This will totally suck!

[NEOCON1]

sell your imports and buy american . nothin but gm since my 76 k5 blazer .

[Grandman]

Remeber years ago when the UAW was running TV commercials " buy American "

While the big 3 were buying cheap metric bolts at the same time

Union has out lived its purpose . Neighbor retired from GM some years ago . was making 19 bucks an hour to stick door pads on . Give me a break .

[XM DUDE]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">BUY AMERICAN </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
BUY AMERICAN while you still can.

[XM DUDE]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Hummer*Man:
Avian Flu coupled with the impending labor revolt in China make this a non-issue. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What makes you think there will be a labor revvolt?

[shipbldr]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ODAMO:
If we lose our ability to manufacture ( we are) then we will eventually lose our ability to defend our nation. PERIOD - end of discussion -
</div></BLOCKQUOTE>

AMEN!

[Huck BB62]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NEOCON1:
sell your imports and buy american . nothin but gm since my 76 k5 blazer . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Except for parts of our dear H3.

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XM DUDE:
I heard in 10 years that most of GM's vehicles will be made in China!, so you have 10 good years of Hummer buying before the quality takes a dive. I rally hope this dosen't happen, as I hate **** made in China or anything to do with China for that matter. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I heard from Al Gore and the other LIEBERALS that the sky is falling and the end is near.

[bparker]

Whats funny is all this $hit being outsourced to be made in China and in time (all be it years) china will end up owning us.

[Kid Shyleen]

Totally agree fstop! Well said. And after all, the H3 would have been larger, had a stock V8 and been more capable had the unions let Hummer do what Hummer wanted to do!

BUY AMERICAN!

[evldave]

my 2 cents (or is that 1/6 RMB?)

I studied Chinese history in college, have gone there on business 5 times in the last few years, was project manager to outsource some of our admin work to India (scuttled that), and have a lot of friends that are Chinese (in China, not Chinese-American).

I've also toured manufacturing plants in Korea, China, India, and the US (likely more than anyone here). None in Japan (see F5fstops rant, I completely agree with that).

Here's the difference: There is PRIDE in the work done in those mfr plants overseas. They hold us up as a model (see WWII), and continue to work hard to be like us, not beat us. Unfortunately, we have gotten fat and happy (too much talking about WWII instead of making sure we can win WWIII). I hear a lot of talk at US manufacturing plants about 'buy american' and some people do, but mostly when it's convenient or cheap. Instead, we sit around and talk about how good the good ol' days were and bit*h about these other places where it's cheaper to make stuff.

And I'll say this, in general, I wouldn't trust someone from China for much of anything. Their culture allows and even promotes reverse-engineering - not as theft but as triumph. They'll steal every good idea we have, then partner with Korea to make it better (and Korea's darn close to our equal in hi-tech development). And once the government finally realizes things like TPS, LEAN, Six-Sigma, and all those other mfr-line quality and efficiency programs work, you can kiss large-scale manufacturing in the US bye-bye.

And you can gripe about China, but we should all be looking at Africa and Central America (not Mexico). There's been a slow but steady increase in movement of hi-tech manufacturing out of Taiwan/Korea/China to places like Nigera and Costa Rica. One problem with a peaceful world is that there are lots of people out there willing (and getting more able) to do more work cheaper. China's just the tip of the iceberg.

and my current vehicles are GM Suburban, Ford F250, and my Hummer (just sold my Jeep). My whole family? Tahoe, Chevy 1500, Chevy 1500, PT Cruiser, Escort, Caravan. Had a '79 civic in college for 3 months. Traded it for a 1968 Chevy pickup.

http://www.buyamerican.com
http://www.usstuff.com

[shipbldr]

Don't under estimate the Chinese. They are a serious threat.

The Chinese are very amibitious... cold blooded about what it takes to get ahead... and making better and better stuff every year. They are the next Japan, just 10-15 times larger.

Don't get me wrong, I worry like hell about US industrial base taking a nose dive. It is not good!

But then I look at the cost of doing business here and the reason for the nose dive is obvious!

Everybody constantly demands the lowest possible price on the goods they buy... and it costs a *&^% fortune to do business here, so companies send their production to China to get a better price. Either companies off-shore or they die.

Here's the truth most Amercians don't want to face:

YOUR HOUSE HAS NOT GONE UP IN VALUE!

Instead the value of your dollar went down! We had massive inflation. Consumer debt (all forms including mortgages) went from 7 trillion 12 years ago to 23+ trillion today.

Massive money over supply = inflation (simple)

Most people missed it completely!

-You see normally when the dollar drops, the cost of everyday goods (household crap, cars, clothes) goes up. Then people say AH! inflation!

While the value of the dollar plummented, the cost of goods dropped fast enough to offset it. Most stuff people watch tolookout for inflation didn't change in price. So most people are oblivious to what's happening.

Proof?

Things of finite supply hold value over time. They are inflation-proof. Three examples are: GOLD, LAND, and ENERGY

Land held its value as the dollar has dropped. (Check house prices up about 50% in the last 5 years)

Energy held its value. (Check gas price vs 5 years ago -50% up)

Gold is catching up VERY FAST.

Are the Chinese a threat. Yes.

Are they to blame? No. The blame is our own fault for too much *^*^ intergenerational overhead (Massive unfunded pensions, entitlements, social security) and waste (absurd lawsuits, gov't fat cat deals, and non-value add ecomonic activity)

But that's another story.

I find it tough to blame the Chinese for simply doing what is asked of them at a great price.

Last time I checked, that was the American way...

Rant over!!!

(Playing with plastic dinosaur again)