Hitch question - Page 2

TXSUT · #1 06-01-2005, 10:31 AM

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Originally posted by Andre:
My boat is a seadoo speedster, right now i have a 2 inch drop and the boat does not sit level, just wondering what you guys were using for smaller boats or utility trailers.

I'm using an 8" drop hitch for two small utility trailers, and they are very close to level at that height.

There, simple enough.

DRTYF? (the imposter) · #2 05-31-2005, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
Who here actually thinks boat trailers are balanced on the hitch and not the axles? Anyone? Go outside now and read your hitch.. Does it not say max weight 500 lbs? Yeah..

Idiot.

Why do your posts seem to disappear or get edited? Speak ass, head's busy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dont try to change the subject..

Is this you?
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DRTYF? (the imposter) · #3 05-31-2005, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by sfox:
Skippy,
You have gone fro being mildly annoying to down-right dangerous....please stick to threads were being an ******* won't cause someone else to possibly do something dangerous (i.e. DON"T GIVE ADVICE, YOU DON"T KNOW **** ABOUT THE H2)

S

What are you talking about?

KenP · #4 05-31-2005, 07:08 PM

http://www.sherline.com/lmbook.htm#refrn9

Single Axle: 10% minimum - 15% maximum
Tandem Axle: 9% - 15%
Travel Trailer: 11% - 12%
5th Wheel: 15% - 25%

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/bo_maintenance_repair/art...3718_2277896,00.html

Trailer Tongue -- This is the next boat-trailer component that Greviskis talks about. It's the long piece (see photo, right) that goes all the way down the boat trailer, from the coupler on back. The perfect weight distribution for the trailer tongue should be eight percent of the total boat and trailer weight combined.

DRTYF? (the imposter) · #5 05-31-2005, 06:58 PM

Who here actually thinks boat trailers are balanced on the hitch and not the axles? Anyone?

KenP · #6 06-02-2005, 03:10 AM

I hope that's not his skinny little ass on the left. Jason, say it isn't so.

DRTYF? (the imposter) · #7 06-02-2005, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Andre:
My boat is a seadoo speedster, right now i have a 2 inch drop and the boat does not sit level, just wondering what you guys were using for smaller boats or utility trailers.

I run a 11.5" for a utility trailer its real small. I have a Honda RX1200 myself and I use the 5 1/4" drop for that ski, its not perfectly level but its nice for cleaning.

Klaus · #8 05-31-2005, 07:11 PM

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Weight-carrying hitch
limit: 7,500-lb. trailer with 1,000-lb. tongue weight. Weight-distributing
hitch and sway control required over 7,500-lb. trailer weight. The vehicle
owner is responsible for obtaining the hitch ball, a hitch of the proper
size, type and capacity, and other appropriate equipment required to safely
tow both the trailer and the load that will be towed. Ask your Chevrolet
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TRANSMISSION:
AUTOMATIC AND MANUAL
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1 Maximum trailer weight
ratings are calculated assuming a base vehicle, except any option(s)
necessary to achieve the rating, plus driver. The weight of other optional
equipment, passengers and cargo required will reduce the maximum trailer
weight your vehicle can tow. See your Chevy Truck dealer for additional details.


NOTE: Trailer tongue weight should be 10
to 15 percent of total loaded trailer weight (up to 1,500 lbs.). Addition of
trailer tongue weight cannot cause vehicle weights to exceed Rear Gross Axle
Weight Rating (RGAWR) or Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR). These ratings
can be found on the certification label located on the driver door or door
frame. Z82 Heavy-Duty Trailering Equipment Package includes trailer hitch
platform, trailer electrical connector and trailer brake control harness.



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PARAGON · #9 05-31-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
Thats just not true. Sorry its not.. Not not not not not.. Ok? If you pull that kind of weight you need to use a gooseneck or some other in box hitch over the axle. No one pulls 1000lbs on the rear hitch, you'd pull wheelies.

I hate being the one to point out that your bulb is not at full wattage, but you look like a complete idiot. I have put 1000lbs of tongue weight on my H2.

I used to pull 8-15K lb offshore powerboats with rear hitches just like everybody else does. I pull dozers, tractors and all kinds of equipment with my bumper pull 3/4 ton and 1 ton farm trucks. Grow up.

PARAGON · #10 05-31-2005, 06:47 PM

Sport, sorry your experience in life has been so short, small and insignificant. I've pulled many a boat with tongue weights in the 1,000lbs+ area. The heavier the boat the more tongue weight that's needed to keep the balance right. You can't just have all the weight on the trailer tires or it would fish-tail you all over the road.

Give up on this, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground here.

PARAGON · #11 05-27-2005, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
Firstly I'd suggest an adjustable if you have more than one.. But for a boat I'd go with a 5 1/4 or 3.5" at least. I run a 11" drop for my atv and my watercraft (jetski) trailer and a 5 1/4" for my 22' (tandem axle trailer) boat.

All this kind of depends on the trailer tho. But just buy from walmart or something cause its easy to return/switch stuff with them if you dont like the fit.

Another way is to actually measure.. Hmm theres an idea I know. Just set the trailer on its jack at the height you want it ride at.. subtract 5" from that and then figure the distance between that and your receiever and you'll have your drop. *smiles*

WTF is this measuring crap about?????? Subtract 5"??????

The drop is the difference between the bottom of the lip of the tongue to the top of the inside of the receiver on the truck.

Dude, don't give out information on things you don't know anything about.

PARAGON · #12 05-31-2005, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
Im sorry thats just not true. A boat is balanced on its axels not on the hitch. OMG already get a clue.

Skippy (sorry Seth, it fits too well), don't tell me something that I have a lot of experience with is not true and what does "balanced on the axles" have anything to do with what I said.

If a 14,000lb boat is "balanced" on it's axles then it is safe to assume that more weight is on the tongue than a 4,000lb boat. Rule of thumb for others who car. Boat trailers are designed to put around 10% of the total weight on tongue. H2Gay, can you do that math?

PARAGON · #13 06-01-2005, 03:28 AM

You might be needing around an 8". I don't really remember how low those trailers ride to the ground but I bet it's not close to level with your 2" drop. They are probably running on small 14" wheels and little tires so your drop needed might be more than you think.

Just use your trailer jack and set the trailer at even, where it should run. Back the truck up to it and measure from the top of your ball you have on there now to the top of the tongue where the ball connects. This should give you a rough idea of how much more drop to buy.

You already have 2" of drop and if the measurement is, say, a little over 5" or so, you would get an 8" drop.

DRTYF? (the imposter) · #14 05-31-2005, 07:33 PM

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Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2GuyPerson:
Thats just not true. Sorry its not.. Not not not not not.. Ok? If you pull that kind of weight you need to use a gooseneck or some other in box hitch over the axle. No one pulls 1000lbs on the rear hitch, you'd pull wheelies.

I hate being the one to point out that your bulb is not at full wattage, but you look like a complete idiot. I have put 1000lbs of tongue weight on my H2.

I used to pull 8-15K lb offshore powerboats with rear hitches just like everybody else does. I pull dozers, tractors and all kinds of equipment with my bumper pull 3/4 ton and 1 ton farm trucks. Grow up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

500 lbs is the max for the h2 so you may wanna rethink that. See above post. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>500lbs is not the max. Did I not just say I've put 1000lbs on it?

500lbs is max suggested by GM for H2 w/o distribution. Doesn't mean you can't easily put more on it. Grow up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well i thought we were talking about doing this safely and proper.. My bad. Just because you do something your not supposed to do doesnt make it right.. You were wrong face it.. I win. nah nah...

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