Why the FJ Cruiser is no Threat to the H3

[DTHVLY]

The argument that those pictures don?t mean anything because they are corporate owned vehicles is ridiculous. They are still stock vehicles and while it?s true they might be pushing them to their limits they are not breaking them, other than scratched and dented skid plates the FJ?s didn?t break anything during there trips to Moab. The H3?s that went to Moab were obviously pushed to their limit and beyond because two of them broke their drivelines on a less difficult obstacle than Potato Salad. If the H3?s would have attempted Potato Salad they would have surely broken.

Potato Salad Hill is one of the most dangerous obstacles in Moab and any stock vehicle that can do it is the real deal. I have seen the video of H2?s on Potato Salad and it was impressive but it's an obstacle that favors wide long wheelbase vehicles that's why it would be even more difficult for the FJ because of its shorter wheel base and smaller tires.

Here are a couple excerpts regarding Potato Salad Hill

?Potato Salad Hill may roll more 4WDs than any other obstacle in Moab. It is so dangerous that the Red Rock 4-Wheelers no longer include it in the official Hell's Revenge trail run.?

?it is no longer an official part of the trail and is very dangerous. Several 4X4s roll there every year and countless more break gears, drive shafts and axles. ?

Rubi rolls

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

If the H3?s would have attempted Potato Salad they would have surely broken.

Potato Salad Hill is one of the most dangerous obstacles in Moab and any stock vehicle that can do it is the real deal. I have seen the video of H2?s on Potato Salad and it was impressive but it's an obstacle that favors wide long wheelbase vehicles that's why it would be even more difficult for the FJ because of its shorter wheel base and smaller tires.

Yer just a stupid one aren't cha.

So, the H3 would have surely broken on PS, the H2s did it because of their width and wheelbase and the FagJalopy can't because it's wheelbase and tires.

When you stick your dick in the tailpipe, do you grab and rub the taillights....

[KenP]

I think a stock H3 could go up PSH. The two that broke were early run H3's with defective diffs. It's getting to be pretty common knowledge that many early numbered 3's had that problem.

[HummerNewbie]

Originally Posted by sfox

I have in all seriousness invited anyone from the FJ forum that is interested to come out to our event this month, so far noone has even commented on the thread.

They be scared of all you ******* guys and gals

[NEOCON1]

hey dumb valley , if your test drivers didant break anything , it must not of been much of a test thats the whole point in testing , to see what you can break . the true Moab expierience includes bustin your $hit a thousand miles from home , sounds like you are not up to it



FJ = 2 wheel drive mall cruiser

the proof is the 6 speed wtf ???????????? highway cruiser

all you need is a 3 speed for old school wheelin !!!!!!!!!!!

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by sfox

The H3's that broke, broke on the golden stairs, which depending on your wheelbase, is equal to or harder than PSH...if you haven't seen/driven them both, then shut it Toyota tool...and once again ANYONE can beat a rig that they don't have to fix, it don't mean a thing unless you bring your own junk. Seriously, if a car manufacturer gave me a sedan and paid me to try and run trail with it, I'd sure as hell beat the rig until it couldn't go any further...as long as I didn't have to fix it. PSH is a tough obstacle, but not an H3 eater

I have in all seriousness invited anyone from the FJ forum that is interested to come out to our event this month, so far noone has even commented on the thread.

S

where? linky I'll comment. Hell, I'd love to wheel with other vehicles, especially new ones that no one is sure what it's capabilities are.

[DRTYFN]

OMFG!!! The hobbit has gone mad with power.

[31_bandits]

i don't blame the FJ dudes for not hopping at the opportunity.

all this inter-brand rivalry makes me a bit leery at times as well. over the weekend i was advised by a guy with a really BIG jeep to air down to 3psi in my tires, and he said it was practically zero-chance that i'd blow a bead.

was he trying to help, or was that hand about 1/2" from his camera hoping the hummer would blow a bead so he could take pictures of it and spread them across all 31 continents in the nearest 11 solar systems as "proof" that hummers sucked?

How many times in america this year will some dude try to get somebody elses $70k H2 all scratched up just for kicks? it'll happen

His jeep was HUGE. he had 40-something inch tires that stuck out about 8" to a foot on either side. it was cool

and my hummer was too wide to really go on most of the trails w/o concern. An Audi could have driven some of the trails, and could have done it alot faster than i did in th ehummer. In that type of place, it would have been alot more fun in a jeep.

[31_bandits]

or possibility of malice aside, wouldn't it be better / more fun to offroad with a bunch of people that you knew wanted you to make it up the hill and over the rock, rather than worry that somebody wanted you to fail?

i know you ******* guys would help anybody driving anything as best you could, but the FJ dudes might not be as certain about that.

I think it would be fun if i got one of everything and compared them. save some pennies.

[DTHVLY]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

So, the H3 would have surely broken on PS, the H2s did it because of their width and wheelbase and the FagJalopy can't because it's wheelbase and tires.

In case you missed it, the FJ did Potato Salad and didn't break...

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

In case you missed it, the FJ did Potato Salad and didn't break...

In cased you missed it, I was paraphrasing you, dumbdick.

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

I have seen the video of H2?s on Potato Salad and it was impressive but it's an obstacle that favors wide long wheelbase vehicles that's why it would be even more difficult for the FJ because of its shorter wheel base and smaller tires.

And all I see is an FJ ON potato salad where are the rest of the pics or the video of it completing it.

[DTHVLY]

I love how you guys try to rationalize it:

Originally Posted by PhilD

"the right side of PSH is hardly the most difficult thing in the World"

Originally Posted by sfox

"he has made the easy part of PSH and nothing else"

You got to wonder if it?s so easy why have no H3?s even attempted it and only a few H2?s have made it up the quote ?easy part??

Not saying that it didn?t make it but tell me again where I keep saying it made it to the top?

[HummerNewbie]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

Not saying that it didn?t make it but tell me again where I keep saying it made it to the top?

Can not see where this could be construed as anything but saying it did but not in so many words.

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

In case you missed it, the FJ did Potato Salad and didn't break...

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

You got to wonder if it?s so easy why have no H3?s even attempted it

Where do you get that no H3s have attempted nor completed PS? What makes you think one hasn't?

[DTHVLY]

You can argue semantics all you want while you?re at it why don?t you check to see what the meaning of the word ?is? is and maybe we can figure out if Clinton really got sucked off in the Oval Office. Mean while the FJ has done more off road in three months than the H3 has done in over a year yet many here still try to marginalize it by labeling it a mall cruiser, KY Cruiser etc....

BTW-Not that you?re going to believe it but it did make it to the top; A-TRAC is a very good thing.

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

Mean while the FJ has done more off road in three months than the H3 has done in over a year

Give me a fukkin break! Holy troll statement!

Maybe I missed it, but have you ever explained exactly why you have such a hard-on for the FJ.

[NEOCON1]

Originally Posted by Sewie

Give me a fukkin break! Holy troll statement!

Maybe I missed it, but have you ever explained exactly why you have such a hard-on for the FJ.

X2 man you should stay over on your KY forum since you love H3's so much . who ever said H3's broke on tater salad ?

test drivers went right up it you DUMBA$$ check out the hummer test drivers pix if you really want to know what testing is .

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

BTW-Not that you?re going to believe it but it did make it to the top; A-TRAC is a very good thing.

Not according to the owner

[Wisha Haddan H3]

I definitely think the FJ is in the same ballpark as the H3. On-road, the FJ wins ... but off-road it's all H3.

I test drove 2 FJ Cruisers a couple of weeks ago. The engine pulls strong and the driving position is very comfortable. Lots of headroom, shoulder room and elbow room (similar to the H3), and plenty of room between the gas and brake pedals (more than in the H3).

The H3 feels more solid around corners, has fewer blind spots, and has 4 real doors, but those are the H3's only advantages in town. The FJ kicked its butt in acceleration, passing, and on-highway agility because of its more powerful drivetrain. Both the FJ's 5-spd auto and 6-spd manual shifted smooth as silk.

Even so, I have no doubts about the H3's ability to smoke the FJ offroad. Its stance, clearance, skid plates (FJ's are plastic), wheel travel, torque/crawl ratio and turning radius (despite the FJ's smaller wheelbase) are all superior to the FJ. Once the 2007 H3s come out with the 3.7L I-5, its on-road performance will only improve.

As far as looks go, the H3 wins hands down. The FJ looks like a frikkin eggmobile I'm definitely getting a 2007 H3.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

Mean while the FJ has done more off road in three months than the H3 has done in over a year yet many here still try to marginalize it by labeling it a mall cruiser, KY Cruiser etc....

Now, that's just being stupid. To my knowledge the H3 has been, en masse to every major trail/ORV park in the US on more than one occasion. You post a bunch of pics of non-owners running some trails and the one or two others in the world that have done something and have the ridiculous balls to make that comment.

Oops, sorry. My bad. After further checking that does indeed fall in-line with nearly every other comment you've made here. So, it's nothing new for you.