I won this ebayauction -03 h2 good/bad?

[W1N]

Peter,

I have to go with Dallion and DRTY. I've seen you here before and I have to ask what's with the obsession of ebay and damaged vehicles? Do you actually think you can save money by buying a damaged vehicle in lowered price and buying it over the Internet.

First, I wouln't buy a damaged vehile over the Internet ever period. Adding to that the fact that servicing the H2 in Europe is MUCH more expencive than in the US and damaged vehicle is more likely to need service.
Second, I sent you the Autotrader.com a while ago, and I honestly think you can get better deals from there. Most of the sales is done by dealers so you might be able to negotiate the price even more.

If you are looking for a used vehicle there is only a slight chance that you'll get all the options you want. So I would go for the reliability and TCO first and then other stuff. Most of which you can get from the aftermarket anyways...

My opinion is that if you put together eBay and damaged vehicle and exporting it to Europe is that you are going to get hurt.

Thanks!

[Peter etg]

W1N
A friend of mine imported a Suburban with some kind of modified engine which gave the truck another 50 or so hp.
He was not able to registrate it. He had to put the truck to it´s original before he was able to reg.
Another friend imported a GMC Yukon XL. with some kind of airride. Same here. Not possible.

Peter

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by etg:
W1N. Thanks. I spend some time at mobile.de. Prices not very good though. Most of the prices there are without VAT and european custom. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not sure about swedish law, but I would assume it is not as strict as Finnish legistlation concerning vehicles. However, for us in Finland taxes goes as follows in case of importing a used vehicle into the contry. Hummer is considered as heavy truck since its weight is over 3500 kg. There are no vehicle tax for us in heavy trucks, but we have to pay the sales tax 22%. So if I import a 37000€ H2 (used) from Germany, it would be something like 42700€. Price breakdown below:

Price 37 000,00 €
Sales tax 22% 8 140,00 €
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Total 45 140,00 €


I think you should check this out, because you could get the whole thing done much easier, faster and less stress if are threated similiarly as we are. BUT, if you are looking to get new H2 then you should shop US. But you wouldn't be shopping eBay for flooded vehicles, if you were...

For all of you who are interested 2004 H2 in Germany go for aproximately $47k and the in Finland it is about $115k, these are just basic luxury versions with 10000 miles on them...

[sclui56]

I think you need to contact Lingenfelter for the info you seek. I would imagine they need to take possession of the vehicle first, which means tax & license fees paid, but who knows what some of these tuners would do. I think your requirement is fairly common, though I have yet to see one fitted with the factory fuel foor nor the grab bars, either one of these items are easily come by (by US reference point of course), and both of them are not time-consuming to put on. You may want to check on the fuel door status, when I bought mine it came with a locking gas cap, but I've heard they since stopped shipping the gas cap, it's not a big deal, just an extra item to source.

I'll let you know soon as I get more info from the dealer.

Encino is approx. 20 miles N by NW of LAX. This is probably very premature, but do you have a color in mind? Are you looking for a later 05 production with the factory tire carrier as well as the extra brake lights on the rear bumper caps?

[Peter etg]

Dallion. Is it posible for you to check this one on carfax for me?
You got PM btw.

thanks peter

[sclui56]

W1N,

Have you considered contacting some of the companies doing this end-to-end auto export?

http://www.globalcarpoint.com/
http://www.autoexportusa.com

I never use them and really don;t know anything about them, but these 2 appear to have affiliates in Finland.

I honestly don't beleive a regular US franchised dealer is the way to go unless you intend to be state-side to purchase the vehicle first, these dealerships have too much at risk in shipping a new unregistered vehicle.

May be you can also use a buying service where they can get the vehicle for you, and possibly arrange for export.

BTW, still haven;t heard back from my dealer, so I won't hold my breath...

[Peter etg]

DRTYFN. Thanks a lot.
DALLION. You have a point. I must check fresh or saltwater. I might be in trouble...

[W1N]

Hello Peter!

You can always check the www.carfax.com if you have the VIN number of the vehicle. It doesn't quarantee anything, but the cost of $30 or so you might get valuable info.

thanks!

[DRTYFN]

For that price you could have found the same thing without the water damage. friggin' EBay shoppers.

[Peter etg]

W1N I don´t know about Finland. But when registrating a car coming from outside of the EU to sweden everything needs to be standard.
For example a Lingenfelter would not be accepted buy the registrationauthorities over here.
You might wan´t to check the regulations in Finland.


Peter

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Peter etg:
W1N I don´t know about Finland. But when registrating a car coming from outside of the EU to sweden everything needs to be standard.
For example a Lingenfelter would not be accepted buy the registrationauthorities over here.
You might wan´t to check the regulations in Finland.


Peter </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

What do you mean by "everything needs to be standard"?

I know that EU has legistlation conserning automotive industry, but it is treated very differently in different countries. Some countries do not follow it at all and some do it very strictly. Finland is very strict about most things (very very strict), but I have not encountered reason why Lingenfelter SC would be prohibited. I've even talked to the authorities about it and only thing there is, is that the vehicle must fulfill certain standards as a whole. Naturally I'll check this right before I have my truck sent to the Lingenfelter, but currently I do not see a problem there.

In Czeck Republic there is Hummer store that sell Lingenfelter packages (both 500hp and 700 hp). http://www.hummer.cz/

Thanks!

[AHels]

You're right. The Hummer's, be it a H1, H2 or even an H3 are not currently approved in Europe. Simply because GM haven't went through the trouble to get them approved as of yet - looks to change as they were talking about actually importing them themselves (GM Austria I believe?).

That being said, there are lots of Hummers on the European roads and they are all approved by EU legislation. The thing is, they need to go through the SVA test (may be called something different in Finland) for the full vehicle check-up, unless, you can provide them with a certificate of a previously approved vehicle of the same make, model and year - in which case they do a limited test only.

These certificates used to be sold for a quite lot of money across europe as it saved the private importer from doing all the work themself. The bottom line is, any vehicle can be made road-legal in Europe, even with a 1000hp engine if you so like, it just means they will need to take the full test.

As for only providing emission results, you should be alright as long as the HP isn't way overboard. Obviously, adding more HP needs better brakes etc etc etc which will all have a part to play in getting it approved in the first place.

Or you could just do what I'll be doing, drive it on US plates (for a while atleast)

[AHels]

Well... err.. no

I'm actually in the UK, but sort of viking blooded or whatever.
Have checked out the regulations extensively though, as I'll be bringing a H2 over fairly soon and insurance in the UK is gonna cost me a f'ing bomb (£7500.00) I think was the best quote I've getten so far. So I figured, check if I can get it registered and insured in Sweden using an address over there, first quote I got was in the region of £2300.00

So I've decided to drive it on US plates from LA to Key West, have it shipped over and continue our little road-trip throughout Europe (still on US plates) and only have it modified and everything once we're ready to go back to work

Now, you're not supposed to drive on foreign plates for more than.. I think.. two weeks (if in your own country) or three months (if in a different country) but hey, there are ways around that.

Finally, as for you trying to get a bargain of eBay.. watch what you're doing - especially getting it from so far away. You may be better off looking in Europe for a comparable priced model, seen a few '03s going in the UK for around £29000.00 lately - or check with rindab.se

[sclui56]

W1N,

Here's a pix of the updated 2005's:

For EU use, you may just be able to modify the circuit & turen one of them into a rear fog, which I believe is required?

While I am still waiting for info from the dealer, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to see if any member here is affiliated with dealers on the right (east) coast? Getting the vehicle to port would be a bit easier, not to mention the cost for truck or rail.

[Mully]

Figured it out. I went back to the site. Entered the VIN into the "Free Start Your Search Now!" spot and it came back that it is an O5 Hummer with zero records on file. I then logged in, gave it the same vin and again it gave me the message that it gave above with no mention of the type of vehicle it is.

Sounds to me like it is brand new and never titled. Hope that helps.

[Peter etg]

Dallion. Yes sometimes one see H2´s for around 20k on cars.com or autotrader.com. I must say that they all are frauds. I have been in contact with so many of them and they all want deposits via some kind of escrowsites. Of course they don´t have any truck for sale and the escrowthing is not existing. Money goes straight into their pocket.

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Mully:
Figured it out. I went back to the site. Entered the VIN into the "Free Start Your Search Now!" spot and it came back that it is an O5 Hummer with zero records on file. I then logged in, gave it the same vin and again it gave me the message that it gave above with no mention of the type of vehicle it is.

Sounds to me like it is brand new and never titled. Hope that helps. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It was what it was supposed to be!

Thanks!!

[W1N]

etg,

I've tried to tell you this. Go to Al Sierra Hummer and you can find pretty good deals of new Hummers. And you can also be sure that you get premium quality. If you insist of buying a used Hummer, I believe you'll be better off with getting one from Germany and tax would less too. Check out www.mobile.de. They have many used hummers much closer than US.

Thanks!

[W1N]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by sclui56:
W1N,

Had to p/u some parts yesterday so I spoke with the manager at the dealer. The deal is like before, if you want to by used, there's no problem for them to facilitate in getting the vehicle shipped, otherwise, on a new vehicle, you will need to find a valid person & address in the U.S. to whom this new vehicle is suppose tyo be registered to, the dealer would then issue a "MSO", which is sort of like a temporary title, and the vehicle will be titled properly once it reaches the destination state (obviously this will not happen).

The whole point of doing an out-of-state sale is to alleivate the sales tax, and I was told that once the "MSO" is issued at the time of sale, the trucking company can actually p/u the vehicle from the selling dealer to the port of your choice.

So your intention of adding mods to the vehicle before crossing the pond is only going to complicate matters, unless you have a very dear friend state-side to oversee the entire process. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks a great deal!!!

I'm working on a couple options currenly. So I'm hoping there is still a slight chance of getting a brand new one. Otherwise I have to start looking for a used one that is as new as possible.

btw, does that person in US have to be living in the same state as the dealer? Because I have few friends who might be willing to help me out.

Next, when the truck is registered to that person and the MSO is issued, the dealer would send it to Lingenfelter for little tune-up. Once finished I will come to States (I'll have business trips over seas every now and then) and test it before sending it to Finland. I have contact who has sent numerous H2's over here, so he'll take care of the sending etc... How does this sound?

One thing I didn't get... So, if the MSO is issued to a person in different State than the dealer, there would not be a sales tax? Why would anubody buy a truck from your home state? Could you clarify.

What do you mean over see the whole process? I think what you just described there is not much to be over seen.

Thanks again for your time!!!

[Peter etg]

Ahels. Are you in Sweden ?