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Hey gang can someone help Me to come up with a HUD display that I can convert to the H2. I thought knowing the group We have someone that would Love to take on this challenge with Me. Maybe someone knows someone that is doing this already. I have talked to one guy who is working on taking the HUD that was used in Vettes and seeing if it would work on H2.
Any advice or direction of who to talk will be greatfully appreciated.
I know We deffinetly have some electronic genius
on this forum so I was guessing somebody already knows about how to do this.
If some one has access to the Vette HUD and would like to work with Me on converting it Please Let Me know. I know the Vette's was designed to mount into dash top sort of hidden and that is the way I would like to do it.

Is there room to cut hole in dash over the area of speedo to install one out of site?
Thanks very much for any help

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RLTAZH2:
BLOWNZ06 is trying very hard to make it a seamless install. He has several ideas. We are or He is going to disamantle the dash to see which will be the best way to mount it. fortunately Z06 is an engineer for a large plastic injection molding company and travels allot. We do now think We have the last of the parts. Waiting on Him to get with Me. He is trying to see what it would take to remove the panel right over the gauge cluster and do a mold to fit HUD in and reinstall with same texture and colors in what ever H2 it goes in. If a mold will not help then i will have My glass guys work on a mounting system that will look good but, it will look customized. Not off the wall but, like no one else got one like it type deal. Z06 is very sharp and expect Him to have something. It will most likely He and i working together to build and sell them as low as We can so all Hummer Buds can have it if they want. He is the brains and I'm the banker type thing. The main cost probably He and I see is a regular supply of the Vette HUD's at consistant price, He is working on that also. I had looked everywhere for one and had one located about to buy when Z06 PM'd Me and said hold up and He beat My price by over $200 on the complete Hud and speedo cluster with it and i was just buying the HUD. So We are going to try and subsidize the cost by reselling the dash cluster to recoup some of the money invested in buying the HUD in the first place. Does not look like the people with them want to seperate HUD out which is just good business.
We will try hard to get cost down as best We can but, there are just some set cost that We will have no control over. If someone selling the HUD's figure out what We are doing it could cause price to go up. You know supply and demand. What We are thinking once it is perfected Z06 will go out and locate as many as possible along with the parts We have had to wait on and buy up a bunch to stabilize the price for a while at a time. Once We have not been back to buy some for a while the price hopefully will go down and We will jump in and buy a bunch more. He and I are just going to have to run it as a business if for no reason but, to control cost for everyone.
I have learned Z06 is as honest a guy i have met in a while and I gave Him My word and He his that We would work together to get this out to forum Buddies at the best price and so far We have kept Our word to each other and see no reason it will not continue. We are doing our best to help all here. Later We hope to make some money selling them on website and I will take several to every show i compete in and sell some there. Just hold on He is going as fast as He can with his traveling schedule.
Sorry but, on the size of unit the projector is only 2" thick and would not take up much room with a complete box that would have controls etc. on it. Where it will get a little taller is the H2 shield is so straight up and down the projector will have to be mounted tiltled more towards the glass to hit shield at correct angle. No need for special windshield or coating or a layer to add to inside of glass. I did visit with a guy that does retrofits to old Vettes and He says he shoots it right onto factory glass and all he sees is it is a little lighter than with coating. He sent me a pic of HUD on each type of glass and it was barely noticable. The projector uses phosphorous just as the military jet HUD does. I talked to a guy that works for a company near where i live and He designs and builds screens and projector for military and commercial use and He said should not be a problem running it with plain glass.
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I cannot commit to purchasing one right away, but I definitely will as soon as I can afford it. This is something I have wanted for awhile. While the Defi HUD is nice, I would prefer something built for the vehicle. Well, built for this vehicle more than the Defi is.
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We have HUD from Corvette in hands and when BLOWNZ06 gets back from His first wedding aniversary cruise it will go faster now.
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You guys are WACK! But if you can make it work…

I’m in!
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ChuckE no problem. I do not get upset to much about some things. Some things I fire off like a Win 300 Mag. but, as I get older less and less. Usually only if friends are attacked and not myself. Thanks for Your Kindness and You also tower. Thing is if You make me a friend I'm a friend for life and can be trusted without exception until You break that trust. I Love to take time and drive or fly to see people who are My friends and maybe never layed eyes on them. I have several trips planned this year if the people i have in mind would want me to fly to see them and spend just a day or 2 not to wear out My welcome. I;m hoping to go to MOAB this fall with a grup that is going. i want to go and ride with someone so i can learn as by sprning I will have a offroader to take to MOAB. As many have learned here I'm a character and as a very good friend on this site said to Me when We first began to email each other "Well to be successful you have to have a presence and Rick you certainly have that." I Love Him like a brother and have never laid eyes on him because of all the private emails We have. If a person wants to become My friend, share in My Faith or tolerate it and ask for My email in a PM. I have never met a person i consider a stranger. Usually those who get to know me figure out I'm much smarter than I let on and I Love to learn whether it is from a 80 year old or a 15 year old. Learning is finding out about something You have not heard and not about Who it came from.
If a friend needs Me I will stop everything I'm doing and if within My power will come to help and not to stand around looking and wishing you the best or scratching My head saying wish there was something i could do. I will have already figured out if there is something or what i could do. Again thanks ChuckE and tower.

I spent alot of time today with what is considered the 2nd best Corvette guy in Arkansas and He had Me call the best. I left a message and His secretary told Me to keep calling as he moves around to the different Dealers looking after all the service dept.
BlownZ06 has made allot of head way and waiting on me to decide which way to go. I owe Him an email. I did find out today from a guy waiting to get His Vette out of service that he knows of a real nice HUD that will fit anything and He is going to email the name. He is into road racing and seemed quite knowledgeable.
But BlOWNZ06 has really jumped ahead in progress much faster than i thought could be done. He ahs raised My respect level for this guy and i recommend You get to now Him.
I did talk to the head Hummer tech and He is very respected and does all custom work and is working on My rig doing some one of stuff the dealer offered to do. There is an understanding that he works on My rig or I'll wait and schedule when he can. He as well as dealer understand the step I'm taking as well as the risk of putting on the SC but, it is needed for show, They agree. He says He is fairly sure that a scantool cable with the class 2 serial feed to projector should work with a switch in line so i can turn it off but, he is not sure because he has not ever done it or thought about it until I asked. He said he will give it more thought. The Vette tech thinks the same but, that it may have to tie into the PCM with a cable to the projector. If someone could help with finding the feed wires fomr diagnostic port or PCM it wuld be greatly appreciated. This info could speed it up more. i want to read all i can not just tach, speed but, water temp, oil pressure, fuel, charging, well youget the idea. Projector is 2" deep and about 8" square so he said it could be cut into dash. I have a guy that builds custom dash and console all the time and he said he could build something above the dash that would look good and not get in the view. BLOWNZ06 thinks he can come up with something more seemless so that is the way i may go. We have projector lined up and cluster but, waiting on the Dealer Rep to call Me with info before We decide which way to go. Depending on what happens the cluster and projector may be for sell at a price you will be shocked as i have no ententions fo reseling it for a profit so, again speak up with a PM if You want to be considered for that very good deal. First come first severe on the equip. I did talk to a Vette guy who has a complete HUD retofit write up for Vette's 97 to 98 and another for 99 and up. I have seen them and in great detail with pics and He does not sell the equip. You would have to find that Yourself and BLOWNZ06 has found a place that He saved Me $250 and it is from a local guy he knows so, he could be Your source to get cluster and projector. The guy in Tampa furnishes the conversion info for free and i have the web address where it can be found free. What he did do is build a cable that GM does not sell to make it work and gets $45 for it or I think he has in there how to build it. I saw the cable and it looks to be more trouble than worth it so, if i were You i'd buy the cable. It seems he is just a Vette guy helping Vette guys and not interested in making money, He has other business. He may have stuff to sell but, did not mentioned to me when i asked if He had just a projector to sell. It is worth that just for the install direction. You would be amazed the detail of install. Looks like something Jonahs would do and We all know how indepth He gets. If anyone wants it I will go back and find the contact and get it to You for Your Vette. Well as usually I got off track but, i felt this important for the Vette owners who would like to retofit their rides .
He said that the projector can display straight onto any window with no gimicks. it is a very little bit lighter in daylight nothing to worry about but, at night normal. He said there are some products You can use for day help but, He feels it is not needed. He is in Tampa FL.
Well let Me know if You want info before i go back and dig it up but, would be more than happy to do it.
GMAIL is riclove@gmail.com let Me know if You want it or have questions I'll try and answer.
Thanks everyine for putting up with My novels and tolerating Me. i Love this forum and tell everyone i come across about it. If someone does not have an answer the wll dig untill they find and answer.
Thanks to all who contribute info regulaly!!!!!
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Thanks BLOWNZ06
I learn a little more every day. Sorry for the length. They nicknamed Me the The Author jokingly I guess a week ago. I do get long but, trying to work on that. I have a hard time condensing My thoughts. Most just tolerate me and many have become good friends and overlook it. I think they get a kick out of it or a great big ole laugh. I do not mind as I have no trouble laughing at Myself as well.

I will need to get a wideband sensor then. Have not got far enough along to realize that.
If You can help me find what is needed to bench test I would be happy to buy it and let You see if You can make it work and ship it to Me. I hope the Vette salvage gets back to me. As I mentioned he was willing to part with cluster and projectorfor $700 but would be nice if i coud get by with just projector though. I want it for shows I take the Mall Queen to. I will go to links You mentioned. If you run across one let me know where it is and I'll make arraingements to get it to you. Just PM Me and address to ship to so I could pay for it and have it sent to You.
I'm going to the local Chevy dealer Monday and Hummer dealer as well to drop rig off for a few days and will ask tech's there as well. The Chevy place has a guy how works only on Vettes and he will most likely shed more light on this. He may infact have some stuff laying around. I have visited with Him on many things and is always happy to help. With it being something of the wall He may just help with some research and testing. He is the kind that really likes a challenge or something one of a kind to do.
Thanks so much BLOWNZ06 and let me know if You run across anything else. Pm Me if You like so I can save the messages.
if I can get this done We will put up on forum so other can do it if they want.
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Hows it going guys???? Anything new????
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Hey gang can someone help Me to come up with a HUD display that I can convert to the H2. I thought knowing the group We have someone that would Love to take on this challenge with Me. Maybe someone knows someone that is doing this already. I have talked to one guy who is working on taking the HUD that was used in Vettes and seeing if it would work on H2.
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Is there room to cut hole in dash over the area of speedo to install one out of site?
Thanks very much for any help

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Thanks for the update. are you going to be at the SEMA show in Vegas in Nov.????
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Thanks for Your help Jonahs!!

tower I have done allot in my short life and had allot of things happen to Me or been done to Me by others some would called bad I guess.

I had some of the Youth at Church that I have worked with for many years and know Me well, say to Me one time not long ago, man somebody should make a movie out of Your life.
I told Him why it has only been interesting to Me as well as painful, happy, sad, and any other adjective You could think of. I would think eveyone has had a life like that, just to one degree or another better or worse.

Got a big laugh and that was what counted. Many do not have anyone to make them laugh so I try to leave them with that at least when they go on about Their week.
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Actually Chuck, while that is sound thinking, it is not entirely accurate. First, many HUD type displays use a mirror reflection. So the projector is actually pointing to the rear of the vehicle and is then reflected off of a mirror onto the windscreen.

As in an A/V situation, keystone correction is all that would have to be accomplished and the HUD unit itself might have keystone correction built in. By adjusting the projector and the mirror (think of the mirror of like a curved trapezoid) one might be able to easily adjust it to fit into the H2.
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I did some research on this TAZ. Much of it is in development now for a "practical" system. I was concerned about the upright angle of H2 windshields and if I'm not mistaken the Corvettes had a special laminated windshield to make it work. I saw too many problems right now with newer technology around the corner.
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TAZ, it is tiring to constantly read your messages with constant references to God.
Pronouns referring to God should be capitalized. Non-specific use of the word "god" should not be capitalized.
Referring to your recent (but typical use of Pronoun capitalization):<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RLTAZH2:
tower I would not argue the WACK part of it but, one thing for sure if it is going to be out there at the edge of the envelope Jonahs and I have been talking about how to do it that is for sure. He is a gadget WHIZ and I'll come up with an idea every so often and He leads the way to figure it out. Most of the time He finds something out of the norm does it and then gets Me in on it. I have put in an order for a Vette HUD and waiting to see if Jonahs can discover in the H2 wiring a way We can tap into and what decoder He can come up with. If He finds something promising I'm going to have the HUD sent to Him for His H2 and I'm sending Him some software that may or may not help in research.
Well keep You posted tower but, it will come from Jonahs. I get a fruity idea and He loves a challenge and starts digging into it. So do not hesitate to ask Him where He is or if He has come across something. I have some phone time yet to spend with some Vette experts to see if they have ideas. First is to talk to Dealer Monday.
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Head Up Displays For Cars

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October 12, 2004 - 06:15 EST

Futuba Japan has announced a Heads-Up Display (HUD) for cars. It consists of a 128x64 LCD projector that displays such information as speed and itinerary (if hooked up to GPS) directly on the vehicle's windshield. The projector has a record luminance of 40,000 nits in order to guarantee legibility even in full sunlight.
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Thanks for asking tower it allowed me to explain a little more to many.
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Taz,

I want to draft a longer reply when I get time to re-read your last long post. For now, sufficeth to say, somebody's watchin over you and giving you some extra time. I'm glad to know you are making such good use of it.

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Sent you a PM.

Hope you did not buy one from your Vette guy.. I found one A LOT cheaper.

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Old 10-10-2005, 04:07 AM
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No it will not be I do not think. It is all My fault and not Blown. When He finished what He needed it came to Me righ at that time that My rig was stripped inside out from end to end gettiong paint electrical dash out for 12" just on and on . then We had a show and of course My rig gets worked on after hours cause a guy walks in with $10,000 and wants a paint job in a week well You just stop everything and do it or He will just go somewhere else unless He knows of Dragons quality. Honestly rightnow there are 12 custom jobs waiting , 3 engines, We had a Suzuki dealer go buy several motorcycles and wants us to customize them for Him so He can sell them for more. I'm really hoping to do My tests after this week but, right now it is in paint and My dash is in many pieces. We are working as much at night as We are trying to get it ready to take to SEMA. We have 4 companies wanting to use it and possibly as a back up if one does not show that may be cutting it close. So We are hauling it i think and if nothing else having a sharp ride to travel around in and show Our logo. really hope one of the companies use it so We get expenses covered. I had offered someone i knew for just rooms and fuel then He did not need it and others found out so i felt bound to leave it for that. So if they get it it will be a cheap show price for somebody. It will have around $100,000 in it by the time We are through counting labor and puchase etc. It will be SEMA quality and will make the same deal for another company if they need it. i feel it is not right to start jacking up deal when i gave my word up front and know many now abut it.
I hope I can get the HUD to Blown so He can finfish and get it back for us to get it in for SEMA or install it at SEMA since We will be meeting Him there.

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OK, so it can be done. correct? So when and who is doing this first?
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BLOWNZ06 is taking a break for His 1 year wedding aniversary. We should have something more concrete in early June. Hold up has been My fault but, so many things going. I hope to have it installed by end of June. So far everything We see and the Hummer Techs and Corvette Techs I have talked to seem to think it will work. His research seems to bare it out as well. Locating euip. at a reasonable price has slowed it down some.
He has another nice trick He has built into His H2 that I'm going to add. He is going to redesign it to do what I need and in a way that it will be different to do what i want. Cannot tell anyone anything yet. Want to see it works to see if it works setup the way I want it.

I will update HUD as soon as We have something concrete. Do not want anyone getting hopes up until I have it in and working to make sure. He sees no catch to making it work. He is trying to design it in a way to add it so it is sleek and seamless. All He will have to do is ship it to Me and I set it up with little or no mods on My end is what We are trying for.
I hope this all works. It will be cool if it does.
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