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05-09-2003, 06:36 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MaLLHPPR:
I have to say you guys crack me up!
I think the 2nd best part of this forum is the unintentional zinging of each other as well as the goofy stories. You guys make this site fun as well as interesting!  <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Kim,
If goofy stories crack you up, I have a million of em...
So where do you "stand" on the issue... For or against? You say you aren't going to get a gauge, but are you really sure? Don't make the same mistake I made and decide too quickly...
I would imagine that the instant feedback that you offer to your husband while he is driving offroad --- with you acting in place of the gauge --- is superior! I know that screaming and fingernails digging in my arm always gets my attention...
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05-01-2003, 05:07 PM
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Hey guys, I just bought a tilt gauge off E-bay and it is pretty good for the price.
I am buying a second to place on the side of the OH console for pitch. The pic shows placing one for roll on the back side of the OH console...great for those with a sunroof and the short OH console. I mounted mine for roll between the 2 front air vents...perfect.
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05-14-2003, 12:48 PM
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Ok Ed......no space between Hummer and Man for you!
And I'm sure Phil won't revoke your "TheGood"
Ric
Glasses...what glasses?
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05-04-2003, 02:39 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PhilD:
Yes and no. Many people do not know what a 40% slope feels like and want to stay within the safe working limits of the vehicle. Therefore a gauge which tells them the slope, is actually of great help and may well indeed prevent someone from rolling over.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Very good point PhilD, I hadn't thought of that. My experience with such analog gauges is that as you bounce around, the gauge flucuates so wildly that it is most difficult to get a reading, especially if you are turtling.
But without a gauge, I might "think" that I was really pushing the envelope when only driving across a 30% slope... Maybe I will install the gauge just to check the accuracy of my "pucker". Who knows, maybe I've only been daring to take on those wicked 20% slopes?
Have you exceeded the 40% mark with your H2 yet? After looking at the various Lev-o-gage models that Sun Company lists, I think I will opt for the Model 3 that reads up to 26 degrees. If I max that out, it will be more than ENOUGH for me, as my pucker gauge will quickly confirm?
Thanks for the heads up on the gauge...
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05-13-2003, 05:44 PM
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And you might get a space between Hummer and Man!
Sorry if the pics were too blury for you to see, but one was of the big fuzzy dice (roll) and the other, (pitch), real raccoon tails....forget your glasses?
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05-13-2003, 06:45 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hum2:
And you might get a space between Hummer and Man!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What's wrong with fuzzy raccoon tails?
I take it all back! Please, just don't take my "Good" away... then I would just be the Hummer Man. Argggh! A fate worse than death?
And here I thought the dice & tails comment scored a ten on the "humor" gauge...
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05-01-2003, 06:34 PM
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TBarrow:
Please e-mail me where I can get one for $8.95.
I found a Marine shop that had them for $9.95 but they wanted 6.95 for shipping. The E-Bay one is $13.75 including shipping.
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05-04-2003, 03:04 PM
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The best guages are oil filled and should not be disturbed by the "BUMPS & RATTLES". This guage on EBAY is quality.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2413126233&category=67 73
I own one and it works very well. The most important thing to remember on a a side slope is don't be afraid at any moment to turn down hill if you feel you are over the limit of incline performance. Although turning into the fall or turning down hill seems unnatural for some it is often times the only way to save yourself from a role.
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05-02-2003, 11:47 AM
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I bought mine at my local 4 wheel parts wholesalers store front for 8.95. I want to better understand what a true 40 degree side slope feels and looks like.
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05-02-2003, 10:17 PM
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On a visit to a Los Angeles Wal-Mart store, I saw 8-10 different types in stock. My guess is they are generally used by RVs or trailers. I did not buy any because they all looked too "RV" or "trailer" styled. But prices were right, cheap. The one in Hum2's photo looks nice.
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05-13-2003, 04:28 PM
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05-02-2003, 03:16 PM
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I did not realize there was a difference. 4 wheel parts wholesalers is located at www.4wheelparts.com
They do not have it on there website but in there stores. Call them at thyere 800 number and have them look it up for you. I could not find a marine store or any other at first.
This is a link to the manufacturer. They have a % slope also towards the bottom.
http://www.suncompany.net/Industrial...o-g/index.html
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[This message was edited by TBarrow on 05-02-03 at 10:25 AM.]
[This message was edited by TBarrow on 05-02-03 at 10:28 AM.]
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05-19-2003, 10:58 PM
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I put mine in to scare the passengers -but most newbies think it came with the H2, and everybody comments on it. Cost me $20 at 4-wheel parts, plus I added H2 graphics. [Please ignore the foam backed tape -it was already in place bfore I saw you could see the tape. Yuck. ] It would be completely worthless in reality -the ball/oil gauges are the only accurate ones -but I agree with previous posts - the stupidity of watching the gauge as you flip down the hill would be priceless.
Anyway, here's a pic:
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05-02-2003, 02:23 PM
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Phil:
West Marine e-mailed a response to my request. Their "master" catalog has the gage for $10.99 plus $5.95 shipping, still higher than the E-bay guy who sells them for $13.75 including shipping. The closest store to me is Milwaukee or Denver...8 hours away....NG.
Thanks for the info.
I will eventually mark my 2 gages with a line showing 60% vert slope, and 40% side slope...definitely not 40/60 degrees...ouch!
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05-04-2003, 04:02 AM
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Inclinometers are cute, but of little practical value. When my H2 is on a 40% slope, the last thing I will be doing is watching the inclinometer... instead, I will be paying attention to where I am going to steer to keep from tipping the rest of way over.
But, maybe if your passenger isn't experiencing sufficiently distracting pucker power, they can enjoy watching the gauge?
Ed
[This message was edited by TheGoodHummerMan on 05-03-03 at 11:29 PM.]
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05-04-2003, 04:37 PM
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As any good NAVY SEAL will tell you, your posistion in the universe is your 6th sense. You must always be aware of the grade before it becomes an issue. A diver never goes under and uses anything more then 75% of his air. Even in hostile missions the instruction is to never go below 25% before RTB - (return to base).
Any good Marine foll0ws the same code - Don't dispense all of your munitions. If a trail is that dangerous you must walk it first. On many trail rides we take baking soda and mark areas of concern or OIL -(OVER INCLINE LIMIT) then based on the drivers and spotters joint skill & experience we proceed.
The basic rule of the trail (AND POSTED AT THE MAIN GATE TO THE RUBICON - THIS NATIONS BEST TRAIL) Donot outdrive your experience!!
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05-13-2003, 04:28 PM
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Here are my install pics:
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05-04-2003, 05:29 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Hummer Man:
"As any good NAVY SEAL will tell you... do not outdrive your experience!!"<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Took the liberty of editing your quote just a little, but your posting was really quite interesting, although unintelligible. How exactly do these comments relate to that silly little gauge? Are these gauges issued to all Navy Seals? What do Navy Seals have to do with 4-wheeling? Do you carry a gauge with you while walking the trail and marking the OIL's? Now that would make sense!
Does the "don't outdrive" basic rule "over-rule" the gauge?
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05-09-2003, 11:41 AM
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Gee...my whole idea for putting in a guage, (I will put one in for pitch and role) is for fun. I'm not going to try and roll the vehicle but it will be nice to see where my comfort zone really resides with actual inclination. I had one slope I got into (slid into due to being in sand) and was extremely uncomfortable, I thought for sure I was going to roll. The engineer in me said 40% but it felt like 100% (45 degrees. It would have been nice to know approx. (I didn't have my transit with me). I will have both installed be fore my next event May 24-25.
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05-09-2003, 04:23 PM
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Ric,
After all the discussion and reading the various viewpoints and opinions, I think I have changed my mind about how these gauges are basically useless... Just like you point out, they might provide interesting data when off-roading. Also, they would actually serve a useful purpose if, during a walk-about--- checking the trail ahead--- you could take the gauge out of the H2 and approximate the hill's slope BEFORE driving on it.
Personally, the gauges that show 0 to 45 degrees seem less useful than the gauges calibrated from 0 to 30 degrees. If you had the second gauge and the ball bearing goes off the scale, you could just say that it is "TOO" steep?
I think that the lower range of 0 to 30 would also make it easier to more accurately read what the slope actually is too...
Maybe I will use velcro to attach the gauge so I can remove it for gauging slopes while walking around?
Now I have to find out where the 0 to 30 degree gauge was available...
Ed
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