Rock rails

[H2Finally]

Hey don't laugh! Para, I had the same idea for a while! But I was thinking of using some heavy-duty pallet jack wheels. I think it's a grand idea to be able to use any wheel to "roll" the truck over any sticking points.

But I would mount it around the rear diff first, which to me is the biggest trouble spot. Any ideas??

[PARAGON]

That was similar to what I had in my mind, but I was trying to figure out a way to put a bar on the outsides of the torsion bars so that they are in between 2 pieces and protected from both sides.

It would have to have a custom mount up at the front and angle up or something though.

[NoMoGMPG]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Well, I don't see an aftermarket kit for H2 under body protection. So I guess I will have to make something unless someone knows any different.

I am worried about the rear diff too H. I think the wheel thing is a great idea, however, it is another movable component to worry about.

I'm thinking something like the undershield (just posterior to the skid plate) but with a steel panel veneer to slide on. Because if you just add another undershield you get that same 'catch' problem. The pumpkin can just have a two bar frame and a steel panel with hinges for access if needed. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

How about the "scary duck"? Tell him "Harley Dave" sent you...

[DRTYFN]

Yes, they do "catch". But the frame is what you need to worry about.

[h2co-pilot]

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[PARAGON]

Get a tan on those knees.

[h2co-pilot]

Drty, I like those. Do you have any more pics?

[Klaus]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Phil, did you have that in Moab? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Yup.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">If you did, I am thinking about eating a .40 right about now. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>If you are hungry try a .45 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have .45 - Who'll bid .50!

[NoMoGMPG]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
The scary duck stuff is cool but won't work with my lift. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why not? I believe they mount to the frame rails...Is it because of the Fabtech drop member for the torsion bars?

[h2co-pilot]

Tim, I know. It will be fun though. I am taking measurements and figuring out what will work.

I love drty's rock rails, and I was hoping that I could negate the need for a step in extending them.

[h2co-pilot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DRTYFN:
[quote]Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
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**coughcough**attentionwhore**coughcough** </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

gfy

[PARAGON]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by H2Finally:
Hey don't laugh! Para, I had the same idea for a while! But I was thinking of using some heavy-duty pallet jack wheels. I think it's a grand idea to be able to use any wheel to "roll" the truck over any sticking points.

But I would mount it around the rear diff first, which to me is the biggest trouble spot. Any ideas?? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You'll sacrifice ground clearance with most attempts.

You need a "hopper" at the diff. A lever whose resting position is just forward of the diff and about diff wide that would rotate just so slightly and pick the diff up over the obstacle. Kind of a moving skid plate.

Put collars on the axle housings on either side of the diff with an attachment point on each. It works like a swing and would be spring loaded at one of the collars so that it would stay in the "home" position.

How's that for a quick jab at a solution.

[h2co-pilot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by GMPartsGuy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
The scary duck stuff is cool but won't work with my lift. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Why not? I believe they mount to the frame rails...Is it because of the Fabtech drop member for the torsion bars? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The cross member and the torsion bars. But I don't now the dimensions of the Rubber duck but the picture you posted looks like it would not work under here.

[Ernie Italy]

I have the Rubberduck UCP and no problem. I have in mind to weld plain steel on the UCP and help the H2 to slide, but if during the slide the H2 turn on !
And add other weight !!!!

[dochummer]

I like Dirty's rock rails. The also provide enough of a "lip" to help you in the truck. You could always carry a step stool and use that...

[DRTYFN]

The stock rails are great for sliding over things, but side protection is seriously lacking.

[h2co-pilot]

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[timgco]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
The scary duck stuff is cool but won't work with my lift. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think you really only have one option.

CUSTOM!

[h2co-pilot]

You just don't like it because I came up with it.

I am just feeling things out right now. Ken was mentioning extending the plating that I want on the underside, but I'm not fond of it.

We'll see. I also want to extend them on the posterior end to the fender flare.

Right chia -

[H2Finally]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
How's that for a quick jab at a solution. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Para, frankly I'm dissapointed. Where's the diagram? Where's the mass/velocity ratio calculations? Where's the parts numbers needed???

You're slacking off buddy Now go finish the ptototype and call me!

CP, you're aware of the replacement heavy-duty UCP from Rubberduck? It's 2 pieces, front and rear. Also, I belive Neil (H20) made an even better version. None protects the rear diff, though as often as I've slammed it on rocks, it seemed plenty tough.

Para, why must it rotate? I was thinking more like what CP described -- a stationary "ramp" with the pallet wheels in them, to glide-over and pick-up the rear diff over the rock (with a little momemtum).