whats a better offroader......

[evomind2]

what do u folks think is a better offroader, an h1 with front and rear lockers, or an h2 with a fabtech 6" lift and appropriate upgrades and gearing?
and why?
thanks folks!

[H1izmabyatch]

An H2 is an ugly, overweight behemoth. No Hummer vehicle can be considered an "offroad vehicle". They are too big to be agile on the trails, they can't fit on any trail narrower than a 3 lane highway, and they're way too heavy not to sink in mud. I admit, the H3 is a step in the right direction, but it's so underpowered that to climb trhe slightest incline you have to kill the AC. You guys need to stop kidding yourselves. I've seen a whole line of H2's at Paragon with magnetic "body armor" taped on with sticky tape to protect the finish. What a bunch of pansies! "Hummer offroad vehicle"? Oxymoron ... emphasis on moron. Nuff said.

[evomind2]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

An H2 is an ugly, overweight behemoth. No Hummer vehicle can be considered an "offroad vehicle". They are too big to be agile on the trails, they can't fit on any trail narrower than a 3 lane highway, and they're way too heavy not to sink in mud. I admit, the H3 is a step in the right direction, but it's so underpowered that to climb trhe slightest incline you have to kill the AC. You guys need to stop kidding yourselves. I've seen a whole line of H2's at Paragon with magnetic "body armor" taped on with sticky tape to protect the finish. What a bunch of pansies! "Hummer offroad vehicle"? Oxymoron ... emphasis on moron. Nuff said.

hmmmmm.......
ok, an offtopic post.
ill agree theyre too wide for some of the trails that were carved out by little jeeps once upon a time...
despite all that info, u still didnt answer the question though...

[BlueHUMMERH2]

The H1.

Why? I'd say because there are no modifications in there to go bad. Everything is stock (well, on a 2004 for what you're saying) so issues that stem from lifts are not really coming into play. You know, alignment, etc. The H1 is still the ultimate. The H2 certainly is probably the next best. But I'd say H1>H2 if you're looking for off-roadability, minus creature comforts, etc...

[DR EVIL]

Originally Posted by BlueHUMMERH2

The H1.

Why? I'd say because there are no modifications in there to go bad. Everything is stock (well, on a 2004 for what you're saying) so issues that stem from lifts are not really coming into play. You know, alignment, etc. The H1 is still the ultimate. The H2 certainly is probably the next best. But I'd say H1>H2 if you're looking for off-roadability, minus creature comforts, etc...

The Pavement Princess has Spoken!

[Arizona Hummerboy]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

An H2 is an ugly, overweight behemoth. No Hummer vehicle can be considered an "offroad vehicle". They are too big to be agile on the trails, they can't fit on any trail narrower than a 3 lane highway, and they're way too heavy not to sink in mud. I admit, the H3 is a step in the right direction, but it's so underpowered that to climb trhe slightest incline you have to kill the AC. You guys need to stop kidding yourselves. I've seen a whole line of H2's at Paragon with magnetic "body armor" taped on with sticky tape to protect the finish. What a bunch of pansies! "Hummer offroad vehicle"? Oxymoron ... emphasis on moron. Nuff said.

You sound like a person that wants a Hummer so so Bad, but will nevery be able to have one in your life. It must suck to be you.

[Vettster]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

An H2 is an ugly, overweight behemoth. No Hummer vehicle can be considered an "offroad vehicle". They are too big to be agile on the trails, they can't fit on any trail narrower than a 3 lane highway, and they're way too heavy not to sink in mud. I admit, the H3 is a step in the right direction, but it's so underpowered that to climb trhe slightest incline you have to kill the AC. You guys need to stop kidding yourselves. I've seen a whole line of H2's at Paragon with magnetic "body armor" taped on with sticky tape to protect the finish. What a bunch of pansies! "Hummer offroad vehicle"? Oxymoron ... emphasis on moron. Nuff said.

Yeah! I remember when I couldn't afford one too.

[H1izmabyatch]

Ha. I don't dislike the looks of the H3 ... to an extent. It looks enough like my Jeep not to be as offensively ugly as the H2. And all hail the mean visage of the H1. I do like the way it looks as well. The H2 is an abomination. (BTW, did you know that the H2 made the "ugliest car" list ... right up there with the Pontiac Aztec! Woo hoo.) But I honestly don't crave a Hummer - of any model. I like the size, agility, capability, ruggedness, reliability, legendary proven off-road qualities of my Jeep. It's affordable to purchase and maintain, enough so that I can afford to have 3 vehicles ... one of which is the fastest "SUV" in the world. I can't see putting all my eggs in one Hummer basket, but I can afford one. And after I had the pleasure of rescuing an H1 with my barely built Cherokee at Paragon Adventure Park, I know that the Hummer's abilities as an "offroad vehicle" is laughable. Hence it is impossible for me to answer the question posed. I don't think ANY Hummer is worthy of the "offroad" moniker. Oh they do make it on some mild trails, but the really tough stuff belongs to Jeep - and you all know it.

You guys always resort to the lame you-can't-afford-one song & dance because it's your only claim to fame. Sticker price is the only area in which you can claim a #1 position, and the offensive ugliness is second only to the Aztec.

[f5fstop]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

Ha. I don't dislike the looks of the H3 ... to an extent. It looks enough like my Jeep not to be as offensively ugly as the H2. And all hail the mean visage of the H1. I do like the way it looks as well. The H2 is an abomination. (BTW, did you know that the H2 made the "ugliest car" list ... right up there with the Pontiac Aztec! Woo hoo.) But I honestly don't crave a Hummer - of any model. I like the size, agility, capability, ruggedness, reliability, legendary proven off-road qualities of my Jeep. It's affordable to purchase and maintain, enough so that I can afford to have 3 vehicles ... one of which is the fastest "SUV" in the world. I can't see putting all my eggs in one Hummer basket, but I can afford one. And after I had the pleasure of rescuing an H1 with my barely built Cherokee at Paragon Adventure Park, I know that the Hummer's abilities as an "offroad vehicle" is laughable. Hence it is impossible for me to answer the question posed. I don't think ANY Hummer is worthy of the "offroad" moniker. Oh they do make it on some mild trails, but the really tough stuff belongs to Jeep - and you all know it.

You guys always resort to the lame you-can't-afford-one song & dance because it's your only claim to fame. Sticker price is the only area in which you can claim a #1 position, and the offensive ugliness is second only to the Aztec.

Another lame AE, or just another A$$hole kid with nothing bettter to do?

By the way, since it appears you have never driven an H3 up a steep incline, let me say, the A/C does not have to be off...from experience, not from surfing your matchbox cars' websites.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by f5fstop

just another A$$hole kid with nothing bettter to do?

Ding ding ding

[GLBLWARMR]

[quote=f5fstop] just another A$$hole kid with nothing bettter to do?[quote]

How'd you guess??

[GLBLWARMR]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

I like going around from forum to forum and spouting off about things just to pick a fight. I sometimes know what I am talking about but most of the time I am talking out my arse just like what I have done with my two posts here. I would like to get into some debates about the differences between Hummers and Jeeps but I only know how to spout off with things that other people have said. Formulating my own thoughts and opinions has never come easy for me so I apologize for that. Could someone please help me find the door??

Again what he meant to say was

[H1izmabyatch]

Originally Posted by PhilD

But in stock form it is generally not as capable as the H2 on the trail, so your logic kind of falls down, if you are basing your choice on off-road ability, as you seem to be.

I speak only of the appearance of the H3. IMHO that is the only positive thing it has going for it.

So you think the Trail Rated Liberty is an off-road vehicle?

Sadly, the Liberty wears the Jeep badge, much to my embarrassment. I concur.

... most buy a Hummer for all round ability ...

What are you, kidding me? All-round at WHAT? Taking up entire lanes of traffic? Bringing tears to the eyes of every "Tread Lightly" supporter? Gouging huge holes in the pockets of every owner? Oh wait ... maybe at transporting that rare American family with 8 kids and a dog, but still sadly unable to park in the supermarket's alloted space when they go food shopping, because the damn things are just too big? Or maybe all-round at attracting every gas guzzler tax available on our fair earth. And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the design team, instead of coming up with an original facade, had to COPY the well known Jeep grill in a lame attempt to snatch comparisons and turn heads.

You came to a Hummer forum and spouted the usual Hummers are crap line that we've all heard a 1000 times ...

Maybe so, but how often do you hear it from someone who actually outwheeled the Hummer top-of-the-line in a vehicle that cost 1/10 of its price, AND had to rescue the whale to boot? You've heard it 1000 times because the truth never gets old.

[h2co-pilot]

Originally Posted by H1izmabyatch

What are you, kidding me? All-round at WHAT? Taking up entire lanes of traffic? Bringing tears to the eyes of every "Tread Lightly" supporter? Gouging huge holes in the pockets of every owner? Oh wait ... maybe at transporting that rare American family with 8 kids and a dog, but still sadly unable to park in the supermarket's alloted space when they go food shopping, because the damn things are just too big? Or maybe all-round at attracting every gas guzzler tax available on our fair earth. And I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the design team, instead of coming up with an original facade, had to COPY the well known Jeep grill in a lame attempt to snatch comparisons and turn heads.

Go over to an Excursion or Dodge forum ween breath.

Just because you are pissy from your busy morning McDonalds breakfast shift doesn't mean you get any slack. Do your research and salt my fuggin fries right.

You don't like us because we are a sweet factory ready, expensive, pussy getting, comfy, pimpin, roomier than your mom's box, off and on road Enigma.

[GLBLWARMR]

Originally Posted by [B

IAMABYATCH[/b]An H2 is desirable, properly sized four wheel off road vehicle for friends and family alike. All Hummer vehicles can be considered an "exceptional offroad vehicle". They are agile on the trails, they can fit on any trails of course NOT to narrow of ones through, and their fording capability is unbeatable. I really love the H3 becuase I am a little girly and cannot handle the H1 or H2. The power to weight ratio is perfect in the H3 and it has no problem climbing hills. You guys need to stop kidding yourselves, I do live in San Francisco and am a pole licker. I've seen a whole line of H2's at Paragon with magnetic "body armor" taped on with sticky tape to protect the finish. What a bunch of smart fvckers you are! "Hummer offroad vehicle"?No question about it. However, I do apologize for being a moron ... emphasis on moron. Nuff said.

What he meant to say