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Old 07-14-2006, 02:13 AM
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I've been working on a way to predict the off-road performance of a vehicle based on its specs, like approach angles, torque, gearing, weight, dimensions, etc.

Without getting into all the details, I came up with this ranking for extreme off-road performance. The models are either the current model or their last model year. They all have 4-lo except the Murano (which a friend was curious about).

I know you lose a lot when you don't take suspension and parts quality into account, but is the ranking basically in the ballpark?
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I know ... I have waaaaaay too much time on my hands
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bwahaahahahahahhahah

that has to be the most hilarious thing I've seen on here in a while
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no, I think the problem is that you have way too much dumb in your head
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for curiosities sake, what was the rating system?
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for curiosities sake, what was the rating system?
apparently, chicken feathers
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I've been working on a way to predict the off-road performance of a vehicle based on its specs, like approach angles, torque, gearing, weight, dimensions, etc.

LMAO!!!!

This thread reminds me of that time Alec's AE did a poll for "Best Elcova Offroader" Alec won that poll.

Thanks to the ***Cough***AE***Cough****Votes***Cough***.
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well, i hope you had fun with the project.

one thing you really have to do if attempting something like that is go measure some actual clearance. clearance spec's and clearance realities don't necessarily go hand-in-hand.

The Touareg is a prime-time example of that, as are toyotas. On the other side of the spectrum, the H3 has (on one i measured in the dealers lot just for kicks a couple months ago) nothing as close to the ground as 9.1", more like 9.5.
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Thanks for your feedback. Yeah, it's been fun and I've learned a lot.

For the record, this isn't about which SUV is the best. I'm trying to write a software application that will evaluate vehicle performance offroad, based on your own measured specs. The factory specs on HP, torque, wheel size, and such were just a place to start.

The software would display the benefits (or problems) of new gearing, extra weight or bigger tires and compare it to your original vehicle before you actually cut, weld or spend a dime. You can evaluate mods you've already made and compare them to stock specs. Or you can build completely custom rigs "virtually" and evaluate the specs before you pull the trigger.

I'll post some of my evaluation criteria at lunch.
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What is the H3 Advent 3700 and H3 Advent 3500???
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What is the H3 Advent 3700 and H3 Advent 3500???

oh yeah, it's the H3 Adventure package with 3.5L or 3.7L engine.
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... is the ranking basically in the ballpark?

Well, the superior position you have assigned to all of the Rubis over the H2 seems to conflict with my recollection of OldHiker:
1- lining up behind the Rubi on the Blue-3 rated trail at Paragon this April (it had been hopelessly stuck there for three hours);
2-- winching it out from behind over several obstacles it could not get over on its own (even with it's front and rear lockers); and then
3- driving right over the same obstacles with no problem.
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Well, the superior position you have assigned to all of the Rubis over the H2 seems to conflict with my recollection of OldHiker:
1- lining up behind the Rubi on the Blue-3 rated trail at Paragon this April (it had been hopelessly stuck there for three hours);
2-- winching it out from behind over several obstacles it could not get over on its own (even with it's front and rear lockers); and then
3- driving right over the same obstacles with no problem.

And nobody with a video camera?
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