Speculation time...

[SnakeH2]

Originally Posted by TRUBRIT

Keep up the flow of useful information.

Piss off big nose

[TRUBRIT]

Wow....what a come back! I am impressed! You are trully an 'Expert'.

[Agriv8r]

Originally Posted by TRUBRIT

Wow....what a come back! I am impressed! You are trully an 'Expert'.

look at the top right pic, thats not a HUMMER either....the speculation comment is great, the H3T is not speculation so not real sure what you were getting at.....

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

I think GM'll make the new H2 more H1-like in design.

[RazM]

Originally Posted by SnakeH2

Why couldn't that be the HX in the picture...in the early stages??? Those designers are probably 5 feet tall.

A couple of reasons. The final look of the HX was agreed upon far before a full size sculpt was ever worked on. This has absolutely no features from the HX at all. Another reason would be that if it was an early HX design, I doubt they would avoid discussing it.

[RazM]

Since the height of the 'possible' H2 is in question, this should give you a better idea just how much larger it is than the HX concept.

The guy in this pic is Robert Jablonski, same guy who's on the right in the first pic with the unknown HUMMER. He's almost a head taller than the HX, where as in the first pic the 'unknown' HUMMER is taller than him.

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by Agriv8r

this has been the big deal for a couple of years now, it is the H3T...

Negatory. Look at the blinker on the front fender and air cap on the mystery truck and compare it to the H3T.

Also, the H3T, like the HX, is not that big/tall.

[brad_p]

there is a pic of a colorado on the wall. the h3t is off the colorodo fram and even uses the colorodo bed. My guess is that it was the early h3t concept. The airboxes are the same and so are the hood handles.

[RazM]

Originally Posted by brad_p

there is a pic of a colorado on the wall. the h3t is off the colorodo fram and even uses the colorodo bed. My guess is that it was the early h3t concept. The airboxes are the same and so are the hood handles.

There's so much wrong with what you just said, where do I start?

The studio houses more than just one HUMMER, and possibly houses more than just HUMMER's. The H3 sits on a unique frame which was based off the colorado. It's heavily modified and reinforced, it's NOT the same frame. The H3T is based off the H3 frame but of course is lengthened. The bed is not a colorado bed, it's a completely new bed unique to the H3T.

Now about the unknown HUMMER, the airboxes are not the same as the H3T concept, and neither are the hood handles.

This is not the H3T concept.

[Agriv8r]

Originally Posted by Sewie

Negatory. Look at the blinker on the front fender and air cap on the mystery truck and compare it to the H3T.

Also, the H3T, like the HX, is not that big/tall.

was not trying to say it was an H3T, was correct the H4T comment...

[brad_p]

Originally Posted by RazM

There's so much wrong with what you just said, where do I start?

The studio houses more than just one HUMMER, and possibly houses more than just HUMMER's. The H3 sits on a unique frame which was based off the colorado. It's heavily modified and reinforced, it's NOT the same frame. The H3T is based off the H3 frame but of course is lengthened. The bed is not a colorado bed, it's a completely new bed unique to the H3T.

Now about the unknown HUMMER, the airboxes are not the same as the H3T concept, and neither are the hood handles.

This is not the H3T concept.

Its to large of a change to be an h2. Hummer is not know for drastic changes on body styles. Hell the h1 hasnt changed since it was released and the h2 has been looking the same all 5 years its been out except for the minor mirror change and the 08 grill lettering relocation. Also if you take a look in trucktrend where they are testing out the h3t's it says. " GMT745 the new 4 door pickup is based on the existing h3, with the chassis lengthened 23 inches to accommodate a 5 foot colorado/canyon bed and full sized rear doors. How correct that is i dont know maybe try and picture the h3t bed without the extensions on the side.

[RazM]

Originally Posted by brad_p

Its to large of a change to be an h2. Hummer is not know for drastic changes on body styles. Hell the h1 hasnt changed since it was released and the h2 has been looking the same all 5 years its been out except for the minor mirror change and the 08 grill lettering relocation. Also if you take a look in trucktrend where they are testing out the h3t's it says. " GMT745 the new 4 door pickup is based on the existing h3, with the chassis lengthened 23 inches to accommodate a 5 foot colorado/canyon bed and full sized rear doors. How correct that is i dont know maybe try and picture the h3t bed without the extensions on the side.

Nothing is too drastic, the H2 sales are dropping, people want a change, a big change. This isn't the H1, which sold 12,000 units in its entire run. The H2 needs to be refreshed, and as has already been acknowledged by some people in the know, the H2 will get re-styled around 2009/2010.

Now about the H3T, that is not a colorado bed, not even remotely close. The bed is unique to the H3T.
Some magazine editors still say the H2 is built directly off the Tahoe frame, so that tells you enough about how reliable their info is.

[brad_p]

well why would they use the old h2 for the h2t which isnt supose to come out for a few years. Also i thought the h2 was off a tahoe frame. You already said the h3 was a modified colorado frame which means it is a colorado frame modified or not it started as a colorado frame and they added a few things. I hope they dont ruin the brand anymore than they already have by making the new models futuristic looking. They have already downsized the brand, the h3 still holds the classic hummer look though. But as for the hx it just isnt Hummer.

[RazM]

Originally Posted by brad_p

well why would they use the old h2 for the h2t which isnt supose to come out for a few years. Also i thought the h2 was off a tahoe frame. You already said the h3 was a modified colorado frame which means it is a colorado frame modified or not it started as a colorado frame and they added a few things. I hope they dont ruin the brand anymore than they already have by making the new models futuristic looking. They have already downsized the brand, the h3 still holds the classic hummer look though. But as for the hx it just isnt Hummer.

Search is your friend...

Regarding the H2 : "The final frame assembly is made up of 3 sections. The front uses a modified GM 2500-Series utility frame. The mid-section is all new and is completely boxed. The rear section uses a modifed GM 1500-Series frame which is upgraded for 8000 pound gross vehicle weight."

Regarding the H3: The H3 frames starts off as an H3 frame. Some components are shared, but pretty much every component is modified or in some cases completely different. Fully boxed, added crossmembers, modified components = new frame.




The H2T we've seen tested could be a mule for the new driveline, doesn't mean the body will stay the same.

And your opinions on the HX make no sense. Offroad spec wise, it's the most capable HUMMER since the H1. 56 degree approach angle, 51 degree departure, 25 degree breakover, and 13 inches MINIMUM ground clearance, sounds like a HUMMER to me...

[Sewie]

Originally Posted by brad_p

Also if you take a look in trucktrend where they are testing out the h3t's it says. " GMT745 the new 4 door pickup is based on the existing h3, with the chassis lengthened 23 inches to accommodate a 5 foot colorado/canyon bed and full sized rear doors. How correct that is i dont know

They were most likely referring to the test mules, which did have C/C beds on them. Or they were just plain wrong like when they mentioned switching into 2H.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by brad_p

Also i thought the h2 was off a tahoe frame.

Do you need some bannination?

[3Hummer]

also just to point out those arent the tires they put on the HX it looks like the 35inch BFG that are on h2

[DR EVIL]

Originally Posted by RazM

Search is your friend...



And your opinions on the HX make no sense. Offroad spec wise, it's the most capable HUMMER since the H1. 56 degree approach angle, 51 degree departure, 25 degree breakover, and 13 inches MINIMUM ground clearance, sounds like a HUMMER to me...

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

Do you need some bannination?

Quit attacking Brad! If Angie sees this she will go Lara Croft on your ass, pirate captain. How would you like to find a Somalian land mine on your car seat tomorrow morning?

[RazM]

Originally Posted by DR EVIL

Quit attacking Brad! If Angie sees this she will go Lara Croft on your ass, pirate captain. How would you like to find a Somalian land mine on your car seat tomorrow morning?

Then maybe he should LISTEN and stop repeating the same stuff over and over again...

Ok then

[brad_p]

sorry i guess ive been misguided a bit in the past.