WARNING ON RACNHO LIFT

[Humm3r]

Who are you....the spokesperson for Rancho?

[4churchill]

I drove the SEMA H3 that rancho did, last week, and I had the same feelings. Also the brakes were not up to the task.

Well off to plan B Tim

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MyxH3:
LOL so are you selling it then? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, It's going back to Rancho!

[VTSTOMPER]

sorry to hear, er, read the news!

[MyxH3]

I agree Rancho makes good shocks... Well actually Monroe makes them, Rancho just puts their name on them. As far as the Quality of the Rancho system, it looks to be built nicely, good welds, nice paint ect.but theres alot more to the design than just looks. From the two kits that I have seen installed (not including tims, which I didnt see)The same problems have arisen for these owners as well, complaints of poor braking, bad handling as well as the compatable use of the stock tires/wheels. One of the people I know has already has had the kit taken off and returned it. The other is planning on haiving it taken off. The dealer oem Warranty is completed voided by using this kit reguardless of what TallJeep says. Maybe not from all dealers in the world but out here in Arizona is sure is. I have put over 700 miles of offroad use on my H3 and believe that one of the only issues with the H3 is clearance. I look forward to lifting mine like many others do and just want to have the right combination of height and handling without having to spend alot of wasted money just because it is a H3 and not a Chevy Colorado/Canyon (compare Lift Kit prices). I also have a Jeep with a RC 6" lift and it performs great with zero bumpsteer, articulates great, has plenty of clearance and allows me to use 33" tires without rubbing without any funky backspacing problems. It was affordable and EZ to install and the vehicle aligned with no problems at all. If Rough Country is going to offer the same product for the H3, well Thats awesome.I know I wont be putting on a Rancho kit, Thats for sure. I know hundreds of Jeep owners but not one of them actually owns a rancho lift although a great deal of them have the Monroe (Rancho) Shocks including me. I would really love to see other companies such as Rubicon Express, Rock Krawler as well as any other manufacture offer a lift for the H3. It would be great to more options and competition to bring the prices down to realitiy. I love the performance of my H3 and its offroad capabilities are great for being a stock vehicle with a Locker. I too look forward to having it for years and using it for what it was designed for. "Offroading". I just hate hearing people that Dont own an H3, tell people that do own one what the problem is and why. Course that is just my opinion,I could be wrong.

[Humm3r]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">quote:
Originally posted by Operator24:

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Originally posted by Alec W:

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Originally posted by Operator24:

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Originally posted by Alec W:
Whatdiddickforbrainssay?


Well that was constructive.

Thx


I took the liberty of nominating you here because of you're outstanding display earlier...

http://www.thestupidawards.com/

I bet you win the '06 award hands down. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


You're the winner of the "Too much time on my hands Award"

[Operator24]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:

Whatdiddumbf.ucksaynow?

Who gives a flying f.uck about your "coverage" for the largest off road publication in the world when all you did was suck a lot of dick.

Are you going to report me to some unheard of website for stupid people again

LMAO. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Its pretty easy to talk a lot of crap on the web... but to torque me, its going to take a lot more than anything you can come up with sport.

You can stop trying to act cool in front of your friends now.

[4churchill]

I'm pretty sure Tall Jeeper is ghey

[Sewie]

Thanks for all the info Tim. Will be interesting to hear how Rancho responds to this. Be sure to keep us updated.

BTW, the truck <STRIKE>looks</STRIKE> looked great. Hope you figure out a fix.

[hmrlvr]

Well Timco tried the Rancho and we all learned. Who will be the 1st to try the Rough Country. Thanks for all the good info and follow up's Timco I'm sure you saved alot of people some time and trouble.

[Dan Rather]

Rancho products are sub standard. Their shocks have half the half the life that other similarly priced shocks do. Their lifts are barely safe.

And they paid for that SEMA award.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hmrlvr:
Well Timco tried the Rancho and we all learned. Who will be the 1st to try the Rough Country. Thanks for all the good info and follow up's Timco I'm sure you saved alot of people some time and trouble. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Glad I could help. Donations can be sent through paypal.

[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Talljeeper:
Nah, I dont work for Rancho.....in fact coming from a competitive racing fourwheelin' world Rancho is so so due to their conservative approach to suspension lifts.

To make a blanket statement that they suck based upon one individuals experience is ludicrous.<span class="ev_code_RED">that was my opinion on this lift! I don't see where anyone else even said that</span>

I ran down to 10# last weekend over some of the best trails Washington state has to offer and this was all day! Nary a rub....I am also running 35" rubber on 17" Moto's<span class="ev_code_RED">good for you and Jeep.</span>

The knuckle BOLT not the knuckle clears by over half an inch! If a guy was really tripped out over that clearance on the bolt (more than adequate by the way) you could easily replace it with a low profile quality high grade fastener...no biggy<span class="ev_code_RED">The nuckle was more the issue than the bolt was. When you air down to 18 (not that low of a preassure either) You can get the knuckle to stuff into the sidewall at certain angles. I didn't spend 5K on a lift/ rims, and tires so I can drive ti on the street,</span>

With regards to the "knuckle" there is almost an inch clearance without the bolt.... <span class="ev_code_RED">not true ont he setup I had.</span>

If you notice the RC pics the tires extend past the fenders even with stock rims.....ok so....does that mean their setup sucks...hardly. Its a flippin wheel configuration.<span class="ev_code_RED">And that's fine. Nothing some custom flares for $1000 couldn't fix. I think that would lokk like sh1t too!</span>

Reason 3...truck doesn't "feel" stable....sounds like a personal subjective opinion to me....not a design flaw ( I guess if your cruisin north 25 out of Denver at 75-80 I could see why due to the construction, heII nothing would seem stable)<span class="ev_code_RED">You are correct about the I25 North comment, but it was on 470, 25 South, I70 and didn't matter the road surface. But you are correct none the less. I 25 construction sucks in everything.</span>

I could give a s*it less what people choose to buy for their rigs, but posting BS, is just that.<span class="ev_code_RED">Yep, Rancho should advertise that a20' rim is needed. I agree with you.</span>

It is obvious that many posters don't have a lot of knowledge when comes to fourwheelers, fourwheelin, or moddin trucks. Hopefully those that do will respond with accurate experienced based feedback. </div></BLOCKQUOTE><span class="ev_code_RED">I'm sure that statement won't raise any hell! Well, Mr Pro Jeeper, I have responded to every one of your dumbass comments excpet for tha last one about the "posters" not knowing anything about fourwheelersm four wheelin, or modded trucks. that's just a troll statement. You should go back to your pro racing world of Jeeps. LMAO!</span>

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H3 Guy:
myxH3 agreed, although trackbar plays little if any role. My point was that bumpsteer is not the same as an IFS as stated by someone else. With a rack and pin setup, the placement of the rack in reference to the tie rod end location ( along with A arm length) is what gives you bumpsteer. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You are trying to pigeon hole it for the sake of some argument. Bump steer is simply the toe being out temporarily for what-ever reason. Whether it be due to droop of IFS or flex in the linkage on a SFA, bump steer is bump steer.

[Operator24]

Well if thats all ya got I guess I'll let you keep your dignity, whats left of it anyway.

[KenP]

Tim, sorry I missed this. That sucks.

You need to keep us informed on how Rancho handles this.

Maybe Rancho needs to designate their lifts as not good for wheeling because of the rim requirements.

[NoMoGMPG]

Rancho used to make good offroad gear. Now it is just mostly rebadged products or lift/suspension kits suitable for faux-wheeling at the mall parking lot or tractor pulls.

A supposed offroad enhancement like a lift kit that doesn't allow for the industry standard of 15/16/17" wheels to be aired down? BS.

Can you say "Poseur"? Sure you can...Rancho.

I'll be looking to Teraflex for "well thought out" suspension packages. Rancho is relegated to the J.C. Whitney group of suppliers.

[Operator24]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Whatdiddickforbrainssay? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well that was constructive.

[ETD]

Yes, thanks for the heads-up. As I had said, was gonna get one. Sorry it didn't work out

[Talljeeper]

Nah, I dont work for Rancho.....in fact coming from a competitive racing fourwheelin' world Rancho is so so due to their conservative approach to suspension lifts.

To make a blanket statement that they suck based upon one individuals experience is ludicrous.

I ran down to 10# last weekend over some of the best trails Washington state has to offer and this was all day! Nary a rub....I am also running 35" rubber on 17" Moto's

The knuckle BOLT not the knuckle clears by over half an inch! If a guy was really tripped out over that clearance on the bolt (more than adequate by the way) you could easily replace it with a low profile quality high grade fastener...no biggy

With regards to the "knuckle" there is almost an inch clearance without the bolt....

If you notice the RC pics the tires extend past the fenders even with stock rims.....ok so....does that mean their setup sucks...hardly. Its a flippin wheel configuration.

Reason 3...truck doesn't "feel" stable....sounds like a personal subjective opinion to me....not a design flaw ( I guess if your cruisin north 25 out of Denver at 75-80 I could see why due to the construction, heII nothing would seem stable)

I could give a s*it less what people choose to buy for their rigs, but posting BS, is just that.

It is obvious that many posters don't have a lot of knowledge when comes to fourwheelers, fourwheelin, or moddin trucks. Hopefully those that do will respond with accurate experienced based feedback.