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09-27-2003, 04:07 PM
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I said it in the other thread, I feel bad for the poor bastard that buys the 04. Quite the downgrade. If this is what they did, imagine the shortcuts in the areas you can't see?
The NAV is the first clue. What a dissapointing piece of ****. With all the money we spend, GM should try not to **** it up. Who cares if sales go down because of this.
02 and 03 models are definately better.
Now I realize that the H3 will be just as disappointing(I hope I'm wrong).
As for the antenna on the side vent, I imagine alot are going to be TORN off by those elf freaks(too exposed and vunerable).
04 H2 downgraded...GREAT!...More...definately more fuel for the trolls...sigh...
He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover
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10-01-2003, 05:27 PM
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Why would we expect such things as a NAv with a separate CD changer (GM parts bin has one that would fit where the useless OnStar buttons are that is used in the old Escalades) and a camera so you can see when you back up and don't kill anyone when we can't even get a $.15 plastic holder for our change or hanger hooks?
03 Sunset H2!
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09-27-2003, 01:44 PM
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Detonate,
Does your rear seat come with a shoulder belt?
Also my other question which I can't get answered by the H2 helpline..
Does the rear seat have the setup for a third LATCH safety seat?
That's my main holdback on buying one..I want to make sure my baby is safe back there..
Thanks
Larry
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09-29-2003, 11:19 PM
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Tucson, if you don't mind can you tell us the cost of your system?
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09-26-2003, 09:00 PM
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They mounted the antenna to the freekin side vent???? I call BS
Thanks for the pics Detonate!
- Dan
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09-27-2003, 04:51 PM
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RMST, Hummer interior is exceptionally comfortable, functional, handsome and well put together. I have no intention to change your mind or convince you otherwise, obviously German interiors are what fit your taste for the time being, stick with People's cars(VW). Hummer interior fits the image and style of the Hummer exactly right.
The 04 change is good news for all 03 owners, glad they did a half-hearted poor job, that helps to maintain the value of 03 Hummers, I've been worrying that Hummer may do too good a job on the 04. Every auto maker is obligated to make some change to their cars every year, often meaningless small changes like these. I am just very surprised how trivia, irrelevant and ugly the changes are. You would think with all the money and people they have at Hummer or GM, they'd know better. Or maybe this is due to the fact that 03 Hummer is simply too nice or too perfect, how do you improve Mona Lisa? 
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09-30-2003, 03:39 PM
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One thing I wouldnt mind seeing in the future of H2's is all four automatic windows, for down and up, instead of just the driver...Just like my lexus...That would be nice.
- mindless
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09-30-2003, 01:51 PM
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Tuscon,
It does seem more logical to mount the camera up top. Swapping the camera to hitch would be too tedious. Your way you could see your tow load also.
DVJ,
Your observation and decision was bang on. I think though(except for the antenna and that ****box NAV etc...)my critcism on the 04 was too harsh.
Apperantly, that have taken most of the issues and deficiencies that we on the Forum complained about(well some of us  ). But on the downside they have added their own such as the antenna, NAV, wheel,etc. I think on balance the 04 is slightly better if not the same as the 03. These GM boys should be looking into this Forum and taking notes not listening to a bunch of pencil necks.
He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover
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09-28-2003, 08:48 AM
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*CLICK* " Notify me of new posts by Buckeye Hummer"
He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover
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09-29-2003, 06:56 PM
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I put in an after market NAV system along with a rear camera. I can play my radio-CDs at the same time I am using the NAV system or camera. I placed the monitor at the end of the small roof console (I have sunroof) - it looks like it belongs there as original equipment (it is natural to look up at that screen position).
The NAV system is the Pioneer AVIC-80DVD with a slick Pioneer monitor AVD-W6210. If you want pictures let me know - I will be away from forum until weekend - I can post pictures at that time.
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09-28-2003, 11:39 PM
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Can't wait to see that air bag stuff.
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09-26-2003, 08:16 PM
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Hey! It looks like the center seat belt has a shoulder strap......Very cool
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09-26-2003, 08:08 PM
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Another shot of the NAV in Night Mode. It auto changes from Day to Night mode. It was just very DIM in the dealership.
-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
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09-27-2003, 05:16 PM
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Look for big changes in 05, possibly new engine maybe even losing the solid rear axle. 2004 is prep work for 05 so they can have more time to feel out the market.
I hate the steering wheel, my 03 is the tan insert and looks much more bold. I'm not even going to talk about the nav system. You can buy two streetpilots III for that price and they absolutely rock! Dennis probably has the best point about the new antenna. They are just asking to be pulled off by the local elf dickhead. I'm still having fun with what I have done to my 03 H2:
Sirius Satellite Radio
Warn xd9000i winch wired front and rear
AM General 5' basket roof rack
Cobra mobile CB with 3' whip antenna
20,000 lb. tow straps
and my favorite, the level-meter that tells me the degree of incline.
Nope, no major cutting or engine changes just things to make my H2 more functional on and off-road.
Soon to have:
Chromeolly tie-rods
New air bag system adjustable from 1-5" in lift with 4500 lb. bags vs. stock 1800lb.
I still love Hummers and actually leave my business cards on ones I see around town inviting them to this forum and our SoCal runs.
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10-04-2003, 08:33 PM
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So the above pictures show my Pioneer NAV system and Rear camera setup. In pic #5 you can see the black mic for the voice command capabilities of the NAV system. I can use the NAV in a location that is great (also for the camera view). You can switch back and forth from NAV to rear camera (rear camera is automatic when in reverse). I can listen to my 6-CD stock unit at the same time. I think this is still a better approach than the 2004 NAV/CD system.
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09-30-2003, 03:43 PM
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Mine has Express down on Driver and Passenger windows.
Yes, I think all 4 windows would be good BUT with an Express Up feature as well.
He ain't heavy.....
He's ma HUMMER baby!
03 NUDE Pewter Lux H2
03 Dressed Range Rover
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10-01-2003, 06:27 PM
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I have hanger hooks...
'03 H2 Sunset Orange No mods
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10-04-2003, 08:21 PM
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NJH2 & DennisAJC
Here are the pictures of my Pioneer DVD NAV system and Monitor along with Rear Camera. BTW the camera is made by Rosen and the Pioneer monitor is a touch-screen type, lastly the NAV system is controlled by touch-remote-voice systems.
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09-26-2003, 08:03 PM
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Steering Wheel
-Jim March
Arlington TX
2003 Red H2
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10-04-2003, 08:27 PM
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5th Picture
"It's what you learn, after you know it all, that counts - John Wooden
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