Why the FJ Cruiser is no Threat to the H3

[NEOCON1]

hey dumb valley , if your test drivers didant break anything , it must not of been much of a test thats the whole point in testing , to see what you can break . the true Moab expierience includes bustin your $hit a thousand miles from home , sounds like you are not up to it



FJ = 2 wheel drive mall cruiser

the proof is the 6 speed wtf ???????????? highway cruiser

all you need is a 3 speed for old school wheelin !!!!!!!!!!!

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by sfox

The H3's that broke, broke on the golden stairs, which depending on your wheelbase, is equal to or harder than PSH...if you haven't seen/driven them both, then shut it Toyota tool...and once again ANYONE can beat a rig that they don't have to fix, it don't mean a thing unless you bring your own junk. Seriously, if a car manufacturer gave me a sedan and paid me to try and run trail with it, I'd sure as hell beat the rig until it couldn't go any further...as long as I didn't have to fix it. PSH is a tough obstacle, but not an H3 eater

I have in all seriousness invited anyone from the FJ forum that is interested to come out to our event this month, so far noone has even commented on the thread.

S

where? linky I'll comment. Hell, I'd love to wheel with other vehicles, especially new ones that no one is sure what it's capabilities are.

[DRTYFN]

OMFG!!! The hobbit has gone mad with power.

[31_bandits]

i don't blame the FJ dudes for not hopping at the opportunity.

all this inter-brand rivalry makes me a bit leery at times as well. over the weekend i was advised by a guy with a really BIG jeep to air down to 3psi in my tires, and he said it was practically zero-chance that i'd blow a bead.

was he trying to help, or was that hand about 1/2" from his camera hoping the hummer would blow a bead so he could take pictures of it and spread them across all 31 continents in the nearest 11 solar systems as "proof" that hummers sucked?

How many times in america this year will some dude try to get somebody elses $70k H2 all scratched up just for kicks? it'll happen

His jeep was HUGE. he had 40-something inch tires that stuck out about 8" to a foot on either side. it was cool

and my hummer was too wide to really go on most of the trails w/o concern. An Audi could have driven some of the trails, and could have done it alot faster than i did in th ehummer. In that type of place, it would have been alot more fun in a jeep.

[31_bandits]

or possibility of malice aside, wouldn't it be better / more fun to offroad with a bunch of people that you knew wanted you to make it up the hill and over the rock, rather than worry that somebody wanted you to fail?

i know you ******* guys would help anybody driving anything as best you could, but the FJ dudes might not be as certain about that.

I think it would be fun if i got one of everything and compared them. save some pennies.

[Aubs]

Originally Posted by 31_bandits

or possibility of malice aside, wouldn't it be better / more fun to offroad with a bunch of people that you knew wanted you to make it up the hill and over the rock, rather than worry that somebody wanted you to fail?

i know you ******* guys would help anybody driving anything as best you could, but the FJ dudes might not be as certain about that.

I think it would be fun if i got one of everything and compared them. save some pennies.

Yes, I think you should go out, and get each of these vehicles and we can test them to the fullest of their abilities. Then we can truly have arguements. And you can have a thousand trail rigs.

[31_bandits]

what would there be to include?

I'm not particularily interested in "wildly modified hummer -vs- wildly modified toyota" contests. That has nothing to do with hummer, jeep, toyota, or anything else. Given a few bucks, you could make a Geo Tracker a great offroad machine in the jeep mold, no? Same basic product when you're done, perhaps?

those things should have heir own brand, maybe something like "Wanger". What do you wheel? "A Wanger". that has a nice ring.

But you'd compare Rubicon, the 3 hummers, a pickup or 2 - maybe one big, one small, an LR3 or Rangie Rovie, a G500 and an FJ...

really, what else is there to compare? does anything else really lay claim to offroad excellence? I guess i'm short an FJ, an H1, a 'Benz, and a Land Rover, but could otherwise borrow (or already own) the other vehicles.

That would actually be really fun, but to be sure it would be the most honest test if the tester owned all the vehicles... minimize the prejudice and bribery that basically defines most reviews of, well, any kind.

[Aubs]

Originally Posted by 31_bandits

what would there be to include?

I'm not particularily interested in "wildly modified hummer -vs- wildly modified toyota" contests. That has nothing to do with hummer, jeep, toyota, or anything else. Given a few bucks, you could make a Geo Tracker a great offroad machine in the jeep mold, no? Same basic product when you're done, perhaps?

those things should have heir own brand, maybe something like "Wanger". What do you wheel? "A Wanger". that has a nice ring.

But you'd compare Rubicon, the 3 hummers, a pickup or 2 - maybe one big, one small, an LR3 or Rangie Rovie, a G500 and an FJ...

really, what else is there to compare? does anything else really lay claim to offroad excellence? I guess i'm short an FJ, an H1, a 'Benz, and a Land Rover, but could otherwise borrow (or already own) the other vehicles.

That would actually be really fun, but to be sure it would be the most honest test if the tester owned all the vehicles... minimize the prejudice and bribery that basically defines most reviews of, well, any kind.

Well, there are some who say that the Toureg is a 'true' off-road competitor. You'd have to include that just to shut them up.

[GLBLWARMR]

Cuase

[DTHVLY]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

So, the H3 would have surely broken on PS, the H2s did it because of their width and wheelbase and the FagJalopy can't because it's wheelbase and tires.

In case you missed it, the FJ did Potato Salad and didn't break...

[DTHVLY]

I love how you guys try to rationalize it:

Originally Posted by PhilD

"the right side of PSH is hardly the most difficult thing in the World"

Originally Posted by sfox

"he has made the easy part of PSH and nothing else"

You got to wonder if it?s so easy why have no H3?s even attempted it and only a few H2?s have made it up the quote ?easy part??

Not saying that it didn?t make it but tell me again where I keep saying it made it to the top?

[HummerNewbie]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

Not saying that it didn?t make it but tell me again where I keep saying it made it to the top?

Can not see where this could be construed as anything but saying it did but not in so many words.

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

In case you missed it, the FJ did Potato Salad and didn't break...

[DTHVLY]

You can argue semantics all you want while you?re at it why don?t you check to see what the meaning of the word ?is? is and maybe we can figure out if Clinton really got sucked off in the Oval Office. Mean while the FJ has done more off road in three months than the H3 has done in over a year yet many here still try to marginalize it by labeling it a mall cruiser, KY Cruiser etc....

BTW-Not that you?re going to believe it but it did make it to the top; A-TRAC is a very good thing.

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by DTHVLY

Mean while the FJ has done more off road in three months than the H3 has done in over a year

Give me a fukkin break! Holy troll statement!

Maybe I missed it, but have you ever explained exactly why you have such a hard-on for the FJ.