I BET THEY WISH THEY HAD AN H2!

[Spiffy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2slo4now:
Hey CronusTRD

Your right your 1950's straight axle design is the best. Smooth ride, no bump steer, no tracking problems. It is truly a shame that every truck manufacturer builds most of their 4x4 trucks with IFS front suspension. They are so stupid. Even the H1 which has IFS front and rear does so bad offroad that it is the vehicle of choice of the US military. You know the other real cheezy off road 4x4 trucks that run IFS is all the top finishers of the BAJA 500. If you like straight axles run them. Just don't expect me to use that rough ridin Junk.

Dan from Alabama<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

IFS does rule. Straight axels are out dated.

[This message was edited by Spiffy on 09-01-03 at 04:20 PM.]

[JSB]

Whoo...Finally done. I guess I'm on my way to the gallery. I'd like to see a man driving one of these for once.

[F*CK DA H2]

yes I wanna see!

[Ted]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SJ:
Ted:

Dennis AJC is going to roll down to Virginia to fulfill an Internet challenge. Don't hold your breath; he lives in Canada.

I'm done with Romper Room, see you guys later.



# of Japanese Cars/Trucks I own as of 9/2/03 = "0" and damn proud of it!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sure there is a Tacoma in Canada.

[RockYoda]

(aka DrNutt on TTORA)

Man you guys always seem to stir up s#it.. lol (TTORA)

Well i firmly believe that you build a truck for what you will MOSTLY use it for. Jeep built the Rubicon as mild trail runner and it does it execptional well. MB built its SUV for world wide distubtion in some of the worst daily driving conditions and although i have never seen one on the trails i'm sure it does well also. Toyota build its Tacoma as a all around daily driver with some very durable parts to last a hella long time. GM built the H2 as a easy to mild trail runner and as mall-runner. Its as easy as that. Each truck has its place and each will do very well in its designed area. There is no real compairson. I am also a firm beliver in "Its not what you buy its what you build!" (I would still love to see a stock Jeep Rubicon, MB G500, stock Toyota double cab, or an H2 follow me in my built 85.. )

[David in Germany]

Oh the shame of being corrected on who owns who.... Don't think I can live through this one.. Hey any one in germany with an H2 wana go wheeling? We could also throw the Land cruser into the mix If you would like to have another Toyota to compair the Hummer to. The land cruser has been quoted as being the most capable Production offroad vehical (by 4X4 Magazine If I remember correctly) anyone wana correct me on that? as per being a different vehical than the H1 ..... uh Ok if you believe..
In 89 the US army did a test of 7 Vehical manufactures for the replacement of the tired and uncapable blazer fleet (cuccv) and due the the bids recieved and the at the time the Pre production models dependability they purchased the Hummer. of course the Lambo version was the best over all but the price tag was too high and the thought that a soldier could exceed 140mph in an offroad vehical was just too much to deal with.... but once again. enjoy what you have! I know I do! By the way when you call us guests.... I am now a registered member! untill I am banned for giving the other side of the story.... Still any takers on a Germany wheeling trip?
David

Can't we all just get along!?

[Steve R]

82Crawler...

I'll meet ya for a challenge, but I'll take my buddies rig if you don't mind. According to him....YOU don't have a REAL Toyota.

Are you sure you still wanna try me?

[TacomaOwner]

Okay,
before this thread gets shut down I have something I need to say.

I think this could have been resolved back on page 2 or something. You guys enjoy what you drive regardless of our opinions and we'll drive what we enjoy regardless of your opinions.

Simple!
I have to say that I feel a bit bad as a Toyota owner that some of these guys have been so rude on your forum here. I know that should any of you guys come on to our forum we would have responded similarily.

I think everyone can agree with a percentage split that someone put up earlier. 90% driver 10% vehicle.

I don't see the need to put down the H2s any more than I see a reason for the Toyotas to be put down. On a forum that I'm on frequently a lot of the guys laugh about the DRIVER'S stupidity of H2s. Not because they drive H2s but because they thought they were invincible behind the wheel.

I personally would not purchase an H2 nor do I really like the fact that it's such a gas guzzler. But then again, I own a Tacoma so really, what right do I have to be critical (unless, of course, it's a soccer mom running errands only )?

So, on behalf of us REASONABLE Toyota owners, I'm sorry that some of these guys felt it necessary to jump in here and be rude on your turf. At the same time I am a bit offended at the anti-American sentiment that has been suggested. Unless your Native American and have used nothing but things you've made from your own hands I don't think you have the right to say that you're any more American than an immigrant that comes here in search of the American dream.

But then again, that's my opinion and another argument altogether.

I hope you guys are having as much fun with your H2s as I am with my 02' Tacoma!



Oh and for some of you hardcore H2 guys - don't take this move for a truce as some sort of victory. I'm just trying to be courteous on your turf so that you guys don't think all us Toyota owners are the same

[DRTYFN]

I'd really like to see the intake and exhaust manifolds!!!

[DiscoDancingRover]

I believe he was refering to the brand, that being toyota.

"Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"

[OLE YLLR]

HEY YOTAS, WOULD'NT IT BE MORE ON THE LEVEL TO COMPARE AN H2 TO TOYOTA SEQUOIA? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN SUV. AS FOR DOS TACOS, WHEN WE GO OUT ON OUR NEXT OUTING I'LL BE MORE THAN GLAD TO INCLUDE YOU IN OUR TRIP, WE ARE JUST A BUNCH OF HARD WORKING INDIVIDUALS WHO LIKE TO GO OFFROADING AND IT'S OPENED TO ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO COME ALONG. I DON'T LIKE TO TALK SMACK ABOUT ANYBODYS RIG. OUR SOLE PURPOSE IS TO GO OUT AND ENJOY THE GOOD OUTDOORS AND FRIENDS.

[SuperPoser]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
I can understand a MASSIVE rival between

KIA vs TOYOTA

or

HYUNDAI vs TOYOTA

But come on guys!!! you must be dreamin!
It`s tough to swallow since it`s not within your reach but be fair!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

what have you been smokin?
I must say, every forum I am a member of, there is some kind of argument heep's/taco's...

but you are just crazy...lol

what are you comparing? compact cars?
lol

check out my run last weekend for some awsome rigs!
http://community.webshots.com/album/91416022pBITEG

I usually do rock crawling, and my runner does pretty good... it did well in the mud, just got high sided twice on the diff...
same thing would have happened to an H2...
thoes guys had 38's and 44's... thats how they had the clearance, and the sami still got stuck once...

http://www.eng.ysu.edu/~melliott/hobbies.htm

[Bryanccfshr]

I live in Corpus Christi Texas. Anyone wanna wheel with me? Hell I am only on 33's. a stock H2 is on 35's.
I am all about a friendly outing and will give credit where credit is due. <pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre"> </pre> Mild Taco.

[DRTYFN]

Dos,
Got any good 4xing pics? If so, share.

[SJ]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RockYoda:
Well this discussion has gone on long enough. I would like to apoligize to this board for an A$$hole that thinks he is part of the Toyoda community. His immature posts were not called for nor do they represent ANY person who calls themselves and member of the off-road community. I hope i did not offend anybody by what some would call "rude" comments. They were not inteded that way.

I truly love VEHICLEs that are manufactured for people out of the norm. I feel that if it were up to some people we would all drive little gay cars that can only seat 4 people and only drive on paved roads. Now that would be a true shame. I hope that one day i can wheel with some of you H2 guys to really show what these things can do. (Maybe i can even pic up a used one as a trail truck some day!) Well i personnal feel that this thread should be locked and ended... Not deleted just locked. Just my .02 ...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Bulls**t RockYoda. YOU insulted me directly with YOUR "Commie" remark and now you're trying to make as if it's OTHER people in your group that are the a**holes. You're pathetic - you can't even define Communism. My family lived through it, so I think I have an idea and I'm far from being one.

I defended other members here when YOU and others started in with us. For my loyalty, I get to watch as you try to play innocent. I'd ban your sorry ass in a second, but it's not my call.

I won't speak-up next time; nobody gives a s**t except a few members here. Go wheeling with the Southern Cal group and have fun. They might choose to ignore your insults, but I won't. Until you apologize for YOUR words here, like a real man, then some of us won't buy into your horse manure. I know because people have sent me e-mails saying you should be banned.

[SJ]

Rock Yoda:

1. I'm not here to get into a juvenile pissing match. You came here as a guest and started in with the rude comments!

2. I NEVER said that a person who buys a Toyota is unpatriotic: you're making a loose assumption.

3. My TV is from Holland and my Stereo is American and Danish; My cars/trucks are American; My Appliances are American; my Lawn Mower is American; My Power Tools are American. Some of my son's toys are made in China by mostly American companies. See the pattern here? I do my best to avoid Japanese products, as I'd rather not contribute to the trade deficit and I have numerous personal reasons for not buying Japanese.

4. I'm far from being a Communist and I seriously doubt you could define what a Communist System consists of. Do you want to discuss Iosef Dzugashvili, Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, Karl Marx - I can discuss these topics with you, since I've studied Russian/Soviet, Polish, Czech, East German, and other localized histories. I'm a fervent Capitalist (reading Milosz Czeslaw and other avante garde anti-Communists) and that's why I keep posting that I support the free-market system. I don't bash folks for buying Japanese, though I wouldn't buy their automotive products my self.

How hard is this to understand? I'm putting things in rudimentary terms, is it finally sinking in?

[DennisAJC]

A stock Toyota TRD/4Runner
A stock H2........I'll take the H2

A built up Toyota TRD/4Runner
A built up H2........HMMMMM..H2 of course

POWER, CARGO, LOOKS, ABILITY????
Toyota vs Hummer????????.........Dream on.

They're all nice CARS but they ain't Hummers

Mabye try and compare with a KIA Sorento not an H2...out of your league.

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[This message was edited by DennisAJC on 08-31-03 at 09:59 PM.]

[CronusTRD]

here is an example of a well built (not bought) and fairly good looking 4x4..of course you can build a vehicle from the ground up or modify an existing vehicle...such as pictured.



just a few slightly modified...of course a tube buggy works as well...but isn't the best on the street.


Definitely not an H2!!!

[82crawler]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>..cause from my perspective you're just a scrotum sucking rectal wart....

Someone get that boy an extinguisher!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have to admit I didnt read the WHOLE post before adding my comment. Seems a few people here want to have decent conversation.

I dont care for the H2 for a number of reasons. But I dont think its worse than any other "4X4" coming out today except the $$$$$$ price tag.

I am a die-hard toyota fan but the new rubicon series Jeep is the best NEW "STOCK 4X4" you can buy.

I was thinking of putting Dana 60's on my truck. After some consideration I declined because my Truck hardly fits on anything I'd call a trail. I wonder how a H2 would perform on that trail?

I live near Reno, Nevada and I welcome a "friendly" challenge to anyone who owns a H2. Make a believer out of me! You pick the trail and we'll wheel.

[JSB]