wrong the U.S. had every division

[tower]

[DennisAJC]

BWAHAHAHA!!!!




Reading all these excuses I can't help think how competent your Air Force Generals are to label these guys Cream Of The Crop yet you little civilians say otherwise.


THAT ARTICLE WAS FROM 1996!!!!!!





My name is DennisAJC, and I bring the RAAAR!!1!!!!

[tower]

And that was the only year Canada won anything! Remember we are talking about the country that gave us Helen Reddy!
"I am Woman..."

[DennisAJC]

Don't forget Shania.

[tower]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Don't forget Shania.

Okay, true. Good point.

[3Hummer]

very good point

[MarineHawk]

First of all, DRTY's right that the best pilots are killing douschebags in the Middle East instead of drinking berry tea and eating quiche in Saskatoon.

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Reading all these excuses I can't help think how competent your Air Force Generals are to label these guys Cream Of The Crop yet you little civilians say otherwise.

Where's the link to that story? Oh, I see, here it is. It's the Boeing press release, which really says:

Originally Posted by Boeing

ST. LOUIS, Nov. 04, 1996 -- The Canadian Hornet team, comprised primarily of the 4 Wing out of Cold Lake, Alberta, tallied 30,432.32 points and was the only William Tell participant competing with the F/A-18 Hornet. The Canadian Hornets were competing against F-15s and F-16s belonging to six U.S. Air Force teams. ...

http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/...dc/96-278.html

I can see how you got confused when typing the word "six" and accidentally typed "cream of the crop." And, of course, you accidentally typed the "threw everything at them" quote instead of the real lead "F/A-18 Hornets Sweep William Tell Competition." Silly Canassian.

Originally Posted by Mr. I - Man

Plus they went against Air Force F-16's & F-15, lets see them go against Marine and Navy F-18 Hornets now thats a dog fight. F-16 is not a dog fighting air craft its more of a close-air support or armed air escort and F-15's are just old school.

Right also. The F-18s and the F-22s are the only U.S. aircraft that have vectored thrust, are far and away the most superior dogfighters in the U.S. arsenal and probably the world (there are no Canadian-made fighter planes). However, as cool and fun as dogfighting in these competitions must seem, U.S. air-superiority fighters almost always take out enemy fighters at a range of many miles. I don't think there's been a single instance since Vietnam of any enemy fighter coming within three miles of a U.S. fighter in combat and living to tell about it. In short, U.S. fighters have not had to dogfight in the last twenty years, because we shoot down the enemy planes before they can get close enough. We jam their radar and other guidance systems so that they can't get a shot of and then nail them. In any event, the winning planes are all U.S. planes.

Originally Posted by 3Hummer

had the U.S. thrown out the 22 at them no one stood a chance, one pilot alone could have owned them. As for the airforce there primart AtA was the F-15 which is now being replaced by the 22 which will own anything. ...

The USAF wargames pitting the F-22 against the F-15 have demonstrated that they have to put eight F-15s on each F-22 to make it even close. And the F-15 is widely considered the best air superiority fighter over the last 30 years (again, no dogfighting needed). That it takes eight F-15s to match one F-22 is pretty amazing when you consider:

As of 2005, the F-15 in all air forces has an air-to-air combined kill record of 103 kills to 0 losses in air combat, and excluding the case of a Japanese F-15J that shot down another F-15J in 1995 due to an AIM-9 Sidewinder safety malfunction during air-to-air combat training with live weapons). The US and Israel maintain that to date, the air superiority versions of the F-15 (F-15A/B/C/D models) have never been shot down by an enemy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-15_Eagle


While the F-15s, F-16s, and F-18s all have the radar signature of a super-heated 27,000 lb chunk of metal, the F-22 has the radar signature of a bird and can cruise supersonic without afterburners. It's considered two generations beyond the F-15 or any other fighter in the world. We could fly 300 of them over Beijing, Moscow, or Ontario, and no one would know it until they hear the sonic booms as we fly away. It truly has no competition. And we won't be giving any of them to the Canadians anytime soon.

[evldave]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Don't forget Shania.

And Celene