anyone else having trouble getting 37" MTR's??

[Jigga]

I've placed an order for a set but they're out of stock at every warehouse and are on backorder at the factory. My dealer can't get an estimate on arrival time. I can't decide to wait for these or go for the BFG MT's. Anyone else having trouble trying to get these tires?

2003 Pewter H2 with Adventure Package.

[JSA_3]

Randall,
Glad to hear you made the trip O.K. - - Did you stop and get your Mexican Food fix??

I'd love to see some pics of your tires. Any of Colorado as well.

I'm going to throw my ignorance out here, what Brand is DC FC II?

Anyway thanks - - enjoyed meeting and talking last month in S.A.

John

P.S. Buckeye - here is a link to another section of the forum that show some different shots of the 37" MTR's. Hope it helps

http://www.elcova.com/groupee/forums?a=tpc&s=2826088551&f=2606011751&m=551604050 3

[buddy]

I heard they are impossible to find and are backordered nationwide.

[Apex IV]

Having had all three sizes, myself, my observations are:

Stock tires are too narrow and too short (aesthetically) but are probably the best "compromise" for on/off roading. Hummer made a wise choice for a stock tire.

Changing the 315/70's for the BFG 37x12.50's effects a subtle aesthetic change. Most people won't even know you have non-stock tires, but it'll just plain look better than most other stockers running around. These tires fit nicely in the wheel wells/stock flares with no modifications. Like the stock tires, little to no rubbing in moderate off-road conditions. Extreme conditions will cause them to rub a bit sooner than the stock tires, but nothing serious. Noticed about a 1 MPG drop, mostly attributable to needing speedo recalibration. This tire is "only" 36.3" tall, NOT 37". It's about 1/2" - 7/8" wider than stock tires. Performance (acceleration) is affected due to the height/effective gear ratio change, but it didn't bother me much on a bone-stock H2 (my yellow one.) In fact, the 37 x 12.50's on my stock H2 performed BETTER in the Breckenridge <> Denver climb than my unit with intake/exhaust/flashed unit with stock tires. Same "course" (throughout CO) with same modded H2 and the 13.50's was the best overall.

The 13.50's fill out the wheel wells nicely if you have the extended flares. I don't know the brand/name of the flares I have - I just Optioned them at my dealer - but I'll find out and post the info. The FC II 13.50's are 37.2" tall, so you'll notice an acceleration penalty. Not really a problem if your rig is modded from mild -to- moderate (intake/exhaust/flashed -to- Supercharged) unless you're fantasizing about your 6,800 brick besting the local street racers - LOL. Nevertheless, here's the rub (pun intended - LOL)... At maximum steering wheel lock, these tires will rub a little. I can feel the "DC" logo "bumps" through the steering wheel, so I back off a little. My friend who owns the truck accessory shop, Planet Pickup (hate that name) said he had to adjust the front end height by cranking up the torsion bars. This had made the ride rougher and the steering response feels a little odd. Upon investigation, I do not believe they needed to crank them up, at least not that far, so I'll be dropping them soon. I like the aesthetics better with the front end up since I never liked the "down hill" attitude of the stockers.

I believe that when my SUT comes in, I'll just HAVE to go for these tires again since I like the appearance... well, except for the tacky DC logo thing. I'll be looking for a stock-looking wheel with about 1/2" more width and perhaps a LITTLE more offset, perhaps with beadlock. I do not like tires sticking out past the wheel wells/flares. The stock H2 wheel is the minimum recommended width for this particular tire, BTW. Phil D can probably confirm that the minimum recommended wheel width for the only other 37 x 13.50 I know of (X-Terrain?) is 9"... Phil? This shouldn't be a problem except for moderate-wild off-roading.

These tires have about 4,500 miles on them now and I have found them to ride fine with no noticeable increase in highway noise. It's different, but not louder. I think we all (secretly?) like a little tire noise :-) I give DC/MT an "A" on tread pattern. Noticed considerably better off road grip over the BFG AT/KO's (both sizes.) Not as good in moderate/gooey mud as the MT/R's, but OVERALL (for me!) a better tire.

These tires run about $350 each. Comparing this with the avg. price for the BFG AT/KO's at (say) $215, I'm not sure the 13.50's are the best bang for the buck. I'm less sensitive to price than I am performance (incl. looks), so this wasn't a big deal. Your mileage may vary. For what it is worth, I am putting BFG AT/KO 37 x 12.50 x 17 on the stock wheels on my other three units (one already has them, so two more actually) since they are subtly different and still "leaves room" for me to have something just a one small notch different from those units :-)

As to the treatment on my trim, it is actually "Rhino Lining" - very similar to LINE-X. I chose "Black Pearl", which looks more dark/drab green to me, especially with a green H2. I wanted it to, again, just be subtly different from the other three units. Most times, people choose a contrasting/complimenting color (which looks good), but I wanted to be a little different. So far, so good, so I'll probably do the same to my SUT.

Hope this helps. Glad to answer any questions. Sorry if this all reads poorly, I was interrupted several times by Mrs. Apex while writing this, so it kind of jumps around.

-Randall Garrett-

[kdio]

The H2 with the Dick Cepek FCII, what type of fender flare did you use? Are these the Stillen flares? They look great. I also put 37s on my H2, and the wider fender flares would help. Thanks

Kirk

03 H2 Sunset Orange Polished Magna Charger w headers & cold air intake, 37" MTRs w Weld Mountain Crushers, GPS Nav. & 2 rear LCD TVs w DVD, Extreme Tube steps

[DRTYFN]

Wait for the MTRs. They're much better than the MTs. Go to www.tirerack.com They should have them.

Hi ApexIV

Thank you foe your pictures on all three different tires. It shows me that if you want a "beefy" tire for the H2 the 37-13.5-17 is the one. It looks like it fills the well and stick out a few inches more from fender. Please tell me (with both 37") what you did to the H2 after you put these tires on in terms of:realiment/speedometer/gear ratios/computer changes - I mean can you just stick these larger tires on the rig and not do anything else?

BTW - your rear spoiler look fantastic - I have a black one on my Black/white color orientation - However I like the matching color spoiler (white on my rig would not look that great).



"It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts - John Wooden

[Jigga]

I've placed an order for a set but they're out of stock at every warehouse and are on backorder at the factory. My dealer can't get an estimate on arrival time. I can't decide to wait for these or go for the BFG MT's. Anyone else having trouble trying to get these tires?

2003 Pewter H2 with Adventure Package.

[Apex IV]

Phil:

Understood and agreed. I wanted to let things settle a bit before tweaking. I think that things are pretty well settled in after a 4,200 mile trip... :-) Now that I'm back, I'm going to tweak it some and then have it realigned. I have very slight rubbing on my sway bar and the rear portion of the driver's side frame rail. I hope that shaving the (IMHO obnoxious) "DC" logo will eliminate some of that, but I suspect that the extra width is the problem. I bought these tires as an experiment - to see if I want them on my SUT, which will be heavily modified, but street-worthy. I'm thinking that I'll need wheels with more offset (1/2" - 3/4"), but the 13.50's fill out my wheel well now, and I've got extended fender flares, so I'll want to be picky on wheels, etc. I like the "sleeper" look - something that looks stock to the untrained eye... :-)

When you coming up this way again? My wife was chagrined when she learned that yours attended the dinner. She thought she'd be out of place there. I'm sure she would have enjoyed talking with y'all since she grew up in Corpus and since all our family has moved from there, we never go there anymore... :-(

I think you and I are in the definite minority of being former H1 owners (when they were jut "Hummers" - LOL)

-Randall Garrett-

[Buckeye Hummer]

Just Tires around the corner from my warehouse is selling them at $195 and yes they had them in stock.

Does anyone have a pic with these on their H2? What does it do for the performance off-road? Are the wells big enough for this tire? Questions may sound stupid but why waste $800 if you're not sure.

[CronusTRD]

They are on National Back Order due to the operations overseas...They are finally starting production again..

i had difficulties tracking down 37/12.5/15,

Definitely not an H2!!!

[Apex IV]

If you can handle the extra width, you may want to consider the DC FC II 37 x 13.50 x 17's. I just put a set on mine and have returned from a 4,200 mile trip. No problems and a better ride (better traction, too) than I had with the 37 x 12.50 x 17's I had on my first H2. Will try to post pictures of 3 or our units tomorrow - one with stock, one with 37 x 12.50 x 17's and mine with the 37 x 13.50 x 17's. All I had to do was to crank up the torsion bars a bit to get them to work OK. Didn't have to do that on the BFG 37's, but then the BFG's were only 36.3" tall vs. the FC II's which measure 37.1" tall and fill out the wheel wells nicely. Could have done without the "DC" logo on the side though - LOL.

Hope this helps!

-Randall Garrett-

[ticket2ride]

What's a "DC FC II" ??? What company makes these?

[TBarrow]

Hey Randall, tires look great I left you a message after getting my MT/R's. Did you LINE-X your bumpers, brushguard and side tubes,and color key your rear vents above the tailights?

Black H2 Adventure Series + Luxury, AirForce One intake, Throttle Body Bypass, Gobi Rack w/2" Brackets & 4 PIAA 580 Lights, Alcoa Wheels, Goodyear 37x12.50x17 MT/R, Warn 9.5Ti Thermometric Winch, DiabloSport programmer,160 Degree T-Stat, 2-7" screens in headrests with DVD player and TV Tuner.

[Buckeye Hummer]

PhilD,

Thanks for the pic. It's a little hard to get perspective on the size but I think I got the idea. The grill was actually the most eye grabbing, especially on the white. Very cool!

[Apex IV]

Here are a few pictures I snapped yesterday. Sorry about the quality. The lens fogged up when I went outside, plus they are reduced. I can take some more (better?) pictures if anyone wants them.

-Randall Garrett

[Apex IV]

Here are a couple more of the Dick Cepek Fun Country II tires @ 37" x 13.50" x 17"

-Randall Garrett-

[JSA_3]

Duh -- Sorry Phil I just read the end of your post - - never mind

[TBarrow]

I ordered a set on 8-25 and they installed them on 8-26. They are great and I couldn't be happier. I bought them at Discount Tire. they are not in MS but go to www.tires.com and have them shipped they are around 221 with free shipping. Good luck and if I can help drop me an e-mail.

Black H2 Adventure Series + Luxury, AirForce One intake, Throttle Body Bypass, Gobi Rack w/2" Brackets & 4 PIAA 580 Lights, Alcoa Wheels, Goodyear 37x12.50x17 MT/R, Warn 9.5Ti Thermometric Winch, DiabloSport programmer,160 Degree T-Stat, 2-7" screens in headrests with DVD player and TV Tuner.