Magna Charger Installed

[Fubar]

Here are the pics of the Magana Charger and electric fans that were just installed on my H2.
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[Fubar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fubar00:
Your least favorite place, Towbin.
They have had there entire staff changed out and they seam to have a new helpful, what can we do to help or what can we do to earn your business attitude. Both sales and Service have seen there entire staff changed out. Amazingly they offered one extra year on top of the one offered by Magna Charger to take effect or go into effect once the Magna Charger one has expired. So I guess I'm getting a 4yr warranty. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jonahs,
I may have you confused with someone else who had some pretty bad dealings with Towbin. If this is the case (Sorry)

[Fubar]

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Here are the pics of the Magana Charger and electric fans that were just installed on my H2.
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[Fubar]

Absolutely no problems with the SC.

A small leak problem with one of the inner cooler hoses (located in back of the front grill) One of the house connections would not seal up correctly and would drip fluid but it was only a problem after driving hard for a while. The dealer ship fixed the problem and it has been trouble free ever since.

Love the performance. The H2 just needs a bit of help to get out of its own way some times. I am not a racer and did not install the SC for racing. I installed it or had it installed to help with daily drivability. Especially going up mountain passes the truck would constantly shift into a lower gear and then back into over drive. It was a problem just trying to maintain the legal speed limit going up the hill. After instilling the SC no problems at all. I have plenty of power to pass if needed and plenty of throttle left for whatever may come to my feeble mind.

I also had a problem with the electric fans. Here in Vegas during the summer it gets HOT. Nothing new there. But the fans would shut off or stop running which was causing an over heating issue. The problem: The dealership installed the control module for the fans next to or adjacent to the headers just below the fuse box. While they will not admit to doing anything wrong the instructions that came with the fans point to an installation point up next to the fans themselves. I believe that the control module for the fans being mounted close to a heat source was causing the module or something inside it to let loose. The dealership has replaced the module twice and still refuses to take my advice of relocating the module even after showing them the install instructions. Once the warranty is over I will re-locate the module myself. If they wish to continue to replace the thing at there cost that is up to them. The temps here in LV have lessened in the last week and I've had not trouble with the fans. It has been in the 90's. When it gets up over 100-115 they seam to have trouble. I should say that it is not the fans that have trouble but the control module staying functional. The fans do a great job of cooling when they are allowed to run. As a test I had a mechanic friend bypass the thermostat that controls the point where the fans turn on and just make it so that the fans were running when the motor was on and guess what no cooling or shutting down trouble at all. This test was done when it the ambient temps were in the suspect target range. As I said above the temps here in town are getting cooler at least this past week. They may bo back up as we are not out of summer yet.

I guess my point to all of that is if you have someone or a dealership install the fans just make sure they follow the install instructions. Also in other parts of the country where the temps do not reach 105-115 it may not be a problem at all regardless of where the controll module is located.

I was told that the electric fans were needed because the motor would be producing additional heat due to the Sc and the headers. I don't know if they just saw a gullible person coming or if it is actually true. The motor does sound quieter under acceleration without the stock fan in my opinion.

The electric fan addition allows the motor to produce around 30 extra hp. or so I'm told.

You will enjoy the Sc if you decide to go that way. Even without the elct fans. Next summer before my warranty expires I may have the dealership replace the stock fan if I am still having trouble.

As a side note I went to Moab the week after the install and ran around all day on the trails for a week with the AC running and had absolutely no troubles at all. The air temp never got above 90 while I was in Moab and that may have been the major reason for my successful trip.

Hope this helps.

[Fubar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fubar00:
Here are the pics of the Magana Charger and electric fans that were just installed on my H2.
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[H2_SUT_SC]

Awesome! I can't wait to get mine installed.

Question - is the Corsa "Touring" the louder exhaust or the quieter one? How is the engine/exhaust sound (dB level) with the headers, SC and exhaust compare to stock?

[KenP]

You can use GM fans for the 2500. They're dual electric and also have an outer ring attaching all the blades together. It makes for a more sturdy fan body, then the Flex-a-Lite.

This is a pic of my experience after hitting water with the Flex-a-Lite. The right one shredded.

[Fubar]

The "Touring" is the quieter of the two offered by Corsa. Here is the link if you want to hear the difference.
Corsa Performance

In case the link doesn't work just do a search on Google for Corsa Exhaust. or go to corsaperf.com and follow the links.

engine/Exhaust sound; at idle you would not know that anything has been done to the rig. Perhaps a bit lower rumble but nothing you can hear inside the cabin. The SC is completly quiet at idle. Put your foot into it and just watch heads turn as you scream down the street. Just be careful and watch for cops. They'll hear you coming before the radar picks you up. The SC has a distinct sound when under acceleration.

If you do much hwy driving you will happy to know that any resonates inside the cab from the exhaust are pretty much undetectable. It is as quiet as stock was except under acceleration then you know even in the cab with the windows rolled up that you've done something to the engine.

[Timster]

Very cool.
I'm Drooling!

[Xenowulf]

Ken
I have a 05 SUT and I'd like to install an electric fan. You said "You can use GM fans for the 2500". How about the fan shroud? Is that from a GM 2500 or are you using the Flex-A-Lite.


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You can use GM fans for the 2500. They're dual electric and also have an outer ring attaching all the blades together. It makes for a more sturdy fan body, then the Flex-a-Lite.

This is a pic of my experience after hitting water with the Flex-a-Lite. The right one shredded. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[timgco]

NICE!!!!!!!!!

Can't wait to go for a ride.

[Fubar]

agreed take the engine threw its normal break in period before adding the SC.

As for hp and torque. I have 500-hp at the block and I believe the toque was 625. Those numbers provided by the LAPD's 4x4 dyno (Los Angeles Performance Division) in Chatsworth Ca.

[Fubar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Fubar00:
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Here are the pics of the Magana Charger and electric fans that were just installed on my H2.
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[HGW]

I guess some on here are sour on Towbin--not sure--try to stay clear of all the negativity on here and the bashing stuff--too busy for bull**** and nonsense in my life.

Anyway, I had one of my H2s in Vegas as a pace car---my fuel pump was going bad while on the track---dropped it off at 3AM on a Friday night (Saturday AM). The service manager's call woke me up in the AM. The replaced the fuel pump already, no charge and later did a computer reflash that I requested. The tech knew he stuff because I do it all the time and watched him do it.

The H2 was off to the next race in no time. Considering I was 2500 miles from home and brought in a vehicle that sees the track two-three times a week, they could have easily busted my balls or ripped me off--they did neither. I was glad they helped me out of a jam. I could go on and have fun with my girlfriend in Vegas.

I will see them again when the World of Outlaws returns in the fall.

[Fubar]

Very funny... You got me.

That water crossing was probably the most fun aspect of the Kayne Creek Trail.

We just happen to be in Moab during there rainy month. Any other time of the year that creek would have been dry.

Places around here in Vegas looked like that last week when we got 4 inches of rain in two days which is almost our yearly alotment..

I stand corrected.

So I guess I'll go have the cut off switch for the fans installed. Actually the switch is there from when the flex-a-lites were in place. I'll have to call Allen at Nelson Performance and ask what I need to do or where I need to tie into to be able to switch off the new fans which are from the HD2500 GM p/u truck and are tied into the pcm of the truck. I know the switch is not functional currently. On the plus side for the fans they handled this water crossing with no trouble. Nothing broke, bent or otherwise failed.

[Sportsdude]

Thank you for the information. The magnacharger is on my wish list and can't wait to get it but have to get HID lights first.

[H2_SUT_SC]

Very informative info thanks a ton.

How necessary do you deem the headers in the equation? My dealer does the exhaust (magna), corsa exhaust, volant intake but doesn't install headers. Says there's too many problems involved.

Also, did the electric fans help your AC? I heard they do.

[H24U]

Thanks for the info.

[Fubar]

most dealers carry them or they can get them. I'm not sure where my dealer picked the one I have up at.

[Fubar]

H24U
Posted 08-11-05 06:59 PM
What flexalite fans model number did use?
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I don't know the exact model that the dealer ordered but looking at the flex-a-lite site it looks like it's the Monster Fan 290. And from what I see on under there dyno facts is that the fans allow a gain of 17hp not the 30hp that the dealer pitched. Doesn't matter really the fans do a great job of cooling the engine so long as they are functional.