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09-03-2003, 11:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Portland, OR
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Where is Ed? i haven't seen a post from him in a long while. maybe he's like MAC and had to go on a long business trip and forgot about us. Come back Ed, we need you now...
'03 H2 Sunset Orange No mods
'03 BMW M3 Convertible
'02 BMW M5
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09-05-2003, 04:46 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 609
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As soon as beers are mentioned I am in, but no domestic crap. Nice microbrews please...
'03 H2 Sunset Orange No mods
'03 BMW M3 Convertible
'02 BMW M5
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08-31-2003, 06:13 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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wow...and you think an h2 could drive through that? Get real, and build a real 4x4.
Definitely not an H2!!!
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Definitely not an H2!!!
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09-01-2003, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Hey CronusTRD
Your right your 1950's straight axle design is the best. Smooth ride, no bump steer, no tracking problems. It is truly a shame that every truck manufacturer builds most of their 4x4 trucks with IFS front suspension. They are so stupid. Even the H1 which has IFS front and rear does so bad offroad that it is the vehicle of choice of the US military. You know the other real cheezy off road 4x4 trucks that run IFS is all the top finishers of the BAJA 500. If you like straight axles run them. Just don't expect me to use that rough ridin Junk.
Dan from Alabama
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09-04-2003, 04:04 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bryanccfshr:
I was wondering the same. Arlington is notoriously vacant of legal wheeling areas.
After the last Texas bill restricting access to waterways(the Slab for example) there is not much public land for wheeling anymore in most of central and north Texas.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That's what I thought too, but I was hoping Detonate could shed some light on the topic.
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09-02-2003, 01:10 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: VA
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Hello H2 Owners. I am a former Chapter President of a quite large Toyota Tacoma off road organization. I live in Virginia, and would be interested to see the off road capabilities of an H2. Even better would be to compare a Tacoma to an H2. There is a favorite playground to a few of us East Coast offroaders, which would be a perfect spot to hold this test. I would actually like to see a fair comparison and see the results. Any takers. However the places that we like to play, we usually get pin stripping and metal damage due to rocks, trees, and hills.
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09-03-2003, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: CC. Texas
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As I keep saying, we are all on the same side here. Let's get out and wheel some. Enjoy the outdoors.
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09-05-2003, 03:16 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: CC. Texas
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Phil,
I would love to hook up with a properly equiped rig and competent wheeler to play at Sea pines with. Alot of throttle jockeys play out ther though.
Good luck on the trip, I am always working when these events are scheduled. 
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I shan't show you the pictures of me getting stuck out at Sea Pines  But needless to say I've had to use my Pull Pal a good few times out there.
Yes, I'll be wheeling at Big Bend. But I'm not looking forward to the drive out there.[/quote]
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09-04-2003, 01:58 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Northern California
Posts: 403
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Detonate:
You read my mind - exactly. I see tons of lifted Toyotas that probably never leave the pavememt.
I've retired to ignore the trolls at this point. They came here to spew insults and it speaks volumes to their character as individuals.
The day I let a Toyota fanatic make me feel bad for buying American is the day I denounce my American citizenship - NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN! 
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09-04-2003, 12:16 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Arlington, TX, USA
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In my opinion Toyota's are American Cars.
Right after we bombed the **** out of Japan and they surrendered, they became mini-America.
But Toyota's still suck. My boss has a Tacoma, and me and him went off roading. After about 2 hours, I got tired of literally towing him on the trail and decided to tow him back.
-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder
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09-02-2003, 02:05 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Northern California
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Rock Yoda:
Many of us don't care about rock crawling and technical wheeling; we're into enjoying the outdoors and trails. How about you transport 6 people and all their gear on a long road trip? I live in the mountains and the H2 does its job very well. My Chevy truck does the blue collar work and it's AMERICAN - something Toyota will never be.
I can't relate to sell-outs that bash American products. It's a free-market, so buy what you want, but you're a sorry individual for bashing American brands. I'll keep my Hummer and Chevy and you can wheel in Japan if you love them so much.
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09-02-2003, 03:06 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Southern California
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chris:
They use 110s. My mistake I didn't write exactly what I ment to say. I know they don't use Range Rover. And one of the US Generals did use a Discovery in Iraq.
no accounting for taste,eh. ;-)<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
the 90s and 110s are great, we just cannot buy them new here anymore.
Most of the wheeling I do the H2 would not ever be able to go because of it's size. I did the Hi Desert Round Up this year and the trail I was on was so narrow I barely made it, the hummers would still be out there stuck between a rock and well, more rocks. At our last So Cal TTORA trail run in big Bear we had about 50 trucks show up from totally stock to solid axle rock crawlers and by-pass shocked prerunners.
Still I would love to go off roading with a bunch of hummers some time
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09-02-2003, 04:56 PM
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Location: Northern California
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by David in Germany:
... and I know that toyota DID NOT COPY a ford for the tacoma design "SJ" whatever you are smoking, Will you share? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
If you want to insult me and try to analyze my post, then get it right. I said TUNDRA - the 3/4 size Toyota truck. Yes, it is a rip-off of the Ford F-150. The Ford F-150 is the best selling vehicle and Toyota copied the design. Look at even the exterior design and it's blatantly obvious.
We're not here to debate IMPORT vs. DOMESTIC; it's an old topic that I'm not going to get into. I'm fully aware of the association with Ford-Mazda; GM-Saab; Ford-Volvo; GM-Isuzu, etc.
It is FORD that owns Volvo, not GM; so once again, you stand corrected!
I'm not going to get involved with immature banter with phrases such as "what are you smoking." You're the guest here and I'd suggest you go to a chat room if you're bored and feel the need to trash talk with other kids.
Enjoy Your Toyota [Japan] and I'll enjoy my Chevrolet [USA] - that's the absolute to this whole topic. 
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09-02-2003, 05:12 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Northern California
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Roy:
No, I don't see the issue as purely USA vs. Japan. However, when people come here and are intentionally rude; starting in with negative comments, then I'll defend American products that have served me well.
I hate Toyotas [I actually owned one a long time ago], but I don't go to a Toyota web forum and berate the owners of said products. I respect that each person is afforded their own purchase decisions.
So, the moral of the story is that if a**holes don't come here and start bashing us at our own forum, then we won't be inclined to tell them to f**k off! It's really that simple.
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09-02-2003, 02:40 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Southern California
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chris:
So why is it the Ranger's use Land Rovers? And yes there are Range Rovers in africa buddy. Range Rovers have been around for around 30 years. The Range Rovers are good off-road, well minus the whole 19 inchers. The sidewall is too small, other then that, they are great.
I don't watch CNN, I watch Fox News
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Are you saying the SAS is using the CAR range rover? the last time I looked they still used modified Defenders [a great off road truck]
as for the news Fox has had pictures of the double cabs in use as well,
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09-02-2003, 02:25 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Northern California
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Buckeye:
The new Ford F-150 is absolutely stunning. Toyota will copy it for their next Tundra, as they openly did when designing the current model.
I like both GM and Ford, but happen to have owned mostly GM products with excellent results. I've had a Chevy K5 Blazer that went 260k miles before I finally sold her. No problems to speak of!
People don't mention how Ford cleaned-up Jaguar and turned it into a better car; they're only concerned with the negatives, and I admit that there still are some weak spots that GM and Ford need to work on.
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09-02-2003, 05:14 PM
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Location: L.A. California
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Oh, by the way GM is now majority owner of Volvo and the customer satisfaction has followed Jag's customers but have you noticed that TOYOTA has stayed strong? I have! <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Wow, GM just bought Volvo and I thought Ford was the majority owner. Clearly you have been in Germany too long David by not even knowing which American mfg. owns volvo and quite frankly I don't believe your Hummer story either. Your are just part of the yoda gang that has decided to infiltrate our H2 forum. You are also in denial. Toyota DID copy Ford's design because it is the best selling full size pickup (duh). What would you do if you wanted to pick apart a market segment? I suggest you and the rest of the yoda gang head over to the chevy S10 or maybe the new Chevy Colorado forum where the playing field will be level, modify them all you want because I guarantee when the Chevy hits the trail it won't fall apart like this:
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09-02-2003, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Northern California
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Roy:
Let me try again, since you can't seem to grasp the simple concept:
1. I respect that we live in a free-market economy [even if you're in Canada, but I speak mostly of USA], therefore, I do NOT bash Toyotas or other foreign products. I wouldn't drive a Toyota, but I don't bash them and say they're "junk" or "weak."
2. You're the one coming to a HUMMER web site as a guest. I'm not on your Toyota Kyoto Pride site talking smack - understand the word etiquette?
3. Nice Signature - speaks volumes of how sincere you are in the sense of mature discussion here.
4. Nationalism comes in many shapes and forms and I never said that non-American products are garbage. You've made a loose assumption, like any one that opposes ILLEGAL immigration is racist. I don't buy this logic, as it's a "twist" on absolute reason.
5. If you come here with a positive and contributory attitude, then you'll see that we're nice people here. I don't have a problem with Toyotas or any brand that wants to share a trail or bog. I wouldn't drive a Japanese truck - that's my honest feedback; but at the same time, I'm a Capitalist. Therefore, I don't think sells of Toyota, Nissan, and the like should be altered by any one other than the consumer. 
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09-03-2003, 10:41 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Southern California
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
Dos,
Got any good 4xing pics? If so, share.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
http://community.webshots.com/user/dostacos100
should be coming back from MOAB with some good ones,
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09-03-2003, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Portland, OR
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OK guys, normally I am one to always feed the trolls because it makes me laugh to get them riled up, but I think this thread has gone too far for some reason. How about we don't respond (you too Chris) an dthese stupid idiots will go away and bother another forum. Just ignore them.
'03 H2 Sunset Orange No mods
'03 BMW M3 Convertible
'02 BMW M5
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