A day with Disco's!!!!

[Steve R]

D90 coming down

[Kevin B]

This isnt ugly argonaut, its just the way it is People have had this discussion for a long time.

Steve called some guys out and when you do that some are going to come. I think this is normal and healthy. Anyone who has spent the weekend on the trail with different "brands" has played the game. It kinda sounds like a challange.


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I invited some of them to join us on our upcoming White Mountain event...we'll see what happens....

I watched the Disco's and can honestly say that they are entirely in a different catagory from the H2 in terms of capability. Their track is too narrow and their butts hand-out too far. They were all over the place, very poor side-slope and mediocre articulation: could not keep up with me, not even close! Even their modified couldn't match me.

Given all the slams we've taken from Disco owners in the past....I'm laying this issue to rest. No comparison, the Hummer whooped the heck out of them all today, hands down, iron-clad, done-deal.

Great guys, nice vehicles, but the question still stands......who's next? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I would love to see and participate in a gathering of all types of rigs and see how they all do.

Being the owner of a Hummer, and spending a weekend with some disco's, I PERSONALLY dont see things the way Steve saw them. The guys I went with rocked and their rigs impressed me greatly(the modified ones even made one hill I couldn't). Sufice to say I have much respect for the LR badge. This may be due to my poor driving skills or inexpierence but I felt they were a good match.

I would love to see an event put togather where we could put the keyboards away and have some fun What do ya think

[Buckeye Hummer]

No problem, apparently you can't drive worth a crap either OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Just kidding, hope the rig is done and beers on me.

See you Sunday.

Jason

[Steve R]

classic

[Buckeye Hummer]

And you probably live in a house like this: that oughta teach ya to come here and talk smack.

[DennisAJC]

They let you keep the old tires too?????

That is one nice adjuster! Cool. I don't remember Alec, but are they gonna detail your H2 also?

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[Big Z]

Here we go again! Just Keep Pokeing A snake, And they Will Strike.

[Steve R]

Okay guys....let's wrap this up and bring an end to the festival of hostilities.

I'm really not happy with the way things have developed on this forum or the DiscoWeb. For the record, I have not actually been kicked off the Dweb.....I simply cleaned my computer and removed a bunch of "cookies", the site just doesn't recognize me and I don't recall my password.

They say hindsight is 20/20. In reflecting back I have to admit that openly challenging the crowd seemed a bit over-the-top...but you have to understand the preemptive elements that led to that situation:

I came to that event with the sole intent of perhaps finding a new trail for our group to run AND to just get out and have some fun. I had no other agenda.

Yes, I was heckled, teased and given a hard time about the H2. It was annoying, a bit rude and provoked me a bit. Heck...just after being introduced some guy (Ron???) in the crowd suggested giving me a sticker that read "I wish I had a Land Rover"...and everybody laughed.

The joking continued...much of it done face-to-face as people checked out the H2 (and so Scrover & others may not have been aware). All this teasing didn't exactly promote my keeping a humble composure. I kept it mellow and rolled with the punches.

I went up that hill with only one intent...to get up it and make it safely. I went straight up with no problems at all. When I got to the top it was evident that I would have to be the first vehicle to come back down....and so I turned around and proceeded down.

To this point everything was just fine. They cheered me, I got congrats and all was well.

It was when I got to the bottom that some jerk (Ron??) heckled me by telling me that I had been lucky and that I had taken the easy way up. Okay...THAT'S a freakin' challenge and something I wasn't about to swallow. You say that to me or any other guy and you're gonna get a response.

I turned around and proceeded to repeat my ascent up the right side of the hill. My reference to "tearing" up the hill was in regard to speed and authority...not actual damage to the terrain. I probably had the least impact on that hill that day.

I then turned around and came back down. When I got to the bottom I thought it would be funny (and shut the heckler up) by running backwards a bit. It was quick, brief and maybe 1/3 the way up.

I then got out and asked if anyone else wanted a crack at the hill. Yes, it was (in hindsight) a bit obnoxious. I'll admit, I got caught-up in the adrenaline and was riding on a victory-rush...much like the football player who runs the ball into the endzone.

All things considered, you can't tease a guy a whole bunch, heckle him and then belittle his accomplishment by telling him he was just lucky and took the easy way.

Bottom line: the heckler deserved the attitude and not the entire crowd. What's worse, most the crowd was not likely aware of all the crap I was being given.....and so I can understand the title of....how did Scrover put it....ah yes..."arrogant dick" being bestowed upon me. For the record, I much prefer arrogant Prick....or bastard.

Scrover actually seemed like a real cool guy...he (earlier) waved at me, gave me a smile and greeted me with a deilghtful english accent. I've got no beef with ya Scrov...just please consider the pressure & grief I was operating under. I was really there to have fun, be helpful and enjoy the day.....what I got was less then...well, you know.

As for my "write-up", Alec is right....it's much like a fishing story....I sensationalized it and fertilized it rich with humor. It was an entertaining piece intended to bring home some pride to the home team. We've taken some nasty heat from attacks...it seemed like a triumphant story to enjoy. It's probably not the best read for a diehard LR-fan.....but this is an H2 forum and it's quite tame as compared to some of what I've read abroad.

I believe an understanding of my perception explains much of my behavior that day. I really had no hidden agenda and actually sought to avoid competitive confrontation...some of those Defenders looked pretty fierce!

Doug was, and is, a complete gentlemen. He was very graceful in extending to me an invitation to their event and I appreciated the opporutnity to meet some new people and check-out some fascinating rigs.

I appreciate the backing some of my forum-buddies have given me, but now it seems like a good time to bring to a close the bickering I seem to have initiated. We're all better people then this. As Scrover says....PEACE. For my part I will apologize.

- Steve

[This message was edited by Steve R on 09-24-03 at 01:09 AM.]

[scrover]

OK no more picking apart posts Except for these:

"Your welcome" as in my welcome or you're welcome as in you are welcome?

"Scrotum, I mean Scrover" I tried it, the DMV rejected it so I settled for (lick my) scrover.

"How could you determine my skills at offroading?" err, I saw you drive?

"or were you one of the chicken ****s running your mouth at the bottom of the hill?" I was the guy that said to you "you could walk right up that hill, do you have enough room to get past those trucks?" I didn't realized at that moment what an arrogant dick you are.

"Yes I said "tore" no that doesn't mean Steve literally destroyed the trail dumping trash along the way while he discarded his cigarette into the brush and bounced gas out of open gas cans." Now you're being silly, he doesn't smoke.

I really don't take it so seriously I'm sure Steve achieved what he set out to do and that's all that matters right?

Peace

Steve

[scrover]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buckeye Hummer:
Serious question: Does anyone know why Rover owners attach ALL of their cargo on top of the vehicle and none inside? I mean we aren't going on a safari and it makes those suckers a little top heavy don't ya think? Some of the inclines we were doing at White Mountain (yes with bypasses for the newbies so they don't get scared away Steve)were so steep I wouldn't even put my tire on top.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Serious answer: We never really know if we're gonna make it home So, with all the spare parts, food, clothes, gas, water, spare tire (anything more than an inch over stock won't fit inside), recovery gear, Spam and Grey Poupon, something has to go on the roof rack. So, we may as well just put everything up there and leave room inside for sleeping while the tow truck arrives

Steve

[DRTYFN]

Scrover,
After all of the **** H2 owners have taken about the Tahoe frame, lack of 4xing ability and whatever else some ignorant SOB whats to spout off about the H2s maybe you can get a tiny bit of understanding as to why Steve rubbed it in just a little bit. Personally, it sounds a little like sour grapes that the whipping child(H2, not Steve) rose up and showed it's true colors and spanked your ass good for you. The crack about your daughter driving was really a lemon sucker.
Try to remember that we are ALL out there to have fun together.

[DougW]

Just keeping my options open. I might get excommunicated from www.d-90.com and www.discoweb.com for inviting you along! ;-)

I like Jeepers -- wouldn't miss the Corva Poker Run every year. It's Beyond Thunderdome.

See ya on the trails,

Doug

[brianfriend]

Hey....what's going on Sunday? I didn't see anything in the upcoming event's section.

If it can break it can be fixed.

[SuperPoser]

very well writen dude!

that hill looks fun!
be pretty nasty if it was muddy...
I know how pics don't do it justice...
I've got a movie of me doing a step-up hill, not that big, but 3, 3-4' cliffs in it...
easy when its dry, a lot more difficult when its wet...

anyways, I've got a movie of it, and it looks very easy...


http://www.pa-tacomas.com/videos.html

there's also a movie of marshall jumping his rig before he sas'ed it...

http://www.eng.ysu.edu/~melliott/hobbies.htm

[Buckeye Hummer]

Scrover, the only thing I don't like about Land Rovers is that Ford owns them and I am a GM guy but that's about it, otherwise, I think they're quite capable, comfortable off-road vehicles. I did go out with one brand new disco that rather easily clawed up a hill. I was rather impressed as it did it quite effortlessly. Later in the day the disco did lose it's traction control and was grounded in terms of the rough stuff but I think that can and will happen to any of us.

As far as your comment about 0% Steve I would have to disagree. I have gone out with Steve now 3 times and EVERY time I have had difficulty in one area or another where he did not. I did get stuck at White Mountain as well 2 weeks ago and Steve winched me out from the top. It's possible that he loosened up the slope as he tore up it but I would have to say it was primarily driver skill to get up that sucker. I am amazed at what the H2 will do but don't think just anyone can jump behind the wheel and make it do tricks as I am sure is the same with rovers.

We hope to see some of you guys this Sunday.

[Drag]

Steve, all I have to say is

"Mr. Burns voice ON"

Exxxxcelen, Smithers!

"Mr. Burns voice OFF"

Corvette= "The ability to pass with class"

[Steve R]

Uh...seeing as I can't quite get onto the Dweb, if someone capable can copy & paste it to that site...I'd appreciate it.

[DennisAJC]

This is why Buckeye...

He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover

[scrover]

Hey Axel, you're up late

[Steve R]

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