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10-28-2005, 02:19 PM
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If someone wrote it, you must believe it.
Over the past few years, during normal times, how many times have you heard about a shortage of fuel? You haven't. We produce enough fuel so the crap about increase demand being the culprit here is BS.
That dumb article might have been applicatory 15 years ago, but today there is a monopoly of sorts in the oil industry. All the industry needs is a remote excuse to artificially inflate the fuel prices even if that excuse doesn't come to fruition.
The fact that fuel prices can rise in anticipation of a hurricane or something happening with the war shows that there is something alltogether different than supply and demand controlling prices.
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10-27-2005, 10:25 PM
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By the way, what movie are we seeing??  
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10-27-2005, 11:55 PM
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Costco was the cheapest here in northern Cal.
In San Fran, it was $2.99, then up here in Novato, it was $2.79, then a bit further up in Petaluma it was $2.65
I notice that as soon as the commodities market clicks up a cent, it is reflected at the pump in 3 seconds. However, if it the market goes down 30 cents, the price at the pump doesn't go down for 3 weeks! $##$@@!#
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10-30-2005, 08:27 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FreeorDie2:
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JEEEZUS!!!!
SHUT THE FAWK UP ALREADY!!!
GET OVER IT! YOUR 3 POSTS IN A ROW JUST MAKES YOU LOOK DESPERATE AND MORE STUPID. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Let me tell you what F'wad, you can kiss my ass after you pull your head out of Paragon's lap.
You don't like it? Tough sh*t.
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10-30-2005, 09:32 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FreeorDie2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FreeorDie2:
Let me tell you what F'wad, you can kiss my ass after you pull your head out of Paragon's lap.
You don't like it? Tough sh*t. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Another wannabe e-tough guy.
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Not at all. . .
Now the troops I led over a period of 25 years, they were real tough guys. . .and I'm not some pussy who is going to put up with a bunch of e-crap from anyone. I don't have to put up with that kind of stuff when people are standing in front of me. . .and there's no one on this forum that would try it, not only with me, but with anyone, if they ave an ounce of common sense. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You're ghey, aren't you.
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10-31-2005, 09:20 PM
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That pic shaggy posted looks like it was a link to the image on Alec's site and may have been deleted from there, not deleted from here. But I still don't know the answer to your question about other images that were uploaded as 'attachments' here.
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10-30-2005, 10:19 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FreeorDie2:
Now the troops I led over a period of 25 years, they were real tough guys. . . </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
For a guy who blew real tough guys over a period of 25 years, you're quite the thin skinned Nancy over some light ribbing on the internet. 
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10-29-2005, 03:42 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CslRkH2:
Gas Taxes are fixed per gallon and not based on a percentage. So when gas prices rise, the gov't doesn't gain.
When a company makes more than Microsoft & Walmart COMBINED in a QTR when they were complaining about damage to facilities and BLAH Freakin BLAH, then I'll call BULLSH!T </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I can’t believe people are so freaked out about big profits. It’s the American way. That is why business exist, to maximize profits. I just say they are well run corporations.
Now we have dumb ass members of congress taking about a windfall profits tax. Isn’t that great, we are going to let the government decide when a company makes too much money.
If you don’t like the price of gas don’t buy it.
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10-31-2005, 08:31 PM
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Oops.... Alec, read the PM. I just figured out how to see the cache and who made the administration changes and I am not sure he ever actually said it WASN'T him.
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10-31-2005, 01:09 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
The thing is, we have the technology nowadays to help alleviate alot of this but it is just taking time to get production from this new technology brought online. Coal Gasification Technology for Natural Gas, Canadian Tar Sands for Crude Oil, LNG imports for Natural Gas, etc...
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We can use Coal Gasification to make diesel fuel also.
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10-30-2005, 09:11 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FreeorDie2:
Let me tell you what F'wad, you can kiss my ass after you pull your head out of Paragon's lap.
You don't like it? Tough sh*t. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Another wannabe e-tough guy.
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Not at all. . .
Now the troops I led over a period of 25 years, they were real tough guys. . .and I'm not some pussy who is going to put up with a bunch of e-crap from anyone. I don't have to put up with that kind of stuff when people are standing in front of me. . .and there's no one on this forum that would try it, not only with me, but with anyone, if they ave an ounce of common sense.
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10-31-2005, 07:51 PM
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Locked? Not anymore. 
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10-31-2005, 01:14 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMERDOGG:
Price is merely a reflection of supply/demand balances regardless what anyone says. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Dogg, respectfully this is simply not true. When the price at the pump can be raised due to the fear of future "production" disruption, this is not being controlled by supply/demand.
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Is Exxon/Mobile or any oil company that ones raising the prices at the individual stations. Do you really think BP were the ones that raised prices to $6.00 a gallon. Just because it has a major oil sign out front it doesn't mean that that major oil sets the price.
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10-27-2005, 10:11 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jennifer:
Hellooo Paragon??? You're talking about me like I'm not even here!  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You're not here, there's no pictures.
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10-31-2005, 01:23 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by FreeorDie2:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
First it doesn't address the price at the pump at all and secondly, I think you must be above your pay grade here. "wins the argument." Is that what you are trying to do?  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
And when you say that everything previously written doesn't address the price at the pump, you are not making any sense. Do you know what goes into the price at the pump? Everything involved in recovering, refining and distributing gasoline down to and including the salaries of those work at the gas station. And I'm not sure if it was you or someone else who mentioned it, but gas stations do indeed have to price gas based on the next tanker load, not the one just delivered. If a tanker load costs $10K and is priced at the pump so that all overhead is paid with $10K left over to buy the next load and it costs $11K, the station owner is going to be in the hole.
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It was me. And damn if you are not right on with that. I guess Paragon didn't read that post.
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10-27-2005, 02:46 PM
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Lets not forget to add that the Exxon/Mobil plant to Houston was shut down for a week or 2. I was talking with some oil companies 2 weeks ago they might not get 100% allocations but rather 60%. Can you imagine going to get your oil changed and the guy tells you sorry, where out of your oil.
Our local gas company has even sent out letters to large (Commercial) accounts tell them they can not guarentee that their gas wont be shut off due to insufficent supply. So if you think oil is bad gas is much worse.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bondage:
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Pad. Pad. Pad. Pad. Pad whore.

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ps - glad to hear you are feeling better. I was afraid you'd cough up a testicle or something......

Does my infatuation with Jennifer make me gay? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Did you ever confirm her..... ummmm... his.... well.... shim's orientation?  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I am laughing so hard right now there are tears in my eyes. Okay, here's the deal....he/she may or not be a dood - but if he/she IS a dood, he/she is a good enough female impersonator to make me gay. He/she was far too much of a lady for me to go sticking my hand down his/her pants, and I am too much of a gentleman. All I can say is this - and Jen, are you listening?....I'd really like to solve the mystery.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sfox:
Have you been paying attention to their quarterly profit reports for the last couple of years? They have recorded RECORD profits alomst every quarter for quite some time now.
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So what? Let me get this straight. . . Those who invest in Exxon Mobile pony up the dough to do the research, do the drilling, get the oil, refine it, and get it to market. They take all the risks and the company does all the work. For their risk and effort, when demand is high (and it's never been higher), they get to charge what the market will pay (and India and China will PAY!).
But you, doing nothing to find, drill, recover, refine, or retail the oil somehow should get it cheap? The Exxon investors should forego their profit so you can drive around all you want without spending more money?
Man oh man. . . you must be VERY special!
Either that or a socialist. . .
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10-31-2005, 05:46 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ckhagman:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Actually, I think he owns a gas station in some po-dunk town in a far-away corner who doesn't even have self-pay pumps outside. That's about the only explanation that could be had for this ignorant line of thinking. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Actually I have heard it from industry insiders. And as much as I would like to own a gas station I do not. Plus competition is too high.  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I owned one... Hated it. 
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