New Platform for C/C and H3 in the works?

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One of the more common complaints about the GMT355-based trucks (Chevrolet Colorado, GMC Canyon, Hummer H3) is their lack of power. When the H3 debuted, there were rumblings of the 5.3L V8 being slid into its butched-to-the-max bodywork. Unfortunately, someone forgot to measure the transmission (they know how to measure a vehicle). It turns out the V8 with the 6-speed automatic will not fit, and that's the combo the General desires to offer in their smallest trucks (I would not say that is necessarily a true statement for SMALL TRUCKS). To accomplish that goal, the GMT-355 platform is reportedly going under the knife. No word whether it'll take a stage name when the surgery is over, or if the moniker will stay GMT355, but look for the revised platform under the reportedly forthcoming Hummer H4 (interesting concept ). Following soon after will be a new Colorado, which is said to look something like Colorado Crew Cab Z71 Plus SEMA concept pictured above. The overwhelmed 5-cylinder is also rumored to be taking a sidestep - giving the 6-cylinder Atlas a place to live. We can only hope the quality of the interior will come up as well. The current GMT-355 trucks aren't filled with materials comparable to the Tacoma, for instance, but the sticker wants to play in that realm. Rebates to the rescue, but our real hope is that the next Colorado is good enough to stand on its own


My comments on the article....

[XM DUDE]

I would agree the H3 absolutely needs more power, like 250 HP would be about right.

[Diabolus]

Does this mean that a bigger engine for 08 is off?

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Originally Posted by Diabolus

Does this mean that a bigger engine for 08 is off?

Who said it was on????

[RuggedH2]

300+ with 37" tires would be even better.

I love my H3, I sometimes miss my LS1 WS6/TA though.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by XM DUDE

I would agree the H3 absolutely needs more power, like 250 HP would be about right.

8 HP would not make that big of a difference....

[Diabolus]

I was kinda hoping the H3 would get a little more power in for 08. A Pathfinder with a 4.0L 270 hp V6 weighing almost the same as the H3 can get 16/23 mpg and is still pretty quick(0-60 in 7-8secs) for an SUV. The H3 obviously performs better off road and looks a hell of a lot better, but with those stats would be a dream. Keep on dreaming I guess....

[timgco]

THey should shoot for 300hp 285 ft/tq.

Keep the 33" tire size as standard with a car like tread for the lux and a more aggressive AT for the off road package. (get rid of the 32" tire).

Front locker option added to the off road package wold be nice too.

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by timgco

THey should shoot for 300hp 285 ft/tq.

Front locker option added to the off road package wold be nice too.

I'd love that set up. I'll put my own big tires on.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by Diabolus

I was kinda hoping the H3 would get a little more power in for 08. A Pathfinder with a 4.0L 270 hp V6 weighing almost the same as the H3 can get 16/23 mpg and is still pretty quick(0-60 in 7-8secs) for an SUV. The H3 obviously performs better off road and looks a hell of a lot better, but with those stats would be a dream. Keep on dreaming I guess....

Who said it wasn't getting a V8 in 2008?

I cannot say, at this time, yes or no. All I can say is wait about three months, and you will get the answer.

As for the original posting, I was just making note of the comment about a V8 and a six speed auto being what the General wants for their small trucks. I have reasonable doubt as to whether or not this statement is correct about that combo.

[The Green Lantern]

I'm just wondering if there will be a "GREEN" color when the H4 comes out. Like when the H2 and H3 first came out.

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Originally Posted by timgco

THey should shoot for 300hp 285 ft/tq.

Keep the 33" tire size as standard with a car like tread for the lux and a more aggressive AT for the off road package. (get rid of the 32" tire).

Front locker option added to the off road package wold be nice too.

How about somwhere in the range of 302 HP and 330 lbs of torque?

[RuggedH2]

A V8 would put the tree huggers into quite a little bitch fit. That right there alone will make it worth trading my baby in for.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by The Green Lantern

I'm just wondering if there will be a "GREEN" color when the H4 comes out. Like when the H2 and H3 first came out.

Now you are talking Marketing "talk," and there is no telling what colors they will come up with next. I would put in a good word for you, but I have blasted them for not allowing Sunset Orange to be across the board on all H3s, so I'm sure they only delete my emails.

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Originally Posted by 0313H3

A V8 would put the tree huggers into quite a little bitch fit. That right there alone will make it worth trading my baby in for.

But a V8 might actually obtain better mileage, and it might have the tree huggers faked out with E85 capability.

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

But a V8 might actually obtain better mileage, and it might have the tree huggers faked out with E85 capability.

I don't know about that F5. I have never seen so much hate for one vehicle nameplate in my life. It was one of the biggest reasons I became interested in buying a Hummer.

[The Green Lantern]

This forum is without F5! Thank's for all the info's.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by 0313H3

I don't know about that F5. I have never seem so much hate for one vehicle nameplate in my life. It was one of the biggest reasons I became interested in buying a Hummer.

The Hummer name does bring out a lot of hate, but equally so, a lot of curiosity. Sad to say, some of the hate comes from other people who drive off-road type vehicles such as Jeep, Toyota, etc., which get no better fuel mileage.

As for fuel mileage...look at the Escalade and the mileage it gets this year with a large engine? Active fuel management does increase highway miles.
On another note, IF, they release a V8 in 2008, the sticker will show less mileage than the current 3.7L, then again, the 2008 3.7L will show less mileage than the 2007 3.7L engine. The auto manufacturers have to go to the new rating system next year. That will shave about 12 percent off the current sticker fuel mileage figures. So, a 20 mpg rating now will be around 17-18 mpg next year.

[RuggedH2]

Originally Posted by The Green Lantern

This forum is without F5! Thank's for all the info's.

X2 It is good having an engineer here!

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

How about somwhere in the range of 302 HP and 330 lbs of torque?

on low profile street tires?