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12-07-2003, 05:25 AM
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why a new thread...cause most people won't bother to check an old thread for new stuff....
Pictures speak louder then words....so let's just get into it.
This is one of the hills on White Mountain...it's steep, off-cambered and full of loose stuff.
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12-07-2003, 05:51 AM
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12-16-2003, 08:39 PM
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That’s just my opinion, I could be wrong......... NOT!!
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12-07-2003, 05:43 AM
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Okay...more about the above pic. What really happened is that the seemingly innocent rock looked pretty mellow to Alec. I wasn't even spotting him at this juncture....I was running up ahead to deal with the real stuff just ahead of us.....
As he passed over this rock he almost made it, but an edge got caught on the part just past the skid-plate. The vehicle moving forward literally rolled the rock upward and suddenly, like a jack, it just lifted the whole rig into the air.
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12-07-2003, 05:32 AM
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12-07-2003, 06:06 AM
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oh yeah, and since I'm in the bitching mood...
I came along without the rig so that I could spend time with Alec, help spot him and particularly to get some great pics.
Despite not having to lug my own rig around, I STILL found myself too involved spotting during the hard parts to get the best pics!!! I tried so hard to get as many great pics as possible and still came up short of portraiting the real tough parts of the trail. I didn't even get that ridiculously nasty section between those trees with the boulder-soup just underneath it.
Next time I won't drive AND I'll have DRTYFN come down to spot and I'll cruise around on a quad and strictly take pics.
I'm pissed...I wanted more & better!!! 
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12-08-2003, 05:39 PM
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Awsome Pics! Gota love that part of Cali!
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12-08-2003, 01:45 AM
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Alec...same thing with your pics???
I used to be a wizz on my old Canon 35mm....but this new digital thing is tough to figure out; you literally have to know the thing inside & out and all the elaborate programming to get it to generate a good pic.
Jim....thanks for the tips. I think you are referring to generating a greater depth of field, but that more relates to focus.
I think the problem resides more in the processing of these pics...the photo-receptors (or whatever receives the light) just isn't the same as film. The darks are dark and the brights are bright. Alec has the exact same results...the sky is nice, the trees are lit...yet there's a nasty darkness in the shadows of the vehicle.
I don't know, I don't get it...all I know is that I need better pics. NOW!
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12-07-2003, 05:30 AM
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Pictures are great!!(like always) 
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12-08-2003, 04:15 PM
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Jim...
I've given some thought to what you say...and after carefully consideration and much self-evaluation...the course of my actions are clear.
I'm going to take the plunge, challenge myself and endeavor to do something so bold, so daring...so defying......that I may actually go into complete shock & freak-out:
I'm gonna read that "instruction" guide 
My good-old 35mm SLR was pretty simple...but this digital camera has more functions, features, settings and gizmo's then I could ever want to use/have. I think I found the mode and stuff you are talking about, it has different settings for different situations...obviously I'll just have to mess around with it to discover the right formula.
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12-16-2003, 04:08 AM
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I ran across this thread and thought I would respond to the exposure problem with your pictures. I don't think you have a camera problem (especially with the S50 - it's a good camera). I think a lot of it has to do with the angle some of the shots were taken in combination with the position of the sun. It's not an all out backlighting problem, but it's pretty close. When you point you camera at a scene, the metoring sensors are looking at the overall tonality of the scene (areas of light to areas of dark) and the camera is trying to come up with an exposure that is close to normal (what's refered to as 18% gray). If there are areas in a scene that have both extremes, it is going to expose for one or the other. In this case, it exposed for the areas that were in the shade leaving the sky overexposed. You can correct this by changing the angle you shoot, but you can't always controll where your subject is. In that case, I would suggest a gradient filter you can attach to your lens. The filter is a dark gray to clear. You simply position the dark gray portion of filter where the bright areas are (the sky) and the clear portion where the normal to dark areas are. Your camera will then see this as an evenly lit scene. Sorry this is so long - hope it helps!
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12-07-2003, 05:38 AM
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this is what happens when the spotter is not paying attention.....the funny thing is, the front right tire is actually off the ground about 14".....the picture almost lies to the point of not even seeing it off the ground!!!
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12-08-2003, 04:20 PM
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Yeah, that helps too! :P
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12-07-2003, 05:57 AM
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I am EXTREMELY disappointed with my pics. I'm using a Canon S50 digital 5 mega-pixel camera and have had good results in the past. I fully understand the principles surrounding photography....but there must be some setting or problem with this camera: the contrast is just screwy!!! Look at how so many of the shots have the proper aperature for the subject, yet the background is totally over-exposed/too bright?
Either the subject is too dark and the background is right, or the background is fine and the subject too dark. I know you can only accomodate one f-stop/exposure...but still, something is very very wrong here. I've not had this problem before. Time to take the camera in perhaps???
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12-08-2003, 06:21 PM
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Great pics...
MAN, I reallly gotta get back down there on the big stuff...
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12-08-2003, 04:40 PM
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Hey, what format are your pictures taken in? Are they JPEG or RAW?
Also, most newer camera's embed exposure information into the files, so if you want to send me one of the unedited pics, I can take a look at it.
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12-07-2003, 05:31 AM
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12-07-2003, 05:32 AM
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