I BET THEY WISH THEY HAD AN H2!

[JSB]

Isn't this funny looking back. All the testosterone gets going, and people start lashing out with out thinking. Then we stop and think...what the heck am I doing...Thank god we're not a couple of countries...the war would have been over by now...and we were arguing about what? I vote to close this thread before some one reads one or two pages of it, and gets offended and throws their reactions out.

[DRTYFN]

Next time ask for Brian in parts. Do me a favor and look right at him and then say "where'd you get that bad haircut?" he'll know that i put you up to it.
As for f*ck, i need f to provide me with the ok/dare/permission to proceed. that way when the **** starts flying i've got an umbrella. i'm actually thinking about giving the hacker free reign on this little ****. more fun. plus- plausible deniability.

[DennisAJC]

What the @#$*?????

To be challenged by Jeeps or Discos in one thing, very debatable...BUT TOYOTAS???????????

Who's next? KIA?, YUGO?, HYUNDAI???

I see desperate kids trying to fit in. It's too funny. Kinda sad.

Stock vs. Stock = We win
Power = You lose
Ability = You lose
Looks = Of course we win
Tug of war = HAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Head on = "That toyota had heart "

Now shall we get into modified stock? Hmmm.

Remember, take the money issue out of the equation, and it's clearer to understand.

Thank-you! Come again! BUH-BYE!

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[DRTYFN]

Dos,
I've seen yodas bust their **** up just like everybody else.
New Year's day of this year I took my H2 out to Brown's Camp to try it out. It was torrential rain that day so I wasn't sure if it'd be much of a day. On my way up to Fire Break 5 I had to ask for directions a couple of times since I'd never been there before. All of the jeepers, yodas and everybody else looked at me like I was crazy to think about taking the "mom-mobile" 4xing. By the way, I saw both a built Jeep and a built Yoda getting strapped back down the main road. When i finally got to the trailhead there were 6-7 other vehicles there making plans to go up. They all looked at me incredulously like there was no way I was even going to get up the first part of the trail to the first little rock garden. I followed them w/o airing down or dropping it into low. when we got up to the rock garden we all parked down the trail and got out to watch each vehicle try to get through the rocks. Remember I said it was raining? Full on pissing would be a better description. Most of the ground out here is sort of like clay, so when it gets wet it gets really slippery. I watched as the other rigs each spent a minimum of 15-20 minutes slipping, sliding, pounding, grinding and bouncing around trying to go about 50 feet. when the last yoda finally got through everyone looked at me and asked if I was gonna try to get through. I said of course and turned to walk back down the trail to my rig. I could hear them softly laughing and talking about the "Tahoe". I got in and put it in low and engaged the rear locker and headed up to the rocks. Short of the story- i made it over the rocks in about 3 minutes without all of the commotion the built-ups had. They were all standing there with their mouths hanging open in disbelief that this "mom-mobile" had just crawled over what they had almost had to winch over. They all had to crowd around and actually get a look at this vehicle that they had all written off as a "mall taxi". All of our vehicles(Hummer, Yodas, Jeeps, ect) have their strengths & weaknesses. How would you like it if the guys that are hardcore quad riders came to your site and started ****-talking you because they say you can't go where they go? Or people with regular cars wondering what's the matter with you for driving such an "outlandish tinker toy" on the road?

[This message was edited by DRTYFN on 09-02-03 at 12:21 AM.]

[JSB]

I would imagine he has posted here, because this brainless post has made its way to other forums to show the ignorance of the GM Suburban-H2 community. Not the Hummer community. Now it has stumbled it's way to me. God I feel like my brain has been robbed of intelligence after reading this. The dude with the jacked up H2...it looks cool, can it function? That remains to be seen, but it looks cool. Why doesn't a Mod close this thread..since you can't close your hoods with out cracking something, and we can be done with this. I'm still baffled, as to why Hummer would let GM put their name on a Suburban...cough...I mean H2. Now back to some real conversation. Thanks...I had a great time, but I must go before some one see me here.

[kling-on]

do we think these guys wheel the same as us ... do we think a rockcrawler can do this ... I know nothing I've ever owned would do that those things have 50 and 60 in tires and they're under water not my thing but it make the point



82 FJ60 ARB bull bar 12k Warn, 4 in BDS ....waiting on more green stuff...

low riders want SWITCHES..... 4 wheelers want SHIFTERS

Link to pics
http://www.texasoffroad.net/galleries/members/albun39

GIT-R-DONE!!!!!!!!

[SJ]

crash:

The parts content is almost entirely American. The throttle sensor is from Hitachi, but you can source the technology and engineering from right here in the States.

There are exceptions to the rule. I'm aware that there's cross-pollinization among Ford and Mazda; GM and Isuzu; and others. However, we must look at the absolute when it comes to the H2:

- Designed by Americans
- Corporate base in America
- Product Control is American
- Produced in an American Factory
- Majority of Parts Content is American
- Revenue goes to an American Corp. [GM]

Toyota:

- Proliferate a Japanese product
- Possible Assembly in USA
- Some American Parts, but Mostly Japanese
- Market Share Goes to Foreign Nameplate
- Ultimate Control is in Japan
- Engineering and Design may be Partially in USA, but foundation is in Japan
- Global Measures view "Toyota Brand" as a Japanese entity. Example: Businessweek releases figures and Toyota counts as Japanese, while GM and Ford are American.

[dostacos]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OLE YLLR:
SO WHATS YOUR POINT IN GETTING IN TO THIS FORUM? SOUNDS LIKE YOUR JUST TRYING TO STIR IT UP. I SMELL A TROLL!!!! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


No flame, no troll, just interested in seeing one actually wheel off road

[JRT]

You have a 22RET, I have the regular old 22RE, 4 banger with EFI. Gears are everything. The only thing I've added to the rig since those pics are a set of MRT 36 Bolt Beadlocks

You know Mike, I've got an extra front housing and I've been looking for another SAS to do

d

[SJ]

JSB:

I was strongly opposed to NAFTA. Yes, I'm aware that GM and even Dodge assemble in Mexico. My vehicles were all assembled here in America. I have one vehicle from Michigan, the H2 from Indiana, etc.

The import vs. domestic issue was not started by me, but I will certainly defend my American nameplates, as I have pride in our products.

Toyota happens to assemble their Tacomas in Fremont, CA. This facility is close to where I was raised, so I certainly apreciate the jobs that NUMMI has opportuned for locals. My issue is with the trade deficit, and not giving market share to foreign nameplates, among a few reasons that I don't buy Japanese.

It is my personal choice to purchase what I will (as is your right) and my personal choice to defend American products when people come here and stir the pot. I'm not angry or upset about any of this; just stating my case.

End of Story.

[This message was edited by SJ on 09-03-03 at 08:58 AM.]

[David in Germany]

Oh My god! some people show so much arrogance!
I spent 11 years in the US Army Transportation Corps and spent most of that time (Working) on the Hummers that were assigned to me. Not to nock the grocery getters but to wheel a hummer is like certain repairs to come! My fist hummer problems was when I was stationed in Califonia and hit a small bump leading to a cattle crossing at about 25 mph.... the truck had about 25k miles on it and broke an axel!
I have taken my stock (except for tires) 87 4runner to places that hummers cannot climb ( watched them try) and I know that toyota DID NOT COPY a ford for the tacoma design "SJ" whatever you are smoking, Will you share? as per ford Most parts are currently manufactured by Mazda and mitsubishi.... Huh did you know that? Oh and what did the head of Chevy put out at the beginning of this year? Oh Yeah it was the admitance that the past products have been crap but they promise to do better "oh What a Campagn"!!! now there was a quote about ford assisting Jag in the new productions.... Do you realize since this has happened the customer satisfaction rates have droped lower than ever? and Oh, by the way GM is now majority owner of Volvo and the customer satisfaction has followed Jag's customers but have you noticed that TOYOTA has stayed strong? I have! so Your hummer may be a great family vehicle an it may be a better than normal (stock) than the typical truck. but for offroading all have there strong points but A Toyota with mild mods Vrs a Hummer with mild mods... My money is on the Yota. I personaly would never own another American Truck and I served My USA in the military so you and I could have a different oppinion.

Sorry if it seems long winded but open your minds to other options people!
SJ, I still wana know what you are smoking!
David

Can't we all just get along!?

[SJ]

Roy:

Yep, my son already likes American trucks and he has a Stetson and boots to match. It's not something I expect you to relate to up in Canada. I love your country, but hate Socialism and Chretien, so we can't agree on everything in life.

My family came to this country and I thank God for the opportunity given to me in America. I believe in our products and I take pride in owning them.

When all is said and done - ALL of you Toyota guys need to come here in a whole different tone. None of what you say holds a piss of weight with me if you're going to be an a**hole. That's just how it is - I'm old-school and I don't play grab a** like some of you clowns are doing by coming here and disrespecting hard-working people that earned their right to buy what they want. I have no respect for that sort of person. Keep it respectful and all the best to you.

[SJ]

Rock Yoda:

I think your response was aimed at me, not JSB. The tone and context of your post were NOT joking [I went back and read it again], but you can play that card now and I'll take your half-assed explanation for what it's worth. If you look at the timing of when you chimed in and how you phrased everything, a rational person would take it as an insult.

Given that my family suffered through communism and not a single one of them ever joined the party - I do take offense. My family lost their land and prominent jobs because they didn't join the "People's Party."

On the topic of Beer: I like Czech, American, and Canadian all at the same time [Staropramen, LEV, Urquell, Rogue, Labatt, Red Hook] for the record - far better than German beer IMO!

[argonaut]

That smashed up H2 hit five cars, and then a big dodge ram before coming to a stop. We have seen that pic posted on this forum by trolls at least 15 times. Run a search for the article. it is in the anchorage daily news. I guess the guy blacked out/ had a seizure. Apparently he owned the Hummer dealership in Anchorage.

'03 H2 Sunset Orange No mods
'03 BMW M3 Convertible
'02 BMW M5

[JRT]

another

[BillyRoyBob]

Maybe thats the problem with so called "red blooded americans" its called nationalism, and its just as bad as racism, you think that because its not american made its no good. I think the resale values speak for themselves.

Were bigger and were on top, if this was prison you'de be our bitch!

[DennisAJC]

Yes, just watch.

H2's on the landscape waiting while the Toyotas don't show because they deliver pizza for a living.

Just as silly as my 4 year old son daring me to spank him. Well? Do you punk? Do you feel lucky?

TAKE THE MONEY ISSUE OUT OF THE EQUATION.Then you'll understand.


He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[DiscoDancingRover]

drtyfn I see you found my picture!

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"

[dostacos]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by OLE YLLR:
HEY YOTAS, WOULD'NT IT BE MORE ON THE LEVEL TO COMPARE AN H2 TO TOYOTA SEQUOIA? nope, we consider that a mall runner too. :-) WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN SUV. AS FOR DOS TACOS, WHEN WE GO OUT ON OUR NEXT OUTING I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO INCLUDE YOU IN OUR TRIP, WE ARE JUST A BUNCH OF HARD WORKING INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE TO GO OFFROADING AND IT'S OPENED TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME ALONG. I DON'T LIKE TO TALK SMACK ABOUT ANYBODYS RIG. OUR SOLE PURPOSE IS TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE GOOD OUTDOORS AND FRIENDS.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are on, I am sure I can get a couple of guys to join up.

and remember when the ELVish wars get hot we will have your back!

[SJ]

JSB:

No offense buddy - I can take a joke and I'm only a hard-ass when trolls come here. I've never had ill words with any of the "regulars" and sincere folks on this board, so far as I can recall. God bless your family member(s) that is/are serving.

Heineken works for me too!