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Old 06-19-2003, 02:10 PM
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Peter,

From what I see in the catalog, all of the multimount winches come with the hawse instead of the roller.

I agree that the disconnect switch/rear power lead isn't very well explained in the product description.

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Old 05-14-2003, 11:32 AM
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Much better.

Direct link to order online:
http://www.gowarn.com/cbSearch.asp?Product_ID=WAR65735

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Detonate:

Also, here is a good article on using Snatch Blocks properly. I read a post here where some one mistakenly thought that snatch blocks added effort/force to the winch point. The opposite is true, thus the whole reason for using one or more snatch blocks to lessen force or change direction when winching.

Australian off-road site:

http://geocities.com/RainForest/3648/4wd_winching.htm
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I have just received my Warn 9.5ti winch I purchased the multimount winch, which did come with the standard fairlead instead of the roller, from http://www.truckaddons.com instead of http://www.gowarn.com I called GoWarn twice to attempt to order from them but they didn't return the call and I was reluctant to order from them with out a conversation after reading some of your experiences. TruckAddons couldn't believe their price but looked at their web sight and agreed to sell it for $995. I paid $1110 for the winch and the rear wiring kit including shipping.

Which brings me to my real question. Where is every one mounting the solenoid I feel really stupid since I have searched this sight and appear to be the first person to ask this question. However, the walls of the engine bay around the battery is pretty full with factory equipment. Any suggestions or pictures would be greatly appreciated.

P.S.(Thank you all for all of the information on the winch, wiring, and other H2 information.)

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Old 05-16-2003, 12:56 PM
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I have not heard from gowarn yet. I called twice yesterday and emailed today. What kind of wack company tells you to handle customer service problems through email? I will definitely use that as a big old flag for all future internet purchases.
Good Hummerman, thanks for relaying your experience, you could not have known in advance that I would have bought from this guy, and they appear to be quite legit. Their is definitely truth to the saying "If it looks to good to be true, it probably is." I also have learned that I should complete a transaction first before recommending anything here at the site. The agonizing thing is that I had seen cheap deals on Ebay that I stayed away from because I was afraid of getting screwed. In the end I probably would have more security through ebay, or at least better dispute resolution.(this plug was unsolicited, and I am not an employee of ebay)
That being said, I may not be that screwed. The first question is, if I could get this guy to take the winch back, and send the right one, should I trust them? They may take the winch, open it up and attach the quick connect themselves thereby ruining the seals. I probably wouldn't discover this until it was too late. I could take care of this myself. After all I did get this for a very good price, it might be worthwhile to just get it done. Right now everything is still in the opened boxes. If I can get an exchange I don't want to jeopardize that possibility. So until I here from them it stays there. If after speaking to them it seems like I should just install myself, I will first connect the winch to the battery with the existing wires to check that it works. If I pass that hurdle then we should be able to alter it as you have said.
I would like to hear from more people who have the 9.5 installed because I think the quick connect pre-attached is a new option and some may have had to do this themselves too. I am a little puzzled by Warn stating the housing should not be opened to attach the quick connect. I have looked at the exploded diagram in the owner's manual, and it obviously comes apart. Any authorized service dealer to repair it would also have to open it. If you shine a flashlight towards the housing where the red wire disappears it does not seem like it goes through a waterproof sleeve. Once inside the diagram shows a simple bolted connection for the red lead as well. Does Warn think we can't figure out how to put the parts back?
I don't mean to go on and on about this(especially when you have posted a perfectly acceptable work around), but being somewhat mechanically inclined, I believe that anything that is assembled can be disassembled and reassembled at will. As long as it is done carefully. I had a similar problem with Apple. I got an Ipod, it got sand in it and didn't work, the apple service gurus in all NYC told me I now owned a $400 paperweight. I said no way started to take apart on my own, when I got stuck on how a part should be removed properly I searched the internet and viola, found out how to dissasemble the ipod. One that was done I cleaned it all out and it is still working more than a year since. So the moral of the story is that it can be done, but does any one know how?

Finally Hummer Man (not Good) what is the point of your post. I try not to be overly critical of your prescence, like some, but this time I can't help but question. Did your comment have anything to do with this thread? I would be happy to apologize if I'm wrong, but if I'm not why don't you go play with Andkon, somewhere else!
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Old 05-14-2003, 07:30 PM
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How much cheaper is the 9000 lbs winch?

I was reading in the manual where it says that pulling over 9000 lbs will bend the H2 frame. In my mind that means, get the cheaper winch, it'll do the same job, and not bend your frame.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I'm also cheap.

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Yeah, Paragon,

Good Find...

I replaced the steel cable with the X-Line synthetic and was very impressed with its quality. The only concern that I have is that the X-Line might be too strong.

This definitely looks like THE place to get a Warn 9.5ti for a H2.

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Yikes!
I've got my fingers crossed. I hope they learned a thing or two from the poor service they provided you. I did get the 20' cable since I had read the post (I think it was yours) earlier that 20 was enough. Also the issue with the front wiring connection was mentioned. What I was told I was getting, sounds more like the set up that Warn described to you. Maybe Warn, hearing about your complaint staightened them out. I'm very sorry to here about your problem, and will definitely let everyone know how this works out.
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Detonate:

I recall the post you speak of. The H2 owner was using a Warn 8000 to extract a tree stump when the REAR receiver was bent.

I've removed tree stumps on our family farm, but we used a tractor in low gear and chains attached directly to the frame hook.

I personally wouldn't use a winch for anything other than pulling my vehicle out of a stuck situation or rescuing another vehicle. Trying to move truly immobile objects can damage your pocket book real fast (e.g. damage to frame, Transfer Case, Tranny). If you intend on adhering to this same practice, then you'll be fine with a 9.5ti.
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Peter ran off to hockey so-

Sorry for any mixup (he probably just grabbed the number for the kit instead of the winch as we ordered the kit as well)! Minor technical glitch there -- but we did order the 9.5 w/ Multi-mount for $957.00 from Go Warn.
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I have the 9.5 TI and love it. I got the winch, mount, cover and recovery kit for 1283 including shipping. Just beware you will have to drill a hole in the multi mount and purchase a lock pin. I bought a pin from BULLY that slips in from the underside and locks. It works great. I bought my winch from www.clemson4wheel.com

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Ok, don't remember them all needing the vert pin, but thanks for answering the question.

Just trying to learn how to do things. Having some problems finding consistent answers with this stuff.

Again, thanks for the reply.
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BKLYNH2,
Sorry to tell you but what you got was a put together kit. The 9.5 Ti winch when bought alone does come with roller fairlead but when bought with the multimount kit does not. Even WARN sells them this way : http://products.warn.com/warn.nsf/wa...ucts.Main.html

Mine came delivered in a sealed Warn box with the pictured WARN 9.5Ti multimount setup
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Have the hole drilled, and weld the others if you feel the need. All the cradles are the same. It's the cradle not the winch that is pinned.

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Dealer called warn ...
Warn has a contract with GM that they sell the mounts to with the vertical holes. Warn dealers/warn are not allowed to sell these aftermarket. They do not recommend drilling holes in aftermarket mounts. The warn dealer will not install the winch for me and said he really shouldn't even sell it to me because he knows I'll have to drill the vertical hole.

Sounds like GM has a monopoly on the warn winch mounts unless you want to take the liability with weaking the mount by drilling the vertical hole.

Personally, I don't really feel comfortable with drilling the hole or increasing the liability for me or others.

Thanks for the input, and I guess I'll have to look at other options...
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BKLYNH2:
"Then the rear cable kit came with the solenoid switch anyway, even though this is not explained in the product description. Since it came, I installed it and am now glad I did."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Peter,

Because I didn't get the quick-connect from gowarn (after paying for it), I had to buy one and discovered that they come in sets of two. I took the "spare" quick-disconnect and replaced one end on a set of heavy-duty battery cables and now I am ready to "quickly" give jump starts. The best part is that with the solenoid, making physical connections to the other battery is isloated from my electrical system and until I flip the switch to the solenoid and energize the circuit --- no sparks and reduced danger of damage. Now, I probably won't see anyone needing a jump...

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Any updates on this?
I'm interested in getting a multimount 9.5ti as well and am looking for a nice price like gowarn offers.

What all do you need to order?

Trying to learn, thanks.
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Ok. So winch + mount = 957.00 and the Kit, Cable thing was a seperate 109.95???

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Sorry, here's the link for the winch :
http://www.gowarn.com/cbSearch.asp?Product_ID=WAR65735
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