Rust Issue

[Duramax Diesel for H2]

Anyone have any updates on the rust issue and what the cause of it is?

[mbdougl]

Mine rusted pretty badly and I took care of it with a couple of cans of black spray paint. You think I would be used to it by now because I have owned several GM products that did the same thing, you just notice it more on the H2 because it sits higher. I don't believe it is a warranty issue as much it is a factory policy not to paint certain parts. Look at the driveshafts on most GM trucks, they are all rusty because they aren't painted from the factory. I guess GM feels like it is up to each owner if they want to do something about it.

[LasVegas]

That's a great looking cleanup job on the rust! Let us know how it holds up. I think it's the luck of the draw. I have a mid-year '03 and never had a problem until my cd changer quite a month ago. Knock-Knock-Knock on wood. Hell, POUND on wood. I've had a couple "glitches" like losing the driver setting and the seat lumbar quiting for two days but it sorted itself out. Go figure??

[kacyk]

I called my service managr this morning and he said that as long as there were no significant sign of off-road use, he would take care of it. Wow! But then, Bellevue Hummer has always taken care of any issue for me under warranty.

[devilsfan]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by JamesT:
Even with the extensive off roading and rough terrain I subject my truck too, I have no signs of rust. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you actually have to come in CONTACT with the water to promote rust.

Stacy

[Fubar]

PhilD,devilsfan,& lasvegas Thank you guys for the response. I purchased my H2 from Acron Ohio and drove it back to Las Vegas. It had 3000 miles on it at the time of purchase and I can only assume that some of that driving was done on the winter salted roads of Ohio. Phil under my H2 looks like yours did before you painted. Great job by the way. I think I will try some paint since (Tobin Hummer) my local dealer and frankly the only dealer in Southern Nv are being such asses about the issue. I didn't ask to have it covered by warranty I simply asked to have them take care of the issue and I got attitude back from them and a refusual to do anything. I better not start on my bitch list about Tobin needless to say I'm very unhappy with the manner I have been treated with this issue and several others.

Thanks again guys for your feedback regarding rust and Ziebart.

[devilsfan]

It has zero to do with rain and humidity. Most of the rust problems come off the lot, not develop over time.

There was a thread a while back that offered a lot of alternatives over Ziebart, including quite a few that you could do at home. I know a lot of people tried these techniques over a year ago, and seem to be holding up fine. Do a site search for "rust" and you should come up with tons of threads on this.

Stacy

[LasVegas]

Well Fubar00 you know we do live in Vegas i.e. 4" annual rainfall (except this year) and 15% humidity and sunshine 305 days a year so I doubt Ziebart would do much business. There's several posts about rust behind the dash and when I put my Nav in a couple weeks ago not one speck of rust! As long as I live here it's not a concern. But I would think they might a store in Utah or maybe Phoenix.

[Fubar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hart:
Try Por 15. It really worked on my Pinzgauer 4x4.

""Since POR-15 actually bonds to metal, the underlying surface does not have to be sanded before application. As long as loose and flaking rust are removed from the surface, an application of POR-15 will not only cover up the rust and prevent it from spreading, but will also strengthen the underlying metal and seal holes by forming its own membrane."" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks for the heads up regarding POR-15 I will look into it and see if I can find a paint shop or someone to apply it to the under side of my H2.

Also Welcome to the forum and assuming you've made your purchase of an H2 enjoy.

[Fubar]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by West Point H2:
I have a three week old white adventure series.
I opted to not get the dealer undercoating because of the reputation that they often do a "spray can" type job. I started noticing some trace rust around the rear differential etc. I took my H2 to the local Ziebart rust proofing center and had it and paint protectant done. The rep told me that the factory puts a thin wax coat on the frame and undercarriage that wears off in short order. Ziebart chemically cleans and removes all residue from the undercarriage, and then applies several coats of rust protectant. They did an excellent job, guaranteed for 5 years... looks similar to Phil's picture upon completion... the cost - $199. The diamond coat paint protectant is well worth the $ as well... no waxing for 5 years, or so they say. It is very easy to remove dirt though, everything, and I mean everything rinses off completely at the car wash. Reading these horror stories about rust made me want to be as proactive as I can. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Funny with 500 stores around the world you'd think they'd have one in or near one of the largest cities in the world (Los Angeles) No of course not. I kind of figured there would be nothing in Nevada. Anyon know the closest state to NV or Ca that has a Ziebart store? I guess I could keep puting in states into there store locator and see what comes up. (ziebart.com)

from there site:
Ziebart and its franchise owners operate almost 500 stores in 42 countries around the world. To find the store nearest you, simply:

[kacyk]

I am just a day away from buying another H2. It's an '03 with 14K miles. I crawled under it to see if it's been off road. No signs of off road use but there was a lot of rust. Will Ziebart halp at this point? Also, is any of this (e.g. rusted bolts) covered under warranty? Has the rust caused any safety issues for you? I live in Seattle and this is a AZ car! Ironically, my Seattle H2 didn't show sign of rust, at least not like this one.

Try Por 15. It really worked on my Pinzgauer 4x4.

""Since POR-15 actually bonds to metal, the underlying surface does not have to be sanded before application. As long as loose and flaking rust are removed from the surface, an application of POR-15 will not only cover up the rust and prevent it from spreading, but will also strengthen the underlying metal and seal holes by forming its own membrane.""

[JamesT]

Even with the extensive off roading and rough terrain I subject my truck too, I have no signs of rust.

[LasVegas]

Fubar00 - check your PM

[Duramax Diesel for H2]

Man it's said that you pay 50,000 plus for a vehicle and get treated that way. Guess Dealers know they have leverage and they know how to use it to screw the customer after they have got your money in their hand.

Perhaps this might help…….
I had 2002 H2 with 11,000 miles on it.
When I got “tired” of issues I tried trading it for new H2.
Dealer offered $32,500 for mine, we settled at 34k.
And one of the arguments dealer used was …. Take a deep breath…. Unpopular vehicle with issues.
Next to rather long list of repairs and few beyond repair things, with that altitude I just went to MB.
Got myself G500 and got 37k for my H2.
I still love H2, don’t understand me wrong way, it’s just that I don’t like being showed around.
I had rust spread all over the undercarriage and I took care of it. Removed it, primer+paint+marine type inhibitor.
Did good. Than I found rust under the carpet behind rear seats, cargo space. Huge rust spots!?!?!?
Tried cleaning it just to discover that one, next to the RR wheel well was “see-through” spot.
Similar on driver door. Bottom inside with heavy rust.
I agree, it’s the first run and small glitches are to be expected.
I just didn’t want to end up with rusted H2 even before warranty expires. Yes, this is Chicago, land of road salt, but still....

[Dan]

Wow, I think thats our first H2 loss here!

Not counting the crashers of course

- Dan

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SUT on order - 16 months to go!
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[HummerGirl]

HA HA...i'll be looking for your raft to show up on the "sea wall". We live on a river but everyone calls them a sea wall?? GO figure...

anyway...I know what you mean about looking crappy underneath. My husbands cheap ass (27K) explorer sport trac has ZERO rust on it. I MEAN ZERO!!!!

aggrivating...........

~amy

White 2003 H2
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[Duramax Diesel for H2]

True, but GM should have thought about it a bit more on the H2, as the whole rear drivetrain is clearly visible. Or maybe they wanted people to see loads of rust under a H2...[/quote] Well Once GM has your money they could care less they just hope that everything last until the warranty runs out. That's when the vehicle will usually crap out.

I hated that rust thing as well, just kept showing up on rather ridiculous places.
And I’m sorry to inform you good people, but my H2 is gone.
Just got tired of all the “little” bugs and failures.
Have fun you all.