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tis too and pad while i'm back here  
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03-03-2006, 05:09 PM
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Originally posted by XM DUDE:
Consumer remorse rated the Hummer brand last in realibility and quality, hmmm are they biased to forgen cars?
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Are you really suprised at this?
The pre Alpha H1 IS VERY unreliable. Everything that can go wrong will, just read HML.
The H2 is better but still has reliability and quality issues.
GM definitely made major quality improvements with the H3 and it is definitely the most reliable HUMMER made to date but it still doesn't compare to a 4Runner in reliability. |
03-03-2006, 12:54 AM
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Car and Driver does not know a damm thing about off-road rigs. It's a guessing game to them!
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03-03-2006, 09:38 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by XM DUDE:
Consumer remorse rated the Hummer brand last in realibility and quality, hmmm are they biased to forgen cars?
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Are you really suprised at this?
The pre Alpha H1 IS VERY unreliable. Everything that can go wrong will, just read HML.
The H2 is better but still has reliability and quality issues.
GM definitely made major quality improvements with the H3 and it is definitely the most reliable HUMMER made to date but it still doesn't compare to a 4Runner in reliability. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I would agree with your statement in part.
add these to the dicussion
(1)How long has the H3 been on the market?
(2) Is the Toyota 4runner in the same class as the H3
(3) Is there anything in the H1 alpha class on the market?
I buy what i like, and if a magazine or manufacture stops providing a product I desire, I show my displeasure with my pocket book.
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03-03-2006, 12:00 AM
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I didnt read it but was it an off-road test or was it just a general SUV kind of thing?
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They picked the SUV's with the best off-road credentials (except for the Rubicon, but I guess they had one from Jeep already) and then the ones that were the least of those off-road worthy won: 1. Exterra 2. Grand Cherokee 3. FJ40 4. H3. Sort of like Consumer Reports (and C&D) picking a uni-body pickup that doesn't tow or haul worth a darn, but it's comfortable.
I'll try to stop this ranting, but I DARE a car mag (or Cons. Rpts.) to put the vehicles owned by their writers in the front. That has the most to do with it. I became Regis' biggest fan when he asked a Consumer Reports writer on his show what he drove. You don't get journalism like this from ABC news anymore... (It was a Corolla I think.)
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03-04-2006, 03:54 AM
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(1)How long has the H3 been on the market?
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Not long, but we can still compare initial qualities.
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Yes. http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=6126
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(3) Is there anything in the H1 alpha class on the market?
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G-Wagen and maybe Range Rover
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Originally posted by Edspad:I buy what i like
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06-03-2006, 04:47 PM
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Re: Car And Driver rates H-3 last.
You guys are digging way too deeeep. With a magazine titled "CAR and driver", dont expect a good TRUCK review.
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Re: Car And Driver rates H-3 last.
Well, if it ranked best off road, thats what the Hummer is all about. Mission accomplished. Ever driven a Jeep Wrangler? Yuch.
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03-03-2006, 04:58 PM
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who cares about them  , used to buy the magazine but now I don't.
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You mean "Foreign Car and Driver" at least thats whatt they should be called because they NEVER rate American vehicles very high.
In my opinion they are nothing more than an advertising brochure for foreign cars.
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Car and Driver is what turned me on to the H3, in 2004 when they ran a short piece on GM testing the H3 at Rubicon. I don't remember them saying anything bad about it then, in fact I looked up that particular article online, and it helped me to chose the H3 over a Jeep Rubicon when I went 4WD shopping last December. I really enjoy the mag, but like most things in print, gotta keep it in perspective. Whatever they rate the H3, I still think I made the best choice in buying one.....
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03-03-2006, 04:22 AM
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Being voted "Best Off Road" and last on road is a definite compliment.
These boys are made to shine offroad.
Of course the others will be better on road. They're MALL RUNNERS. 
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Re: Car And Driver rates H-3 last.
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Being voted "Best Off Road" and last on road is a definite compliment.
These boys are made to shine offroad.
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that sums it up pretty damn well  
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06-03-2006, 05:45 PM
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Re: Car And Driver rates H-3 last.
Lance heres a pic of NoMo leadin the pack
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