Supercharge or not to Supercharge

[Blue]

With all the superchargers out there (Vortec, Magnussen, Whipple, Magna), how did you come to your decision? Was it price or performance or what?

[Blue]

With all the superchargers out there (Vortec, Magnussen, Whipple, Magna), how did you come to your decision? Was it price or performance or what?

[HGW]

Klaus:

Congrats! $600 is a great price-----I am amazed it is that cheap. I install for about $950.00 including extra tuning and I am considered on the low side.

KenP--thanks, I already have an aux fuel pump---I just like to read the guage when I race. It is an old school thing perhaps but I find it comforting.
If yours was installed by Lingenfelter, you have the right stuff for sure. I speak with them on occasion. Did you install their new MAF sensor and their twin fan set up? How about their 160 degree thermostat?

[HGW]

I agree with Klaus--My Magnacharger is fantastic---the twin screw with an intercooler-- actually an aftercooler really performs and with the right tuning it runs smooth with great throttle response. More than one person has driven my H2 and find it hard to go back to the stock H2 HP--it is an entirely different vehicle.

However, I should not have bought the $200.00 warranty. ANY aftermarket performance part--any lift--any different tire size makes the warranty toast on the SC--and forget about engine or drivetrain issues with your dealer once it is on the H2.

Still-----I will SC my next H2 and roll the dice. It is worth the risk.

Cetrifugal SC's are gaining popularity due to their simplicity----I have seen no data to prove that they perform as well as the twin screw--intercooled. I have not yet done an analysis on the HP per dollar comparison since the cetrifugal chargers are quite a bit cheaper.

GM has at least endorsed the Magnacharger--forget any warranty claims with a centrifugals on the market. But...forget about the Magnacharger for GM claims as well.

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Suvs suck:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Suvs suck:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1485005 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't waste your time. Just another group of losers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea except its THE LARGEST AUTOMOTIVE FOURM ONLINE, and last I checked, its the 7th largest fourm on the entire web <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

So what? That only proves that there is a large gathering of FRUITS and NUTS on one forum, if you are representative of the membership there.

[mbdougl]

Actually, when installed by an authorized dealer, they come complete with a supplemental warranty that “mirrors” the factory coverage. I am not sure what that does to the factory warranty??

[HGW]

KenP.

Thanks for the info---I have a flex-a-lite on order----not using the stock fan system is supposed to improve throttle response and add a few horses. I am more concerned with low end throttle response.

[KenP]

I do not have the 160 t-stat. I have thought about it and may do it soon. No on the MAF, but I have a call in to Tim.

I do have the twin 15" Flex-A-Lite fans. Picked them up from a friend that owned a speed shop. I was going to do the install myself but had to send the truck back to them awhile back, so they took care of it. I had them install an aux. temp control switch in the cabin. That fan really messes up other H2 owners because it keeps running after the truck is turned off.

Notice the splice in the top radiator hose. That is for the fan's temp control switch.

[Klaus]

I think the Magnacharger would be my pick. Hey, if it's good enough for Lingenfelter...

[RDKJ]

I, too pulled the trigger and scheduled a visit for my 2004 H2 with Lingenfelter. I do have a question - they state that most people choose the polished supercharger, is this a necessary option? Is the polished look worth $1000? I do not plan to attend the car show circuit. How about the Yank torque convertor, same price installed? I do plan having them install the supercharger, Borla headers, and Brembo cross drilled rotors, stainless brake lines & performance pads.

[Suvs suck]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Klaus:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Suvs suck:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1485005 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't waste your time. Just another group of losers. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yea except its THE LARGEST AUTOMOTIVE FOURM ONLINE, and last I checked, its the 7th largest fourm on the entire web

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Suvs suck:
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1485005 <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't waste your time. Just another group of losers.

[KenP]

Interior switch is located where many folks put their light switch.

Klaus, thanks. That video cracks me up everytime I see it. I have no illusions about it, but it still makes me laugh.

[Suvs suck]

Supercharged H2 ideas

[KenP]

Klaus, Congrats. I can't wait to hear what you have to say about it.

Kirk, It is 2 1/8". It looks best from a distance as the fit around it is not very good. LPE is not using that one anymore. Here is a pick and link to what they are using. That is an entirely new molded piece. I like the look better, but not the location.

http://www.lingenfelter.com/lingenfe...&dept%5Fid=125

[Blue]

With all the superchargers out there (Vortec, Magnussen, Whipple, Magna), how did you come to your decision? Was it price or performance or what?

[HUMMUH]

First things first.

A Supercharger is a must if you want strong acceleration when passing or towing in an H2.

A Supercharger is a must if you want to maximize your fuel economy with efficient driving.

Which one is more of a preference. I chose Vortech because of the 3-year warranty and the fact that my dealer said it was the only one they had not had significant difficulties in getting the programming right.

I drove a Whipple Supercharged H2 and while less intrusive to the engine my dealer said they had to stop doing them because they just had too many issues with them and unhappy customers something they were not interested in creating.

Have had my Vortech SC for 10,000 miles, purrs like a kitten, getting 13.3 mpg now but tanks are checking out at 14+ so average is still rising since I had 10,000 miles on the H2 before we made the final decision with the dealer. The pick-up is awesome and while I don't get on it a lot - when I want to it really wakes you up. Cayenes are the only SUV's that can hang with me even uphill.

It costs money - but -
Life is relatively short. while alive -live!

[kdio]

KenP, what size gauge did you get and where did you get the housing for the gauge. I've been looking for a clean method of installing a boost gauge and yours is the best I have seen.

Thanks for the input.
Kirk

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by CRUZMISL:
Who has the best installed price in the great lakes area? I did some shopping and they all seem to be around $7k. That's a ton of scratch.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Check your private messages.

[HGW]

The SC comes with a Superchips programmer BUT only works for the SC reprogramming.

NOTE: The SC does not come with a boost guage. I spoke with the Magneson guys--it keeps the price of the kit down, plus there are so many guage choices.

It is important if you are going to go beyond the "stock" Magneson tune to have a boost guage, a fuel pressure guage and an exhaust temp guage. I also have an air to fuel ratio guage coming. Tuning a SC beyong its stock tune requires caution. Too high of a boost without proper fuel injectors, fuel flow, and other goodies can cause early detonation on pump gas and damage your engine. The stock set up with a boost guage is all that is needed unless you plan to race your H2. Mine is going down the 1/4 mile this month----want to see 14 second times and them edge toward high 13's with a stock bottom end engine.

I bought a Diablo "predator" from www.diablosport.com for all other programming. I could have sent the Superchips back for them to do a specific tune for about $150.00.

The Diablo lets me adjust the tune myself. I also changed tire size for my 38's, etc. More on this later---must go make some money to pay for my toys.