I won this ebayauction -03 h2 good/bad?

[Peter etg]

Thanks all for your thoughts. The thing is that many people have told me before that a waterdamaged car does not allways have to be terrible. So can you explain what could happen in worse case w the truck in the future?(salt/fresh water.)
Seller mentioned in the description that the truck had been in the shop for some work/change of parts. Due to this it does not mean that it should be safe enough to buy you think?

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sclui56:
W1N,

The whole issue of using an owner in a state different than the selling dealer is to avoid paying sales tax in the state where the dealer is located at the time of sale. However, the buyer is subject to sales & use tax of his/her home state when the vehicle is registered there, which may be a lot less than the seller's state.

In your case, this is a moot point as the vehicle will not be titled in the U.S., all you are after is getting the MSO so that the transport company can legally ship it.

Now I really don't know of all the in's & out's in terms of the time frame in which your friend(s) must act from the time the MSO is issued till the time the vehicle needs to be titled in the state of domicile, and every state has its own little twists in motor vehicle regs.

Think about this for a moment, if you want to have a NEW vehicle, modified to your specs, and be in a position to ship it home, even if you have to pay sales tax, the worst is that it will add another $5K to the acquisition cost But this would be the safest since you'll be able to inspect & test the vehicle after it's been tuned, just one less surprise.

While this is only STATE tax rates (not including local & other municipal taxes), this should give you a flavor in choosing your friend wisely:

http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/sales.html </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Seems like I did, my good friend lives in Colorado (Sales tax 2.9%) I do too have lived there and actually have used and lived in that same address. I actually have an social security number as well, or atleast I use to have...

And as you said the sales tax isn't going to make me go to the used if I have an opportunity to aquire a new H2.

Thanks again for your great help!

[Dallion]

DRTY is right. Here are a couple of links to similar priced H2's:

First one

Another


This one even has a winch

So they are out there, you just have to look. I personally am not a big fan of any vehicle with water damage, nor would ever own one, but I have had friends who have had water damaged vehicles and no problems... It's whatever makes you happy

Oh, and btw the last two H2's are < 30k, anytime I see an H2 < 30k I automatically think something is wrong with it... I am just untrusting I guess

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sclui56:
I think you need to contact Lingenfelter for the info you seek. I would imagine they need to take possession of the vehicle first, which means tax & license fees paid, but who knows what some of these tuners would do. I think your requirement is fairly common, though I have yet to see one fitted with the factory fuel foor nor the grab bars, either one of these items are easily come by (by US reference point of course), and both of them are not time-consuming to put on. You may want to check on the fuel door status, when I bought mine it came with a locking gas cap, but I've heard they since stopped shipping the gas cap, it's not a big deal, just an extra item to source.

I'll let you know soon as I get more info from the dealer.

Encino is approx. 20 miles N by NW of LAX. This is probably very premature, but do you have a color in mind? Are you looking for a later 05 production with the factory tire carrier as well as the extra brake lights on the rear bumper caps? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks!

I'm kinda between 2005 and waiting for 2006 to come out. Anyways, I definitely want to get rid of the tire carrier and have the spare placed inside as it used to be. I didn't know about the brake light upgrade. Do you know a site that have pictures of them? I would imagine I dislike them too, so my question is does 2004 back bumper and plastic cover, licence plate light and installing hardware for the in-cabin sparetire fit later 2005 and 2006 models. My H2 will be black, no questions asked

You are right about some of the options I long for are types that can be aquired and installed later so they will be not a show stopper for me. But I often see used H2's with different other options on them and I'm little sceptic about taking them off once they have been installed (like brush guard etc.) I would also like to have factory black tubular step rather than chrome, but I believe that exchange is quite easily fixed with pretty much any Hummer dealer out there.

Thanks a great deal!

btw, is this considered used??? -> Black H2

[W1N]

Thanks! I have to see what the serious options are and go from there. Hopefully I can find somebody here that can halp me look for used one that is just bearly used and is what I'm looking for. I think I'll wait till the 2006 comes out since the news about the upgrades will be out before the summer is over.

Thanks!

[Peter etg]

No positiv responses to my winning item?

[W1N]

Same for me but, not 10%/25% but 22%/22% so over 50% to the original puchase price... And I'm still going for the new, because of the strong euro.

[Peter etg]

Thanks all for your thoughts. The thing is that many people have told me before that a waterdamaged car does not allways have to be terrible. So can you explain what could happen in worse case w the truck in the future?(salt/fresh water.)
Seller mentioned in the description that the truck had been in the shop for some work/change of parts. Due to this it does not mean that it should be safe enough to buy you think?

W1N I do search autotrader.com, but it seems hard to find a H2 for less than 35000 w decent miles. But thanks for the link.

Peter

[sclui56]

W1N,

The whole issue of using an owner in a state different than the selling dealer is to avoid paying sales tax in the state where the dealer is located at the time of sale. However, the buyer is subject to sales & use tax of his/her home state when the vehicle is registered there, which may be a lot less than the seller's state.

In your case, this is a moot point as the vehicle will not be titled in the U.S., all you are after is getting the MSO so that the transport company can legally ship it.

Now I really don't know of all the in's & out's in terms of the time frame in which your friend(s) must act from the time the MSO is issued till the time the vehicle needs to be titled in the state of domicile, and every state has its own little twists in motor vehicle regs.

Think about this for a moment, if you want to have a NEW vehicle, modified to your specs, and be in a position to ship it home, even if you have to pay sales tax, the worst is that it will add another $5K to the acquisition cost But this would be the safest since you'll be able to inspect & test the vehicle after it's been tuned, just one less surprise.

While this is only STATE tax rates (not including local & other municipal taxes), this should give you a flavor in choosing your friend wisely:

http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/sales.html

[DennisAJC]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
For that price you could have found the same thing without the water damage. friggin' EBay shoppers. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think that H2 belongs to Argo?

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sclui56:
Peter,

Considering all the fees & VAT you EU folks must dish out, that makes it even more important to get the "best" vehicle you can find. "Best" meaning as new as possible and without any sort of damage.

Last thing you want to happen is to have spent all that euros and have rust bucket in your driveway Just my 2 cents... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was too looking foor a used H2 for a while, and if I'll have problems with getting a new from a dealer, I'm forced to get one. But, my primary goal is the get a brand new because the actual price difference of buying one with 3,000 miles on it and new is too small comapared all the work I have to do to get over here. So I'm persistent of getting a new one. And if you know a dealer that is willing to make the $$$ let me know...

[sclui56]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by W1N:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sclui56:
Peter,

Considering all the fees & VAT you EU folks must dish out, that makes it even more important to get the "best" vehicle you can find. "Best" meaning as new as possible and without any sort of damage.

Last thing you want to happen is to have spent all that euros and have rust bucket in your driveway Just my 2 cents... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was too looking foor a used H2 for a while, and if I'll have problems with getting a new from a dealer, I'm forced to get one. But, my primary goal is the get a brand new because the actual price difference of buying one with 3,000 miles on it and new is too small comapared all the work I have to do to get over here. So I'm persistent of getting a new one. And if you know a dealer that is willing to make the $$$ let me know... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A franchised dealer is forbidden by GM to export an unregistered (new) vehicle, that's not to say that it is not done. I ran into a similar situation when exporting a MBZ from the US few years back.

Just spoke with the lady at a dealership where I got mine and she basically said that for a new vehicle, it needs to be registered and tax/license fees paid, then depending on the state where the vehicle is registered, it may take up to 60 days before you get the title (ownership), which is required for customs.

OTOH, she also said they had done a few for customers with very low miles, in fact, they had one last week with 500 miles on it & is considered used as the owner changed his mind & went with the SUT. She also said that the used vehicle can be shipped a lot sooner but she couldn;t explain to me why so as the paper work has still to go through the DMV. She said she'll call back as she needs to get some more info from the manager.

I am with you in terms of the price differential, the bottom line is that the savings in a used one is probably not that much in the overall scheme of things. I am sort of doing the reverse right now as I am trying to bring a SMART here, tired of waiting for the limited sources here

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by AHels:
From what I've been able to work out, importing a non-stock vehicle to Europe is fine as long as it is still classed as road-worthy in the EU - i.e. check weight, emission etc restrictions with your local test-center.

The problem is that if it's not stock it will have to go through a full test as they wont have an already approved vehicle to test it against.

So basically you'll have to sit a full Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) test yourself. This is where they check the car from top to bottom and comments on anything you'll have to change to get it approved. Once approved you can then get it registered, insured and finally enjoy the ride

I'm guessing this is pretty much the same in all of Europe as it's set by EU guidelines - and although some states (Sweden in particular) have managed to opt out of various clauses (booze, tobacco etc) the vehicle tests should be the same all over the place for safety reasons.

Of course, if you want pretty much a stock vehicle, but stock, get it approved using the short test and add your supercharger etc afterwards - at which time it'll still need to go through 'bilprovningen' but should pass rather easily as they then only check your modifications. Also, make sure you'll get insured with mods - I know the insurance companies are quite ok in Sweden, but still something to bear in mind before buying/modding.

Hope that helps somewhat. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The deal is, in Finland atleast, Hummer is not in any ways approved vehicle. So it really doesn't matter if I have stock, 500hp or 750 hp engine, it is still not approved in any way. The difficulty with tuned up H2 is that there is no factory results regarding the issues you mentioned. Current H2's in Finland have been somewhat questionable because there is not a EU approven test results available and all of the
H2's have had generally not accepted test results when people have registered their H2's. So, if I have understood the thing correctly, I will have a buddy of mine (guy who has done this before) do all the regulative work and find all the test results. We only have to provide info about emissions after the SC is installed since other stock results will apply after tune up. I hope registration officials think the same way.

It is not possible to register the H2 first and then intall the SC, since the vehicle need to be in US where I plan have it all done and I'm not in intention of sending it back...

Thanks!

[Peter etg]

W1N. Thanks. I spend some time at mobile.de. Prices not very good though. Most of the prices there are without VAT and european custom.

[Peter etg]

By looking at the pictures, it looks like the truck is "sitting little low" on the rear wheels. Like it is kind of lower in the rear. is it just the pics or me?

[Peter etg]

Hi,
As some of you know i´m in Sweden and am trying to find a H2 in the US to bring over here.
I just won this auction. Seems to be an ok deal i think. US 32555.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=43913&item=4548923 666&rd=1

I am aware of the water history stated in the description. Does waterhistory allways have to mean big trouble (for me), or could everything just as well work fine in the future?
Since this one was pretty well equiped and low miles i hope i did a decent deal. What do you experts say?
Did i make a decent deal OR the worst deal ever made by a man??
Inputs are appriciated. But please don´t be to hard on me if the deal was really bad



Thanks a lot
Peter

(p.s it saids "auction ended you were outbid". That is beacuse i also use another user-id. patrikekh)

[Peter etg]

LoLo. Now i feel better

[W1N]

Mully,

Would you mind checking this one:
VIN 5GRGN23U25H126989

Thanks!

[Peter etg]

W1N.
I understand and agree. But have you found any good deal on a new one?

Peter

[Ed G.]

etg,
No offense, but you get what you pay for. You seem to be looking for something cheap, maybe a little too cheap.

Ed