CBS-news interview with an H2-owner

I'm a bicyclist, too. Why would words from a bicyclist have any more or less weight?

What is it I haven't thought deeply about, exactly? Just because someone hasn't come to the same conclusion as you doesn't mean they haven't thought about things as deeply.

And FYI, it's /religion/ that causes terrorism, not oil. Heh, now I have no friends left.

[Beck]

There is plenty of oil today and there will be plenty of oil tomorrow. Long before human use up the oil on this planet, new technologies will come along to move the humankind to the next level of energy use, which is happening as we speak. America holds the world’s largest oil reserve underground, wisely we do not plan on using most of them, with or without Alaska’s oil, not until we use other people’s oil first. While we use others’ oil, we made sure we control every process of the oil from the discovery, drilling, transportation, refinery, marketing to final distribution, the money they get for the oil will be the money we print, which they will use to buy the products we make or products we sell and invest in our companies. Consequently, millions of jobs are created and billions upon billions are made, not by greedy oil companies, but by tens of millions of investors, workers, families, governments, non-profit environmental and humanitarian groups worldwide, not just in America. The cycles of money generated by every drop of oil goes on to feed not just our American way of life, but also the hunger of the world. We shall make no apology for our absolute control of the oil by ways of finance, industry, diplomacy or military power, because it is our responsibility to our nation, our heritage, our family, our children and to the world, as we bear the burden as the world leader in every aspect of the modern human society. Regional wars, terrorists’ acts or environmentalists’ outcry, past, present or future are but bumps along the way to our total domination of oil. That there be no misunderstanding that we shall use all powers available to maintain out total control of the oil. The strongest will survive, and we shall remain steadfast to be the strongest ones in this world. I myself am proud of the above mentioned facts and will not apologize for the confident thoughts and responsible actions of my country, which is the greatest country in human history.

[MAC]

Wow, you maybe right, but let's not talk politics and let's not talk religion, let's just stay with Hummer. When telemarketers call, the worst thing you can do is to engage in a debate with them, they love that and they got you hooked. Let's ignore them.

Steve, my wife heard a CBS radio news spot about Hummer and gas etc.. I think that was you in the radio news, even though I did not hear it. Reporters adapt their print or TV reports to radio "spots", generally 30 seconds "spots", which the network distributes to affliated stations worldwide. Each station select what they want to use, reporters get a final count monthly from the network, they get paid for every use of the "spot". The more interesting the story, more stations use it and thus more payment for the reporter.

You are famous. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

[kelleymac2000]

I don't think that the fact that it came from a bicyclist was a negative, but provided counterpoint to the argument. Choosing not to drive at all, rather than an SUV. Just my 2-cents.
Kelley

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I'm a bicyclist, too. Why would words from a bicyclist have any more or less weight?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

[TS]

Mac,
You da man, let's leave politics and religion out of this forum. I am sure everyone here has an opinion on both subjects.. and there are forums out there for people to tear each other apart. Coming back to the CBS spot, I havent seen it yet and would love to see it, is the clip out on the web somewhere?

[Zing]

Mac, how come every time I read a political or religious debate you're right there in the middle of it. Everyone's all riled up now. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Agreed, there are other more intriguing forums to debate this stuff.

[MAC]

I am trying to break up a fight, Zazing, don‘t you get in there to throw #%@& at the fan. I belong to some fraternities and country club, the basic rule is NO TALK OF POLITICS & RELIGION, strickly enforced. Both subjects can turn best friends and families into deadly enemies.

[Zing]

Mac, I'm only breaking chops. I applaud you for stepping in.

[MAC]

No problem, actually a little confrontation can be fun, but politics and religion can get out of control real fast.
I am on page 4 of this Maritz Hummer survey. It has 74 boxes for me to check why I selected my new vehicle. I think workers in China get paid more than me($1). Just finished page 3, why I did not buy my 2nd choice (Cadi Escalade), my only reason was not listed, I filled in writing: "SAW HUMMER." [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

I appreciate that you're willing to read my post and make comments.

TS, you're right, I shouldn't have assumed shallowness, we all have personal preferences and we do supposedly live in a free country which I respect, but if we take advantage of our rights, we will start to lose them. I try not to have habits that are in any way damaging to society or the society of the future, sometimes we can't help it, but sometimes we know we could be doing better. Don't you think if everyone cut back just a little bit on their luxuries and indulgences, the rest of the world could eat or sleep or get jobs or be healthier? Does any see this indirect correlation? Just looking at the Hummer radiates excess size, unnecessary security, and uneeded extra gas use. Sure it's your right to have one, but aren't there other healthier ways to satisfy this temporary desire you have of wanting a vehicle that barely fits on most roads? Our culture is all about excess and that's why there's inequality, when things like the hummer becomes popular, this excess becomes so transparent that of course you are going to have people bitching at you.

Steve, I guess I would probably fit into your category of 'green people.' I can only assume what this term means to you, but to me it means giving a **** about the natural resources that we rely on for pretty much most things in our lives. It's that simple. Whatever turns you off about environmentalists shouldn't make you stop caring. It just takes a littel bit of your time to really look at what we consume, where it comes from, how we get it, and where it goes. Soon you too might realize that the strain each person puts on resources eventually contributes to a colapse, a breakdown, or even a war. I don't know if someone would spike your tank, but that's not how I have grown to work out difference. Instead I believe in rational civilized open-ended non-violent dialogue.

[SONA]

I say screw them... and the camel they road in on. No one is fooled, this is all about oil, and all the other crap is an excuse. I'll be the first one to back over any terrorist with my Hummer. I was "Green" once too and have not lost my roots. But my Hummer is not the problem with or the cause of the worlds evil, or the oil gluttony, or the green partys ambitions, or causing gun violence in america (I love my GUNS!). People are the problem. So lets get some free gas from Uncle Sam and go help hunt terrorists! Look at any large industry in the US and see how much they depend on oil, gas, propane, water.... IT AINT the little guy.

To Sona, who ever you are, I once heard an interview with Timothy McVeigh's accomplice and it scares me to make this correlation, but you have the same 'screw them' (whoever 'them' is because many of them happen to be fellow Americans?) attitude. As well as the same view of Uncle Sam, although nothing is free while i believe our taxes pay for such a convenience as how little we pay for gas.

But the scariest coincidence is the same love of guns. You say that people are the problem...to me, this is the problem. This attitude largely based on emotion rather than ration is the problem. Pretty much all of our taxes go to defense and now homeland, in essence guns and deadbolts on our doors. Is this the kind of world we want to live in because this is certainly the direction we are headed????

Don't you see that all those large industries you speak of that depend on oil are ever more supported now by you, the hummer user?

[Hum2]

Hey Steve R....has anyone digitized your interview and posted it anywhere?

Ric

[Hum2]

What's this rookie stuff....I've had my H2 now for over 2 weeks and have studied the H2 from concept thru production.

Ric

[Texas Red]

Hehehe!

Ric, you're classified as a Rookie to this Forum until you make 5 or 6 posts (I think). Those of us from H2ML know you're no "rookie". [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

Jim
Red H2 in Texas

[m998]

Sooo, were gas suckin terrorists, eh?
Next time you hear that just ask “Can you say HMMWV (Humvee)?!
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[SJ]

khp:

Every one has an agenda in life and I respect freedom of choice.

To environmentalists, the H2 is a GAS GUZZLER that depletes natural resources at accelerated rates.

I'll never buy a Japanese car for PERSONAL reasons, but I don't expect you or any one else to conform to my agenda and beliefs.

To a family guy, driving a large car provides the capacity and safety that a smaller car like a Chevy Cavalier or Ford Focus cannot provide.

You have your agenda and I have mine.

[ratesguy]

Is everyone aware that over 30 SUV,s in the Richmond area have been vandalized by eco-terrorists over the past month? Acid thrown on them, hatchet chopped and generally destroyed. Better get that locking gas cap quick

[Steve R]

You know what I do for a living? I'm an insulation contractor. We specialize in going to homes that are already built and insulating their empty walls and adding more material to their attics. While my efforts certainly serve to provide me with a living, I will point out that in doing so I have helped thousands of people conserve HUGE amounts of electricity and natural gas. I am ALL ABOUT energy conservation!

My insulation has probably resulted in millions of less cubic feet of natural gas being combusted for heating and a huge reduction in uranium and fossil fuels from burned in order to run generators to make electricity for air conditioning. I've done more for the environment, the economy and our planet then ANY of those fake-ticket-posting vegans!

The way I see it is this: Not many people can go through their entire life without having accidently stepping on an ant....so when Jesus stepped on an ant, did that make him a murderer? NO. By similar token, just because I occassionally drive a vehicle that gets less then optimal gas mileage, does that mean I, a person who has saved so much energy for so many, is an energy glutton?

I have saved enough energy to pay the price for ALL our energy-sins. Behold: I am your energy savior. Yaay though I drive through the valley of rough terrain, I shall fear no obstacle...for I take comfort in the refinements of my H2 and know that it will carry me forth through whatever lay waiting ahead. You too can follow in my tire-prints....but only if your faith is strong enough!

Oh my...I've a twisted little mind [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]