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08-15-2007, 03:59 AM
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Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
Why doesnt GM make a Hummer h2 and h3 in hybrid form? They already have the technology with the tahoe hybrid and this along with the new 6 speeds and displacement on demand, would surely change the public eye of hummers.
The hummer hybrid would stop all the hummer haters and also seriously raise sales of the several year slump of the h2's.
Why not? Think about how many more hummers they would sell, the #1 reason people probably dont buy hummers is gas milage. Thats the first thing people think of when they hear hummer. Even getting 6 more mpg would be a 50% increase and that means buying 50% less gas.
Then throw in some good marketing and commercials and let the world know that hummer with 400 hp and hybrid technology and added horsepower from the electric motors could put it at 500 hp and is now one of the best SUVs for gas economy and make all the hummer haters eat their shyt!
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08-15-2007, 04:08 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
i bielve they wanted to do something like this, problem is hybrid the battery usualyl powers the vehicle to a certain speed something like that. in the article i read about them considering this was something a long the lines of Hummer is a vehicle made to have un surpassed offroad capabilty, if we did this then it would extremly hold back the ability to offroad. I dont remember if it was witht hem making a hybrid or an ethnol or something but thats what i read they saod
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08-15-2007, 04:19 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
Well if they give it the exact same engine as the 08 h2, and the 6 speed transmission but it just has the hybrid batteries in addition, it could run the engine on 4 cylinders alot of the time through displacement on demand plus the hybrid battery. They even could have a switch to turn off hybrid mode for offorading if needed.
Also since the escalade is the same engine pretty much offering it in this and they have another hybrid model, that all upscale people would go crazy over. Think of all the celebrities who driver prius which are nothing like all the other cars they drive, they drive it just for image.
Also to note, alot of times when a hybrid model comes out right away they sell for MSRP or over MSRP, sales could double, and be making more money per sale.
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08-15-2007, 05:05 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
You guys are missing something--you sound like a bunch of stingy H3ers. Hummers are about BIG, RAW POWER, and KICKIN AXX OFF ROAD and ON ROAD not saving gas and little green emblems.
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08-15-2007, 05:24 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
You guys should really get out more!
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08-20-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
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You guys should really get out more!
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You beat me to it! I have been looking for one of those Hybrid tags for my H2 just to see what reaction it would generate. I'm asked all the time how many miles to the gallon I get and I always just say around 20. The response always is "That's not too bad".
I wonder if a Hybrid H2 would have pulled the 36" diameter tree that fell across my creek? My neighbors all laughed at me when I said I was going to use my H2 to yank it out of there so I told them they made it personal! Needless to say I had an audiance and I got the job done!
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08-15-2007, 05:32 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
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You guys are missing something--you sound like a bunch of stingy H3ers. Hummers are about BIG, RAW POWER, and KICKIN AXX OFF ROAD and ON ROAD not saving gas and little green emblems.
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Yea but what if you still had that big raw power , still kicked ass off road, but also saved gas, and had even more horsepower with the addition of electric batteries.
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08-15-2007, 05:34 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
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Yea but what if you still had that big raw power , still kicked ass off road, but also saved gas, and had even more horsepower with the addition of electric batteries.
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Okay I guess I could accept that
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08-15-2007, 05:32 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
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Well if they give it the exact same engine as the 08 h2, and the 6 speed transmission but it just has the hybrid batteries in addition, it could run the engine on 4 cylinders alot of the time through displacement on demand plus the hybrid battery. They even could have a switch to turn off hybrid mode for offorading if needed.
Also since the escalade is the same engine pretty much offering it in this and they have another hybrid model, that all upscale people would go crazy over. Think of all the celebrities who driver prius which are nothing like all the other cars they drive, they drive it just for image.
Also to note, alot of times when a hybrid model comes out right away they sell for MSRP or over MSRP, sales could double, and be making more money per sale.
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it just doesnt pay for to do that, the price ot produce would be extremly high, and the price to but would be higher. Youd be paying way more for that, then you would to buy the regular one and just filling it with gas. and arent they coming with an option on the h2's for 09 for the ethnol stuff??? Im sure theres away around this one, but the engine of the H2 looks sooooo jam packed i dont see how they could fit batteries in there.
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08-15-2007, 05:38 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
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it just doesnt pay for to do that, the price ot produce would be extremly high, and the price to but would be higher. Youd be paying way more for that, then you would to buy the regular one and just filling it with gas. and arent they coming with an option on the h2's for 09 for the ethnol stuff???
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GM already makes the hybrid system for a big SUV the tahoe, they could use the exact same system and put it on the hummer and escalade. This wouldnt cost extremely alot, they already have the system.
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08-15-2007, 05:53 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
I would never drive a hybrid. I feel emasculated when the mpg gauge reads more than 12! Then I've got to step on it for awhile to get down to 11.8-11.9 or so. If the H2 became a hybrid, I'd have to do something like put a hole in the gas tank or put it in neutral at stops and rev to 6000rpm.
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08-15-2007, 03:00 PM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
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Originally Posted by pteam
Why doesnt GM make a Hummer h2 and h3 in hybrid form? They already have the technology with the tahoe hybrid and this along with the new 6 speeds and displacement on demand, would surely change the public eye of hummers.
The hummer hybrid would stop all the hummer haters and also seriously raise sales of the several year slump of the h2's.
Why not? Think about how many more hummers they would sell, the #1 reason people probably dont buy hummers is gas milage. Thats the first thing people think of when they hear hummer. Even getting 6 more mpg would be a 50% increase and that means buying 50% less gas.
Then throw in some good marketing and commercials and let the world know that hummer with 400 hp and hybrid technology and added horsepower from the electric motors could put it at 500 hp and is now one of the best SUVs for gas economy and make all the hummer haters eat their shyt!
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The short answer is, it’s been looked at and it won’t work for the H2 with out making it into something else. Any car design is a series of compromises that in most cases mean to be very good in one area you must give up something some where else. To improve fuel economy, even with a hybrid drive, you also need to reduce weight, improve aero, and reduce rolling resistance. The Tahoe hybrid has had a lot of changes from the standard Tahoe (aluminum hood and hatch, narrower and harder compound tires, ect…) that are needed to make the Hybrid drive see gains big enough to notice.
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08-15-2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
Unless the H2 in question is for mainly city driving, it'd be a waste of time. The Sierra Hybrid only gets a couple of more mpg. Better to install the new 4.5L Duramax that's planned for '09 with the 6speed transmission. Hybrid's overhyped.
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
I have to agree with Huck on this one.
I think a cleaner, more efficient deisel would be a better answer.
I do think the idea of a better mpg HUMMER is a great idea, BUT, the H2 is a pig! THey would have to put this truck on a major diet and that would jack up the price quite a bit. I don't think it's a matter of just using Tahoe/ Sierra Hybrid parts. The weight and full time 4wd is also a huge factor.
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08-15-2007, 04:17 PM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
You guys are a bunch of dumbasses. EVERYONE (with half-a-brain) knows that the reason car makers aren't doing more in the way of energy-saving vehicles is because they are being manipulated by the big, evil, money-grubbing oil companies. Wake up and smell the corruption already!!!
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08-15-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
heard they are doing a corvette hybird first,than the H2 if there still in biz .
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08-16-2007, 03:21 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
If you want to make the H2 "greener", offer it in a diesel configuration that would give the users the option to filter waste cooking oil to fuel it. Lots of websites tout using two large coffee filters to clean cooking oil, even Mythbusters tried it on a Mercedes with good results.
Otherwise- leave it alone!
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08-16-2007, 03:28 AM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
truth be told bielve me i would LOVE to pay wayyyyyyy less for the gas, but theres no corruption in it. Its buisness, everyones gotta make money somehow, and when its a "necessity" they can make more money of it.
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08-16-2007, 07:04 PM
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
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The hummer hybrid would stop all the hummer haters and also seriously raise sales of the several year slump of the h2's.
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Just put a hybrid badge on the one you have already. The Toyota Highlander one fits perfect underneath the 'H2' on the door. When someone mentions that they didn't know Hummer made a hybrid, tell then "Yeah it's new. It gets 26 mpg on the highway and 20 around town."
You can see them trying to process that in their feeble brains as they are walking away trying to think of some other reason to still hate Hummers.
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Re: Why doesnt Hummer make a hybrid?
yup
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