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05-21-2007, 01:57 AM
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Dragonskin might work, I hope it does.
In order to meet the criteria it has to work in rain, cold, heat and sun, and resist a variety of chemicals, over a period of years.
They already know ceramic plates work, they are heavy and hot, but they have been proven to stop rifle velocity projectiles.
Hopefully Dragonskin or something similar is the future, but only if it is proven to work.
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05-21-2007, 02:06 AM
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The U.S. Army will defer spending and slow repair work on any equipment not needed for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan due to Congress' failure to approve $100 billion in extra war funding, the largest branch of the armed forces said on Monday.
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The Bush administration requested $100 billion in additional war funding but Congress has tied those funds to a deadline for withdrawing troops from Iraq.
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Bush shoved back hard, indicating no wiggle room on his postion for a bill that would fund American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan without a timetable for withdrawal
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Democratic leaders in Congress are bent on using a bill that funds our troops to make a political statement about the war
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Additional orders cannot be placed until the disagreement over the war spending legislation is settled. That bill would give the Army ($1.2 billion), the Marines ($1.25 billion), the Navy ($154 million), the Air Force ($139 million) and special operations forces ($259 million) money to buy their own versions of the carriers, according to Bill Johnson-Miles, spokesman for the Marine Corps Systems Command. (Source: Army Times April 24, 2007)
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?We can build what we can get the funds to build. It?s strictly an issue of money,? Gen. Peter Schoomaker, former Army chief of staff, told a Senate committee last month.
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05-21-2007, 02:26 AM
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Many have already seen this, but the ceramic plates worked. He was shot with a Russian sniper rifle.
He survived and the towel heads were caught by members of the soldiers own platoon.
http://www.ifilm.com/video/2675852
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05-21-2007, 02:30 AM
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Dateline is doing a piece on Dragon Skin tonight.
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05-21-2007, 02:40 AM
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I have worn vests for years. A couple of years ago it came out that the vests everyone was wearing might not work after exposure to light and perspiration.
I took mine off right then and there and went and shot it (I have several of them). The bullets went right through. It was an eye opener! Half an hour before, I had been counting on it to protect me.
I hope NBC is fair, but I don't expect a balanced long term viewpoint from them. The media doesn't always do their homework correctly.
Whether it's Dragonskin or not, I want the politicians sitting safely in their offices to put gear that works in the hands of those doing the job!
If Dragonskin can protect these guys, and do it after prolonged exposure, they ought to have it.
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05-21-2007, 03:22 AM
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That Brig. Gen. in charge of body armor is a douche.
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05-21-2007, 12:26 PM
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At 7:16 am this morning the NBC Today show aired a 6 minute report about DragonSkin.
In "LIMITED" testing with unbias observers including a retired U. S. Army General the DragonSkin totally OUTPROFORMED the current U. S. Army body armor. It was an impressive report and they do say the testing was not under all types of test conditions...
But it makes you think....
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05-21-2007, 12:29 PM
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I didn't know that body protection was standard issue in the US Millitery, I know it isnt for our guys in the UK. there have been so many deaths becouse of shortages of equipment. even one case of a guy who was told to give his armour to someone else who was supposedly in a higher risk possition and was then killed by a sniper within 48hrs of giving it up.
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05-21-2007, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Ground hawg
I didn't know that body protection was standard issue in the US Millitery, I know it isnt for our guys in the UK. there have been so many deaths becouse of shortages of equipment. even one case of a guy who was told to give his armour to someone else who was supposedly in a higher risk possition and was then killed by a sniper within 48hrs of giving it up.
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I hate to say it but the FREE WORLDS MILITARIES need to be increased in size and better outfitted.
AND
when threat levels drop, which one day they will, we still need to maintain their size and technology updating. OUR problem is that everytime the world calms down for a short period of time we decrease our Military Rediness, which winds up hurting us a little time later...
Vote for me for PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES and I will maintain and update the military, possibly reinstate the draft, get federal money into the pockets of law enforcement, fire fighters and CLASSROOM teachers in the U.S.
I will increase taxes a little. I will END ILLEGAL IMMAGRATION, for countries that don't want U.S. help I will make sure they don't get it...
I will POUR money into oil independence research and DEMAND results from those doing the research. I will increase nucular power in the U.S.
MORE TO COME>>>>>>>
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05-23-2007, 03:09 PM
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See http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,274439,00.html
The piece they did on Special Report on Fox News yesterday convinced me that NCB's special was so misleadingly designed to unfairly attack the current administration as to be worthless. Fox had current and former military personnel on exlpaining how the current military armor is better than Dragonskin for stopping 7.62 mm impacts and for hot environoments like Iraq, and how it is lighter and more comfortable in hot places, etc ...
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