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Old 09-04-2003, 01:21 AM
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Dostacos,

Yes, I would be into rolling on a few trails with you.

I see you are in S.C. Me too. Truckhaven is cool as is Anza. Im maybe not as EXTREME as some but afer a weekend out it would give you a better idea of what the Hummer will do.

My son plays a lot of soccer but im sure we could work something out. Mind you, I refuse to talk crap, but would be into having a good time on the trails. Its funny, everyone I have ever been out with has worked togather to get through the trail, thats offroading to me
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That's one reason I love Oregon. We have so many OHV areas, and a lot are within an hour drive (some even closer). I love my state.

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Wow, funny how people think the H2 is awhole new rig, when in fact, its far from it...

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SJ:
Toyota IS JAPANESE - it is NOT American!!!!! It may be assembled (pieced together) on American soil, but the product you're supporting and the nameplate you're proliferating is still foreign. The ultimate _CONTROL_ and _revenue_ filters back to Japan.

It irks me when people make excuses to buy Japanese and think it's OK because it's "made in America." Bullshyt - it is a foreign product that benefits from lower tariffs and import quotas by assembling on US soil.

Toyota started building cars by taking apart a Chevy and examining it piece-by-piece. Same as the Soviets that copied our F15 fighters to develop their own product [MiG 29]. The Toyota Tundra is a complete rip-off of the Ford F150.

I have a H2 and Chevy truck. Each serves a different purpose, so why do jealous morons feel the need to come here and bash a product that is designed, manufactured, and sold in America using mostly American parts?

What kind of red-blooded American bashes a Hummer and touts a Toyota? Sounds like a sell-out to me. I couldn't drive a Toyota with a clear conscience; knowing I could have supported an American brand, but it's a free-market economy, so I don't bash foreign brands. _My issue is with folks that tout Japanese products while at the same time bashing their very own (Ford, GM)._

My relatives come from Europe and they're utterly shocked at the number of Japanese cars on our roads. They can't fathom that we allow so many foreign products to flood our roads. If so many peope have this attitude that we should buy Japanese and bash our own brands, then I may be the last guy to buy American.

I'm perfectly happy with bull riding, apple pie, and my Chevy truck. You can keep your Toyota, but It's not American - never was and never will be!<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I sure hope you are as strong with this attidude toward Jeeps/Dodges and Crysler produts being GERMAN.

I care more on how well the car or truck works and less on where it is made. The Toyota Tacoma is by far the best small truck on the market for offroading [higher ground clearance, stock rear locking diff to name 2]
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Old 09-03-2003, 02:09 PM
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JSB:

The reason I mentioned NUMMI in Fremont is to show that I'm well aware of the maquiladoras [sp?] in Mexico that are assembling American nameplates and the converse, where Toyota is assembling on US soil. It was supposed to tie into your Mexico reference.

By doing a web search, we can find all the plants in America: BMW, GM, Ford, Nissan, etc.

I was just acknowledging both sides for a balanced response. This way, the Toyota folks can't try to blast me for being one-sided and blind to all facets.

Sorry to hear about your Suburban. My folks bought a BMW and had even worse experiences. There are certainly lemons or bad draws out of each batch.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I'll take my buddies rig if you don't mind. According to him....YOU don't have a REAL Toyota.

Are you sure you still wanna try me?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Awe....

I love the old land cruisers, they bring a tear to my eye.

I dont think my stocker would hold up to a LC but I'd enjoy the trip for sure...
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Old 09-08-2003, 09:22 PM
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Is it to much to ask to get an underhood shot?

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Old 09-03-2003, 09:48 PM
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WHOW! HOLD EVERYTHING!!!!!

Desert TRD....
Bryanccfshr...
David in Germany...
F*ck the H2.......

HE'S BACK!!!!!!

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
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Old 09-02-2003, 12:57 AM
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If there are any H2 owners in the Denver Metro area that would like to see if they can hang with some IFS tacomas, let me know... I've never seen one off-road... never even seen an H1 offroad... the mining roads around here are just too narrow for something that wide. Also is there a reason that 90 percent of the pictures in the member photo album are poser street pics?
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Old 09-03-2003, 03:12 PM
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Drtyfn.....you bastard! You made me laugh so hard I almost choked.

As for the rest of the forum...when are we going to learn to just ignore these "vistors" who sooooooo clearly have a hostile agenda? Time and again we've watched other forums come here to boast their brand and put us in our place.

As a general rule...I tend to avoid anyone ranked as rookie or novice. And when they start telling us how the H2 sucks...that should be a clue that they're not "friendly's"

Toyota IS a solid vehicle....but OH MY GOD is that a tiny-tight fit of a cabin: way narrow, cramped and lacking comfort....an absolute hell to take on any lengthy journey, adventure or outting. The door panels are waffer-thin. Until you've driven in an H2...you just don't know what you're missing! It's like comparing spam to prime-choice steak. Mmmmm....steak.....

I am impressed with the Taccoma's clearance and it has a reasonable approach angle....but unless you clip the tail, she'll drag and get hung-up all day. Course, the only real offroading Toyota would be the FJ-series!

The Tacoma is the prime choice for pool-cleaning service, pizza deliver or a hack carpenter who'll never be a foreman cause he's flakey, sloppy, stupid and only half the craftsman he thinks he is.

As for CrapusTuRD...get real boy! That thing would tip right over in a heart-beat. You're CG is way too high AND your "built" modifications take you way beyond the design/warranty of the vehicle...putting undo stresses on components and causing all sorts of regular breakages. Do YOU know what you're talking about?????? Bet you're traction control system works well too...opps...ya don't have one? You may be the king of the mud-bog....but any sideslope and you're going over!

The H2 is not the King of the offroad world, it does lack clearance and has its weaknesses....but what rig doesn't?. It's really quite simple...if you enjoy what you have, that's all that matters.
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"Even the H1 which has IFS front and rear"

LMAO!

Do not despair I think if you really wheel the H2 more power to you..

This is mostly friendly ribbing(yes, this is actually friendly). If you want to wheel I will go with anyone.

Let's not get to wrapped up in brand loyalty. If you enjoy the vehicle that's all that matters. If you think anyone vehicle can outwheel all others in every terrain you are mistaken. A factory vehicle is a rolling compromise.
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Old 09-09-2003, 08:13 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DennisAJC:
A stock Toyota TRD/4Runner
A stock H2........I'll take the H2

A built up Toyota TRD/4Runner
A built up H2........HMMMMM..H2 of course

POWER, CARGO, LOOKS, ABILITY????
Toyota vs Hummer????????.........Dream on.

They're all nice CARS but they ain't Hummers

Mabye try and compare with a KIA Sorento not an H2...out of your league.

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the taco would be my pick of thoes 2, but what ever I ended up getting, it would not remain stock...lol

sas taco over any h2 I have ever seen...
mayby we willsee some highly modded h2's popping up sometime soon?

power... h2,
looks... haha they are both ugly as heck!
ability... stock, not sure, but h2 is higly limited by its width... modded, sas taco by far...

I honestly have never seen h2 vs yotas before this forum...
usually its jeeps vs yota's....
which we all know h2's and yota's kick jeeps butts anyday....lol
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Chris:
CronusTRD what was up with that range rover picture? What are you trying to say about the Range Rover? The Range Rover is a very capable vehicle. Not the best for off-road in the Land Rover range, but still very capable. Wow you have a picture when they are stuck in snow. Do you feel special. What was the point of that. You people put huge lifts on yours and put huge tires on yours. And you try to compare yours to stock vehicles. Come on get a life!

Tell me when you find toyota's being used in africa and 3rd world countries because they are so capable? Well other then the FJ40, thats bad ass, but I am talking about your pickups.

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how about the DOUBLE CABs they ARE all over the world. CNN had several nice shots of the Double cabs [black] that the US ARMY sent over for the special forces units so they could BLEND in. They are used as gun platforms all over the middle east and africa, just watch the news

As for range rovers, they aren't LAND ROVERs and those are the ones you see in Africa not the range rovers
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Tirds,

Kindly list your aftermarket parts, who the manufacturer is, and where the part was manufactured.
*How much did you spend on your yoda to get it ready for heavier duty than pizza delivery?
*Did the cost of modifications exceed what you paid for the "truck/car" originally?
*Do you tow with your off-road yodas, if so, what? (towing chopped off pickup beds does not count).
*Do you think a modified El Camino is faster and more impressive off-road than a Yoda?
*Do you think Taco Bell is a Mexican phone company?
*Do people on Jerry Springer's show remind you of your neighbors?
*Does your Yoda have a rag for a gas cap?
*Does your Yoda have curtains?
*Do you think the "mountain men" in deliverance were just misunderstood?
*Did your huntin’ dog cost more than your yoda?
*Can you change the oil in your truck without ducking your head?
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Those are some cool pics!
That white H2 looks like it was abandoned by it's owner out of embarassment.

Cronus is right though. You can build a real 4x4 from the ground up....if you are the type that had the time. Me, open the box and rock baby! H2 is all you need!

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Okay...that wasn't the best pic of her....but what the heck. My house has been converted into a set for a Trace Adkins video. They've got my whole bedroom "dressed" and this babe is shaking it on my bed. She was Ms. Makita last year and has done several things. Not her best pic though!!!!
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jrt,
dang, thats hella cool!

mayby I was too much in a hurry to see the pics and missed it, but what engine do you have?

I have an '86 runner, with the 22re??? turbo (whatever the letters are)

it does pretty well...
I've got a lockrite in the front, and craftsman locker in the rear...
and 5.29 gears greatly helped!!!!

I'de love to sas, but I am not that good with mechnical stuff... (I'm an electrical engineer...lol)

did you do a fuel cell conversion to your runner?
I need to do something like that...
I hate the way the gas take hangs below the frame, darn mechanical engineers... they don't know how to design anything... jk

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by argonaut:
... but if you lift a an H2 like one of the forum members here, then you have a vehicle that can kick the crap out of any silly import.

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if you are talking about tacoma's, they are built here in the USA dude
not sure where 4runners are built?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 2slo4now:
Hey CronusTRD

Your right your 1950's straight axle design is the best. Smooth ride, no bump steer, no tracking problems. It is truly a shame that every truck manufacturer builds most of their 4x4 trucks with IFS front suspension. They are so stupid. Even the H1 which has IFS front and rear does so bad offroad that it is the vehicle of choice of the US military. You know the other real cheezy off road 4x4 trucks that run IFS is all the top finishers of the BAJA 500. If you like straight axles run them. Just don't expect me to use that rough ridin Junk.

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You don't actually think your H2 has ANYTHING in common with an H1 do you?
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