Rust Issue

[West Point H2]

I have a three week old white adventure series.
I opted to not get the dealer undercoating because of the reputation that they often do a "spray can" type job. I started noticing some trace rust around the rear differential etc. I took my H2 to the local Ziebart rust proofing center and had it and paint protectant done. The rep told me that the factory puts a thin wax coat on the frame and undercarriage that wears off in short order. Ziebart chemically cleans and removes all residue from the undercarriage, and then applies several coats of rust protectant. They did an excellent job, guaranteed for 5 years... looks similar to Phil's picture upon completion... the cost - $199. The diamond coat paint protectant is well worth the $ as well... no waxing for 5 years, or so they say. It is very easy to remove dirt though, everything, and I mean everything rinses off completely at the car wash. Reading these horror stories about rust made me want to be as proactive as I can.

[buddy]

With all this rust chatter I had to put on the coveralls, grab a flashlight and take a look under the ol' beast and see for myself. It's been a couple of months or so since I had a look around.

It was pretty much as I had expected. Most of the fasteners, the torison bars keys, steering knuckles, and rear drivetrain housing has some rust. Some of the rusty areas will get much worse without attention, and some areas will always have no more than a surface rust. IMO, I believe most this rust we're seeing, is nothing more than cosmetic to the underside. Either way it definitely needs to be addressed by the dealer. Rust to the sheetmetal would be totally unacceptable, period.

I could stop or slow down the rusting fasteners and such, but would rather let someone else do it these days. I don't have any desire to start one of thoses rustproffing jobs like I went through a long time ago, and eventually lost. Not a GM product though, a MB 450SL.

I have a good dealer, will check with him tomorrow.

[Paintdog]

Haha Good one Hum2!

[Duramax Diesel for H2]

Good idea, peserve the under coating that's on your rig by getting a stronger more adhesive coat of it. Great idea bet other owners who are experiencing rust wish they would have doen what your going to do.

[Duramax Diesel for H2]

That could possibly be cause Ford might you a better more effective rust protector that GM uses. Maybe GM is just try to save money where ever it can. Undercoating is one way they could save money cause it's not something people usually look at at all.

[Hungedu]

I am ordering my H2 this month, and my dealer seemed unaware of the rust issues when I brought it up to him. After reading all of the earlier posts about premature rust, I will be taking my new H2 straight to Ziebart after driving it off the dealer lot. I figure there's nothing wrong with this little preventative measure!

[funpilot]

When I finally get my new Hummer, can I proctively manage this rust issue by asking the dealer to spray protective coating or do it myself before it begins? And is there anything you guys can do for your existing vehicles?

[Michael]

You know, I bet you the dealer will pay close attention to it when you go to trade in your H2 for a newer one in a few years.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I've never had any type of rust problems on any other vehicle that I've owned.

Does the H1 have this problem?

[Hum2]

My dealer just shrugged it off. The rust is showing up on components that won't fail for the life of the vehicle, (they won't get warranty $$$ for it), so they could care less. They (dealers/GM/AMG) also, could care less about how things looks under the vehicle.

Here's another one for Hummer Customer Assistance...they will simply tell you to see your local dealer, they are the technical experts....Ha!...in taking your money, that is.

[HummerGirl]

hmmm...am going to check mine out too...I would definitely be all over the dealer about the Lemon Law thing. Did you ask about that????

~amy

White 2003 H2
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[rpv]

guys and gals,
about this lemon law thing...how do we find out about it per state bec obviously the dealers will have other priorities and try to steer us the wrong way...any suggestions???
rpv

[GA_GOLD]

I would love to know what the story is with rust on the H2 ..

With less than 5K miles, I'm already seeing the u-joints, drive axle and other under carriage components rust.. So far the only wet sources have been rainy days in GA this spring... Here's what the GM rep said .."This is normal with unpainted parts "..Well duh ..So why does my 17 year old 4Runner have less or my 1998 F-150 4x4 ??.... I'm curious why others aren't rusting and some are .... Since my 1 year loaner Denali has similar issues , it appears GM is cutting corners to save $$ .. Who wants an SUV or Any vehicle with a rusting undercarriage .??.. Oh yeah if you read your rust warranty these parts ARE NOT covered under your rust warranty !!….

I’ve seen Hummer_Girl’s website and this is nearly identical to the rust ( corrosion ) I am seeing .. You can’t make any rational person believe this is “normal” per the BS the GM service manager spouted in response to my leaving the H2 at the dealership. It is either defective manufacturing or really piss poor quality control .. I’m sorry in a nearly 60K automobile , this is not acceptable !!!

Talk about Aggravating !!!… Any one want to buy a rusting H2 ?
5/19/03

[SJ]

Sorry to hear that HAMVI got a lemon. Unfortunately, it happens to all makes.

I have only owned one Japanese vehicle [Toyota 4Runner] and it was complete garbage (e.g. Underpowered, Tranny Slipping, Electrical Issues, Cramped, etc.). Others praise Toyota, so go figure.

My folks have a BMW X5 and it has been plagued with glitches in addition to the fact that it's worthless coming up the hill to our house when more than 6" of snow cover the ground. The dealership has a snobbish attitude also - I'll pass on buying German - thanks anyway.

Better luck with your next vehicle; again, truly sorry to hear this.

[Duramax Diesel for H2]

Man it's a loss when we lose any member but losing HAMVI so early in his post is a real loss. Sorry HAMVI that you received a lemon. Have you gone to your dealer for a refund? If they don't give you a refund, Refer to the lemon law i know we have one her in texas and it can be a life saver if you've received a LEMON. Sorry to lose you.

[MAC]

Could it be just a bad shift of bottom painters at the Hummer plant or frame supplier's plant. My guess is the frame came painted and pre-assembled from a supplier or sub-contractor. That shift of workers did not follow the same guidelines. We have all seen workers dedicated to their jobs and workers who absolutely don't give a #@$%**@ about their jobs and self-worth. Workers in other smaller plants do not share the same pride in building a Hummer because it is just a frame No. XXXXX they are putting together, could be any one or combo of hundreds of reasons, labor issues that week. Hummer should have a strict QC to spot the problem parts in plant.

[funpilot]

I'll offer you 20K for it. Then spend $200 on undercoating.

[TJ]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by rpv:
guys and gals,
about this lemon law thing...how do we find out about it per state bec obviously the dealers will have other priorities and try to steer us the wrong way...any suggestions???
rpv<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The lemon law varies state by state, so it will depend on which state you live in. A good starting place to send you in the right direction would be a search right here on the good ol' Internet. Just go to your search engine, type in the STATE you live in and then LEMON LAW and it should bring up quite a few places for you to start your research.

[HummerGirl]

damn that's a great job you did under there...how'd you do it???THe dealers are going to look at mine this weekend coming up and are gonna tell me what to do next with it. With 20 H2s showing up...I am gonna check under each one and see what the deal is and also find out the production dates.

I wish you would come and do mine. Did you just spray it on??

~amy

White 2003 H2
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[Duramax Diesel for H2]

Probably not for vehicles that are already experiencing rust. If I were you i'd get that old undercoating scaped off and get some heavy duty rust coating put on by through after market. This is an investment and as with an investment you want it to keep it's value. Can't think of a better way to prevent rust other than getting new under coating that will last for the life of the vehicle. Not the cheap under coating that GM had decided to use on the H2. Check 3M I believe they make under coating.

[Duramax Diesel for H2]

Anyone have any updates on the rust issue and what the cause of it is?