tow rigs

[wasp1971]

Love the "fat pig" jab at Camaro by the Mustang guy

[kalantar]

How far do you plan on towing , OS this a toy hauler and are there a lot of hills? You can always have dealer hook it up so you can test pull it. You do need a weight distribution hitch and if you plan on going up some steep hillls you might have some issues.

[vandy0090]

lol who meeeeeee?


no not really. to be honest most towing will be local here in the okc area (flat) maybe down to south texas and to GA and back. for the most part i think its all pretty flat. and it will only be pulled by the H for a year or 2 maybe, then ill be more in a position to get the diesel. (well one i want anyway not just one thats in the budget)

[kalantar]

You should be fine, over the limit but fine.

[vandy0090]

oh and not a toy hauler, just a travel trailer.....


what excactly is it that sets the "tow capacity". if the frame can handle it everything else is upgradeable (other than wheel base). why not mod to fit your need?

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by wasp1971

Love the "fat pig" jab at Camaro by the Mustang guy

my fat pig would dust that slow stallion.... ....no lie....

[vandy0090]

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

my fat pig would dust that slow stallion.... ....no lie....

hopefully your on the bottle or FI. poor air force kid thought the same thing. he kept messing with me after work for about a week. i was bored one day and made a 400hp+ car my bitch.

[guruerror]

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

my fat pig would dust that slow stallion.... ....no lie....

BUT what about this one!?

[vandy0090]

Originally Posted by guruerror

BUT what about this one!?

thats gotta be fast because it doesnt have much else going for it

[guruerror]

You know it! If I remember right, the cobra on the hood added like 200 HP. BAD ASS!

AND it's got T tops...show me another car today that rocks the T tops!

[vandy0090]

vynal add hp

[twinmill28]

Hey Vandy, what year's your deuce? That's gonna contribute alot to what you can pull.
If it's 07 and down, that trailer is too much for it and I would not go that route. You have to think liability here--as in lawsuit. God forbid anything ever happens, but if you get in a wreck and are pulling beyond the rated limit, which I guarantee the insurance companies will look at---you're gonna lose your ass even if it's the other guys fault.
A 36 foot long trailer is massively long--you're damn near in the trailer park category, seriously. I know, they get that rating at something like 40 feet, but you're close. Plus, you've got to look at total length being closer to 38 or 39 feet at the front of the trailer with added length of the front V (not usually included in stated length).
Towing it into gas stations or restaraunts will suck balls, and actually towing it anyplace you have to actually make any turns will suck balls.
I'm about 30 feet with my trailer and have found myself in some crappy situations trying to get it in or out of places. This is the longest I'd want to be before I'm looking at a 5th wheel. I actually tried talking my wife into going for a Kodiak rear slide which makes the trailer even lighter and shorter. The rear slide just didn't offer storage or living space that our family of 5 needs.
Don't get me started on Coachmen--their 1 year road hazard is almost useless, I actually had to bully the reps into fixing our trailer under warranty. When the axles bent they automatically start talking about blaming the manufacturer, Liepert, and try to divert us to deal with them for getting it fixed. I believe if you have "Coachmen" emblazened that much on the exterior of the trailer, they should own up to fixing it. We had to leave it in Butte, Montana for over a month when it broke and basically abandon or move everything out of it into the deuce and our car while we waited for it to be fixed. Then Coachmen wouldn't even honor having it delivered the 500 miles back to our house. The only way I could settle with them was to offer to drive to pick it up if they paid my gas bill of $400.
Don't get me wrong, Coachman builds a REALLY nice trailer, quality finishes on the coach, but they bow out when it comes to the frame and below. From what we've heard, all coach manufacturers are bad this way.
Oh, when we called the Coachman hotline and told them they had a dead trailer on the interstate, they offered to drag it to the local Wal Mart late Friday until someone could look at it Monday. How the hell do you live in a trailer with 2 cats, a dog, 3 kids and the wife in an unheated, no plumbing trailer for 3 nights???
Rant over. Good luck buying a trailer and make sure to ask as many questions about warranty coverage--nobody will be able to answer them without blowing smoke up your skirt. The salesmen will try to make you feel good about having a road hazard, but good luck executing it late Friday afternoon when all the shops are closed and wreckers are impossible to find in the middle of nowhere. Even better luck trying to get them to pick up a hotel bill and loss of wages when you're stuck in BFE dealing with the whole mess. Oooh, I sound like a bitter ex wife! Just some things you need to be prepared to handle if you take road trips in the new coach.

[kalantar]

My thoughts exactly on upgrading your ride, and not to sure about the insurance liability issue. I did alot of research on the subject and never found a case where insurance did not cover someone for being over the limit, if someone has found a case please post a link.

BTW, many of the guys who tow to the desert are over their limit. I think it is alot of hype but I dont know much.

[vandy0090]

Thanks for the heads up on the warranty issue. I was actually just talking to a guy that worked for a large RV shop and he was telling me about some things to stay away from. I'm starting to stalk a large RV forum to get info also. I grew up with a travel trailer and started hauling them at 15 on a permit.


What is it that sets a vehicles "tow capacity" I would imagine if your frame isn't over stressed your rear axle weight is good then it comes down to HP/torque and wheel base? Wheel base I can do nothing about..adding HP/torque is ez money .....

I'm just trying to justify keeping the H. U guys aren't helping lol

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by vandy0090

hopefully your on the bottle or FI. poor air force kid thought the same thing. he kept messing with me after work for about a week. i was bored one day and made a 400hp+ car my bitch.

nope..no bottle or forced induction.....you know hp only gets you so far...... thats what the new gt500 is going to find out against the ZL1 this year......

[twinmill28]

You gotta remeber with increased HP comes increased heat.
Heat=bad

[vandy0090]

Originally Posted by 2010_5thgen

nope..no bottle or forced induction.....you know hp only gets you so far...... thats what the new gt500 is going to find out against the ZL1 this year......

Lol ZL1. She already got spanked my the boss LS. I think u GM boys are gonna be butt hurt later on when the 13 shelby makes ur zl1 look like a cobalt ss

[2010_5thgen]

well see.....they need to upgrade that dinosaur suspension and stop putting civic tires on the rear.

[2010_5thgen]

Originally Posted by vandy0090

Lol ZL1. She already got spanked my the boss LS. I think u GM boys are gonna be butt hurt later on when the 13 shelby makes ur zl1 look like a cobalt ss

you know why the boss works so well? ...because its the perfect combination of power ,weight, and suspension......the gt500 is a totally different story. lots of power...thats great and all...but crappy suspension and tires....it wont hook up for $hit and it will make a fool of itsself on any road course running a 245 and 295 in the rear......but its good to see that atleast ford has FINALLY arrived to the game that GM has been winning for decades.

[vandy0090]

Just saying