Tires question after moab carnage???

[Boss Hoss]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
But, from the repiles it seems like 37's w/ FT tie rods will be fine as well, plus I will look cooler and mud better! Hmmmmm

Just get some 20's and call it a day

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Arizona Hummerboy:
I agree with the driver comments.

When I was at the Hummer Driving Academy I ask about breaking the tie rods. I was told that what they are seeing are the one's that are runing the bigger tires and are pushing there trucks hard are the ones breaking there tie rods and other parts on there trucks.

Well, that's common sense. The more you push your truck the more stuff is going to break. If you wheel, stock/modified/completely built, it's not if you will break something, it's when. That's just goes with the territory. That's why we take spare parts and tools with us on the trails

Originally posted by Arizona Hummerboy:
What they told me at the Academy is if your up against something and the wheel won't turn either way, don't force your truck over it, back up and take a new line on it.

I don't understand what you or they were saying here. If you are "off line" and need to correct yourself and can't without forcing the steering, then yeah, I can see how it makes sense. But anytime you stuff one of your tires against a ledge or rock that you are about to climb over, it is going to be difficult to turn the steering wheel and you'll never get anywhere.

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Arizona Hummerboy:
What they told me at the Academy is if your up against something and the wheel won't turn either way, don't force your truck over it, back up and take a new line on it.

That's all well and good, but most tie rods I've seen break are from front wheel spin and sudden traction. You try and avoid doing that obviously, but sometimes the front just breaks away, and by the time you've backed on the gas, boing, boing, snap. Other times you don't have any choice, the only way forward may involve spinning those tires a little. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>hence, my two-foot driving most of the time or BTM, if you will.

[MarineHawk]

Originally posted by PARAGON:
... hence, my two-foot driving most of the time or BTM, if you will.

I was amazed at how much more control I had going up and down rocks using BTM.

[It\'s a Dry Heat]

Thanks Arizona Hummerboy. Good post.

[Boss Hoss]

As i plan on running 37's next, the Moab tire/carnage debate had me concerned for about 3 seconds. What concerned me was not the 37's but the offset of my wheels. After thinking it over,in the 4th second my personal decision leads me to go with 37's, hd tie rods and cognitive driving.

Remember how much ground clearance you lost from airing down? My suspicion is the 37's will allow you to air down without losing the clearance. Youll be fine with the 37's but the next question is at's or mt's. IMO its hard to sacrifice ride quality when the at's perform well in most applications. Can you have the best of both worlds????....TOYO MT! I guess here is where DO NOW is supposed to go.

[MarineHawk]

I like the way mine rides now with the 37" Cooper STTs better than I did with the stock tires both on road and off. I got mine for $238/tire. Here's what they look like:

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by Boss Hoss:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
But, from the repiles it seems like 37's w/ FT tie rods will be fine as well, plus I will look cooler and mud better! Hmmmmm

Just get some 20's and call it a day </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Im going to one-up you Boss and get some 24K gold 24" spokes!!!!

[Alan06SUT]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:
I like the way mine rides now with the 37" Cooper STTs better than I did with the stock tires both on road and off. I got mine for $238/tire. Here's what they look like:

Are those the brand new tread design for this year? I watch some show on TV about them I think. How do they grip on dry rocks? I have heard that BFGAT's do better than most MT's on dry rocks.

[MarineHawk]

It's a fairly new design, but I don't know for sure how new. I think it's about a year or so. To me, it's a pretty good compromise: It's got a little more tread than the MFG MTs and a little less than the ATs. Unlike the ATs, however, it has good sidewall tread going down several inches. Traction was great on wet rocks, dry rocks, mud, loose dirt, etc..

I had them aired down too much. See:


I used someone else's fancy valve deflator thingies, but one of my tires ended up at 14-15 psi. The rest were 17-18 psi. Because the traction was so good, I'll probably go with about 22 psi next time. They do have heavy sidewalls and weigh 84 lbs a piece. At 40 psi, they drive great on the pavement.

[PARAGON]

They look nearly identical to Goodyear's MT/Rs

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by MarineHawk:

[Alan06SUT]

QUOTE]That is a little low, but if you moving slow you'll be fine, although you do increase the potential of popping a bead.
[/quote]....and you loose quite a bit of ground clearance.

Personally, I think our trucks are too heavy to go any less than 20PSI. I did and broke a bead, as well as scraped on many more rocks than when I had inflated them to 30 PSI. I did not notice any lack of grip at 30.

[Alan06SUT]

That is a little low, but if you moving slow you'll be fine, although you do increase the potential of popping a bead.

....and you loose quite a bit of ground clearance.

Personally, I think our trucks are too heavy to go any less than 20PSI. I did and broke a bead, as well as scraped on many more rocks than when I had inflated them to 30 PSI. I did not notice any lack of grip at 30.

[ShaggyX]

Originally posted by Alan06SUT:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">That is a little low, but if you moving slow you'll be fine, although you do increase the potential of popping a bead.

....and you loose quite a bit of ground clearance.

Personally, I think our trucks are too heavy to go any less than 20PSI. I did and broke a bead, as well as scraped on many more rocks than when I had inflated them to 30 PSI. I did not notice any lack of grip at 30. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>wow...deja vu.

[CO Hummer]

Originally posted by Alec W:
I ran everything at 18 this time and didn't really notice any difference so will go back to 25.

On Saturday I found out that I ran the entire week at 30 psi.

Adam was with me when I was filling up my tires. My air hose guage said I was starting the refill from 30 psi. I checked them again with my deflator's gauge and it said 20. I used Adam's gauge to figure out which one was right. Turns out, my hose gauge was right. So that P.O.S. deflator guage screwed up my deflation and I didn't go down as much as I should have.