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11-30-2005, 09:35 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2 Rocks:
Won't anything else just get bent too? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The cage that Adam and Alec have look 10 times beefier than stock cage. It certainly wouldn't bend as easy at the playdoh stock cage.
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Negative,
you would only have to wait 18 months if you wanted the items 18 months ago. I am not going to shoot myself in the foot again and say when exactly I am going to be ready but I am trying to have everything (not just the Underbody stuff) done and ready to go aroud February.
Just a tid bit of info; solid bar is only about 1.25 times stronger in column strength vs. a pipe of the same diameter. The impact strength of solid bar is better but the strength to withstand bending is not that much greater. Thus the need for a better design in contact points to the frame and different structural material is needed for the best protection. It has been a while but if I recall correctly I selected the material that I used for my midrails because it was 5 times stronger than that of round pipe. Sorry if that was to much info.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMPartsGuy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMPartsGuy:
What problem is there with the RubberDuck UCP? I have it on mine, albeit an H1, and it is VERY heavy duty and well made. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>From a few pics I remember seeing, the same as the stock UCP. It bends up in the wrong places and is only slightly beefier than stock. Once bent up, round tubing UCP has weakened and no longer holds it's strength. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The stock UCP may be tubing, but the RD product is solid bar stock and doesn't bend very easily if at all. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Not unless he changed it. I think it even said it was 1" tubing on his website.
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11-30-2005, 10:48 PM
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All right Alec don't rub it in.  Obviously I have been behind the ball for some time now, but I am getting very close to start filling your order as well as others that have been waiting. I have been laying low and trying to get everything lined up so I don't have to make others suffer as you, Adam, and a few others have. When I get back in the game I will have the complete front skid, mid rails, and rock rails, front and rear bumpers, and roof racks, along with a couple of other neat items I have been toying with.
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The rib bone is connected to the skid plate,
The skid plate is connected to the.....
Oh well, forget it.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMPartsGuy:
What problem is there with the RubberDuck UCP? I have it on mine, albeit an H1, and it is VERY heavy duty and well made. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>From a few pics I remember seeing, the same as the stock UCP. It bends up in the wrong places and is only slightly beefier than stock. Once bent up, round tubing UCP has weakened and no longer holds it's strength.
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11-30-2005, 09:30 PM
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Have you CO guys talked with Matt over at Rockware? http://www.rockware.net
I know they do custom fab stuff for Rovers and Yotas. (I used to have some of their suspension components on the D90)
He might be a good resource and they do have a rockcrawling focus. It seems like the potential customer base for H2s is large enough to justify some $ for R&D (on his end).
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Sure I knew, I don't mind it's not like it shows that I am a bad driver,  or does it
we will have to talk again about the difference I am a little fuzzy on it. or we can just talk about it when you come down to get your new front and rear bumper!  </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Not going to happen, snapperhead.  
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2Oguy:
or we can just talk about it when you come down to get your new front and rear bumper! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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11-30-2005, 09:08 PM
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My skid plate and stock undercarriage cage are toast after that last Moab run.
What is the concensus on the best replacement/upgrade? I've hear the Rubber Duck option "has problems". So, what should I get?
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I am getting close to being ready to mass produce, but not there yet. If others are willing to wait for my equipment it is only fair to offer a group purchase/discount. but I am not quite there yet. Sorry
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I've had Rubber Duck's UCP for about 1 1/2 years and have not had any problems. I've been through several boulder fields/dry creek beds. The other H2's with stock UCP on the trip were bent up pretty good.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by CO Hummer:
So, to summarize......
The only options:
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Sounds like it. 
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What problem is there with the RubberDuck UCP? I have it on mine, albeit an H1, and it is VERY heavy duty and well made.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
Did you see the mid section protection he made for Adam and I just prior to Moab? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Yes, but I thought it was just a custom prototype, not for sale. I'd like one of those cause they seem perfect.
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Screw your underbody protection Alan.
Where the hell is my rear winch bumper DRTY???
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by KenP:
Waiting Neil. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>x2
Neil. Drop everything else you were even thinking about doing. GITRDONE now.
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