Front differential specs?

[Alan06SUT]

Is it true than our stock front diff is a dana 60 unit? I kind of doubt it but someone told me that. If not who makes it and how big is the ring gear in there? Is it a 3/4 ton unit or a one ton? I tried search, all i got was stuff about adding front lockers. Also what gear ratios are availaible or are all h2's the same ratio?

[Hummie2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Rear is definitely 1.876" 30 spline, my size chart shows the front as 1.438" 30 spline, but that maybe wrong as that is the same size as the 8.875" RG pinion.
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My info. shows same for front and rear Phil. 00457108 P/G inner; 09417781 P/G outer; 11505123 Brg, Diff 2ea. However it does list different yoke kits: 12479139 rear; 12479137 front.

[PARAGON]

Now that you say that, seems like I remember people trying to find/wanting 4wd duallys that had the 9.25" instead of the 8.5" but I'm not sure which was prevalent.

[Hummie2]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:


As a side note some Rockwell 2 1/2 top loaders would be much better </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yeah, Iv'e been daydreaming about some high pinion dana 60s.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
As a side note some Rockwell 2 1/2 top loaders would be much better </div></BLOCKQUOTE>with planetary gear hubs at each end

[instructor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
I believe it is GM, I think AAM make a 9.25" that goes in the the Dodge 2500/3500. The GM bversion has been used in the K2500/3500 since '88.

The 9.5" 14 bolt rear's been used in all sorts of things since '81, C10 - C35 , K10 - K35, 3/4-1 ton, etc. It is the mainstay 3/4-1 ton rear end. Not sure what (if anything) still uses the 10.5", which has been around since '73. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

GM uses a 11.5 AAM in the 2500-3500 Duramax trucks, so does Dodge with the Cummins. If you get a Dodge gasser you get a AAM 10.5". If you get a GM gasser you get a 9.5".

[instructor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by instructor:
GM parts bin 2500 or 3500 chevy truck front IFS that has a 8.25" ring gear. And yes, all the H2's to '06 are 4.10's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Sorry, but the H2 employs a 9.25" 12 bolt ring mated to a 1.876" diameter 30 spline pinion

The rear is a 9.5" 12 bolt ring utilizing the same pinion, I think.

To my knowledge, no other GM vehicles uses the 9.25" with an IFS. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Oops, that 8.25 is for the 6 lug GM stuff. The 9.25" IFS has been the same since GM changed from a solid axle up front in the 2500-3500 trucks.

[PARAGON]

Seems like a Dana 60 is like a 9.75" 12 bolt ring and, of course, only in solid axle form.

[It\'s a Dry Heat]

When I ordered my front locking dif from Eaton I ordered one ton suburban front dif.

[Alan06SUT]

Yeah he said it was "the dana 60 IFS differential". I called him out as BS ing but, I didnt know what we really do have.

[PARAGON]

8.25" was used all the way up to 3500 one ton duallys up to a few years ago that I know of, they may still stick them in some versions.

[Alan06SUT]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
I believe it is GM, I think AAM make a 9.25" that goes in the the Dodge 2500/3500. The GM bversion has been used in the K2500/3500 since '88.

The 9.5" 14 bolt rear's been used in all sorts of things since '81, C10 - C35 , K10 - K35, 3/4-1 ton, etc. It is the mainstay 3/4-1 ton rear end. Not sure what (if anything) still uses the 10.5", which has been around since '73. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unless I'm drunk and delusional, my rear diff has AAM stamped on the casing and lokks beefy as hell. Are you sure they dont make our rears?

[Alan06SUT]

So my 95 tahoe 2 door probably had the smaller GM ifs (8.875). I know it had a ten bolt rear. Its just nice to see the beef under the Hummer. It makes me feel like I'm getting good value. At least we get some metal for 60K. Is the T-case made my NP (New Process I think) like all of the ones in the old blazers and tahoes NP-203, NP-205, NP-241, etc??

[Alan06SUT]

Is it true than our stock front diff is a dana 60 unit? I kind of doubt it but someone told me that. If not who makes it and how big is the ring gear in there? Is it a 3/4 ton unit or a one ton? I tried search, all i got was stuff about adding front lockers. Also what gear ratios are availaible or are all h2's the same ratio?

[instructor]

GM parts bin 2500 or 3500 chevy truck front IFS that has a 8.25" ring gear. And yes, all the H2's to '06 are 4.10's.

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by instructor:
GM parts bin 2500 or 3500 chevy truck front IFS that has a 8.25" ring gear. And yes, all the H2's to '06 are 4.10's. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Sorry, but the H2 employs a 9.25" 12 bolt ring mated to a 1.876" diameter 30 spline pinion

The rear is a 9.5" 12 bolt ring utilizing the same pinion, I think.

To my knowledge, no other GM vehicles uses the 9.25" with an IFS.

[Easy Ed]

http://aam.mediaroom.com/index.php?s...eases&item=399


This is about the H3 http://aam.mediaroom.com/index.php?s...eases&item=499



This is from the first link.....

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[instructor]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
I believe it is GM, I think AAM make a 9.25" that goes in the the Dodge 2500/3500. The GM bversion has been used in the K2500/3500 since '88.

The 9.5" 14 bolt rear's been used in all sorts of things since '81, C10 - C35 , K10 - K35, 3/4-1 ton, etc. It is the mainstay 3/4-1 ton rear end. Not sure what (if anything) still uses the 10.5", which has been around since '73. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Unless I'm drunk and delusional, my rear diff has AAM stamped on the casing and lokks beefy as hell. Are you sure they dont make our rears? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The rear is an AAM 9.5" ring gear Metric 14 bolt, at least thats what AAM calls it.

[Alan06SUT]

Who makes the front 9.25" diff? AAM like the rear or somebody else? And is the rear the same as those in 2500/3500 except for the eaton e locker?