Dead Battery

[H2-USA]

Another Leaking Battery at the Positive Terminal
Tally Up another one (2003 H2). I noticed something leaking in the drivers side wheel well, under the battery area, and also dripping on the sway bar. After opening the hood I found a puddle in the battery tray. I removed the battery to find a buddle of white ooze, where the battery acid had been digesting the 4 tray bolts, as well as the paint under the plastic tray.
SCREW battling with the dealership. I headed out and purchased an Optima Yellow top and after a bit of cleanup,the installation was complete and almost forgotten about ..... except for the $160 price tag.
If you haven't checked your original battery yet, here's your wake up call to take alook.

[tower]

Well, Taz. yes! I suppose I do consider you as all knowing in many ways.

I think (hope) you caught that I was just having some fun with you. If you look at page 1 of this post, you'll see a photo of 2 yellow tops. One is upright, the other is on its side. This may be the only way to fit a pair of Y/T's under the hood. The 2 reds in the photo below it, apparently, are shaped differently.

[JamesT]

Know this has been addressed but could'nt find it. Went to start the ol girl and it acted like battery was dead. Nothing cam on...no lights no battery, Tried to start it several more times then on try #4, it started. Goind to dealership soon but any heads up on what this is?

[tower]

Hope this helps.

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/6706011751/m/792603...926030515#7926030515

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...51/m/984102136

http://elcova.com/groupee/forums/a/t...51/m/806109376

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMPartsGuy:
Never mix battery types, stay red-red, yellow-yellow. They have different characteristics between them and will work against each other in chemistry ways. Got this from an Optima dealer...... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Actually, used with an isolator, you can mix battery types. Even mix standard batteries with the Optimas. You'll also hear battery people say you have to put new batteries in at the same time because an old battery will make a newer one fail more quickly.

But this is all true if you hook them in parallel, not using a battery isolator that separates the batteries. The isolator setup is the key.

[PARAGON]

Both

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

Guys on the batt box. here is the deal. The area to work with is 14 x 10.5 x 8.5
The box is 18.5 x 10.5 x 12
Would someone measure and verify that the area to work with is correct numbers. I called one of the guys at the shop and they got them off My rig.
It will not fit and it is designed to fit optima's just not in an H2.They do make a single box but, do not know how much help that would be. I You like i will run down the numbers on it for You. Let Me know.
tower You know I would not neglect You. I had know idea that You were in the mind for one. Who do You think I am the Mighty Kreskin.
TAZ

[tower]

Well, I suppose the obvious is worth mentioning. If you have dealer installed accessories (e.g. roof lights, grilleguard lights) or a back-up camera, this is one possible issue. To go to "instant on" when you go into re3verse, the back-up camera has a low draw when the truck is off. The dealers have been mostly hooking their lights up to direct power (via relay, of course) and bypassing the IGN switched hot circuit. This means if you shut off your engine and lock your car, your lights will stay on until you shut off the switch. Mine are rewired to the IGN lead, so if the truck is off, so are the fog lights.

As I said, probably not your issue, but worth noting.

You can trace current, starting from the positive battery lead using a field ammeter. You don’t need to cut wires or even make electrical contact with the wiring. This meter measures the electromagnetic fields that always accompany current flow. If all else fails, a good auto electrical shop can trace the problem this way, if it is a current draw issue.

[tower]

Okay, remote location is one of the 3, and your concerns are valid, unless you mount it inside the cabin (e.g. undr the rear seat (which presents other problems). Following the thousand word principle, I will see what photos I have. BRB.

[NoMoGMPG]

Never mix battery types, stay red-red, yellow-yellow. They have different characteristics between them and will work against each other in chemistry ways. Got this from an Optima dealer.

Also, getting back to the post topic, ACDelco has for a LOOOONG time had a problem with leaking batteries at the positive terminal and it is WELL documented. If the vehicle is under GM or GMPP warranty, all subsequent damage from the leaking battery should be repaired either no charge or with the extended warranty deductible. Press the issue with the service manager, tell him/her that you KNOW their batteries have this issue and that you know that THEY know. I can't recount how many batteries, cables, and starters our dealership has replaced because of this issue.

The problem with the ACDelco batteries are that the engineers had the post retaineg plate inside the battery changed to a PLASTIC part, which will break and leak upon overtightening. Since the standard for tightening a battery bolt is S-N-U-G, this will crack or break the PLASTIC retainer.

Feed this to the service manager and he will cower at your intimate knowledge resulting in capitulation to you.

Dave

[tower]

I'm just guessing here, but I would think that you could get a thin (1/8" or less) plate from a welder and drill it for long bolts and a header bar or 2 fairly easily. Are you really ill or are you suffering from CRS* disease, like myself.


*(Can't Remember Sh*t)

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Something smells fishy here. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[partsguy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by JamesT:
Yes...Craig said something to do with ignition sensors? We'll see.<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Ingntion switch?
almost a safe guess.Gremlins live in those switchs!

[quote]Originally posted by sfox:
Do you still have the stock battery?

S </div></BLOCKQUOTE> </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[PARAGON]

The 2 red tops are not the same battery type as the yellow tops. The side posts are more outboard and they don't appear to have top posts.

[tower]

Gosh, I'm sorry to hear that you are not well. If I may ask specifics, please post or PM your situation. If not, that's fine. I don't mean to pry, just curious.

All my best,

[PARAGON]

That wasn't very funny. You should not take advantage of the mentally challenged like that.

The first post of mine in the first link is still accurate but the list has been added to. I now have an air compressor and 5 gallon stainless steel tank, horns, stuff to make a "gear drawer" for the back, cameras, etc. All sitting in my shop to be added to the truck. If I could ever get past this illness I could get some of this stuff done. I am still working on installing the controller for my Rancho shocks that was added about a month or so ago.

I just tried to contact Tomken again to see if their tray will work. I am just not up to fabbing something like this these days.

[HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ]

PARAGON I just found recently an all aluminum battery box and We are checking the demension in the batt factory location to see if it will fit. It is a dual battery box with all thread bolts to hold top on and hold the box on where the factory tray is after it is removed. I'll let You know when We get it measured out. Probably Thursday.
PARAGON I called shop and asked them to measure box and see if it fits factory location. It is built for 2 Optima batteries. I would think it will fit in factory location.
TAZ

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RLTAZH2:
PARAGON I just found recently an all aluminum battery box and We are checking the demension in the batt factory location to see if it will fit. It is a dual battery box with all thread bolts to hold top on and hold the box on where the factory tray is after it is removed. I'll let You know when We get it measured out. Probably Thursday.
PARAGON I called shop and asked them to measure box and see if it fits factory location. It is built for 2 Optima batteries. I would think it will fit in factory location.
TAZ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Let me know if it works. Would get me going in that direction if you found one that worked.

[tower]

You may well need to fab them yourself, but the photos came from this forum. I'll see if I can find the threads for you.

[tower]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RLTAZH2:
aluminum battery box... dual battery box with all thread bolts to hold top on and hold the box on where the factory tray is after it is removed. I'll let You know when We get it measured out. Probably Thursday... It is built for 2 Optima batteries. I would think it will fit in factory location.
TAZ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thanks, TAZ, WTF am I, Kosher chopped liver? Could you please let me know about this too? Don't make me beg! My knees don't look good bloodied!