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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I am interested in the SUT.....my H2 isn't bad neither is my Avalanche and I may just trade em both but the SUT bed is smaller and I know I am gonna miss the 8.1.....Too bad GM doesn't squeeze it in the SUT......then they would have a 100% vehicle. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Hell, GM can't even fit the 6.6 Duramax into the H2 engine bay. When you think about it, the engine bay is pretty small in the Hummer, and the wheel wells take up a LOT of space in the lateral front of the bay. Having to put in an 8.1 would mean an angled, longitudinal mount, and that's something that would require a hell of a lot of new engineering. Pass that along to the consumer in the form of higher sticker pirces, and still no rebates, and I just don't think GM will sell that many.
Give the 6.0 some time as the standard H2 engine, and once the initial R&D costs are paid off, (Even as much as GM saves by platform sharing, it's still expensive to develop a new engine and powetrain platform) and then we'll see some engine options. I'd love to see the 8.1, and I've never driven one. I've driven the 6.0 and the 5.3, and I loved them both. 
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The Avalanche with an 8.1, eh.... Well that only puts out 320 HP @ 4200 rpm, and 440 lb.-ft. @ 3200 rpm. What does the H2 get with 2.1 l. LESS of displacement? Could it be just 4HP less? Of course your H2 generates it's HP at 5200rpms and it's peak tourqe at 4000 rpms, but that's a lot of extra space in the 8.1 for 4 extra horses.
Then again, look at the bore and stroke differences. The H2 is bored and stroked at 4 X 3.62 / 101.6 X 92 and the Avalanche B&S is 4.25 X 4.37 / 108 X 111. That and the fact that the Avalanche runs a 9.1:1 compression ratio and the Hummer gets 9.4:1. I don't know what all that will prove, except that I'm not as big a fan of the big block 8.1 as I am of the 6.0
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11-03-2003, 06:26 PM
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When you go to the Vehicle Media site, click on the "HUMMER at SEMA" link on the right side of the page. It'll prompt you for a password to get in, but just hit cancel. You can't see the media pictures, but then the left sidebar will open up and have all this info on a drop down menu.
Plus, there's and H1 section under it.
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11-06-2003, 08:32 PM
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No fair that the SUT gets that gas cap... GRRR. It's funny, but with the SUT back, it makes the whole truck look smaller and less gargantuan. Funny that. Are the dimensions the same? How about the interior? Same size there too?
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11-05-2003, 01:21 AM
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Why would the SUT be more than the H2? The H1 wagon is more than the truck version...
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11-06-2003, 06:42 PM
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11-04-2003, 04:52 PM
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You're welcome. Anything I can do to confuse the issue more? 
Just kidding. In a personal decision, the H2 wins over Avalanche, even though some Avalanche models also qualify for the tax break, and some aren't even rated by the EPA for fuel economy, same as the H2.
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Those are the sweetest pix I've seen so far. I bet the SUT is going to sell really well, 30-40% of H2 sales will be SUT.
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11-06-2003, 05:27 PM
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Found a couple more...
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11-04-2003, 09:53 AM
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This one appears to be a charcoal grey color...
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Centerfire:
Neat.. Does anyone know what the port looking thing on the front hood is.. Looks like a post for a 30cal machinegun. Anyone know.
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With the mid gate down, do you think there will be room for a full size ATV? I've been considering the Avalanche or a pick-up for that very reason, but would definitely consider the SUT if an ATV would fit !!
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Neat.. Does anyone know what the port looking thing on the front hood is.. Looks like a post for a 30cal machinegun. Anyone know.
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Thanks for all that Drag... 
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So do most people. Its new on the '04s...
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Man, I guess you beat me to it. I just posted that in the "In the Press" board. You lucky dog, you!
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The all black interior is hot! (mean that literally as well in the sun...)
Hoping that we see the all black interior as an option for the SUV.
Did you notice that the center console is also now done in leather...nice!
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11-06-2003, 05:40 PM
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wow i really hate that cheezy h2 symbol on the sterring wheel
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