First 4-Wheel Drive

[Bayou H2]

84 CJ-7
96 Range Rover
00 F-150
03 H2

'03 White H2 Lux Package

[Hummie2]

1958 Chevy 1/2 ton 4X4
1946 CJ2A Jeep
1965 J10 Jeep Pick-up
1948 CJ2A W/ Ford Flathead V8
1957 GMC 3/4 ton 4X4
1956 M38A1 Jeep
1954 M38A1 Jeep W/ 289 Ford V8 & 4 speed, Detroit Locker Rear & Powr-Loc Front posis
1957 Jeep Wagon W/ 289 Ford
2 other M38A1 Jeeps- 1 with 350 Chevy, Detroit Locker& Powr-locked Dana 44s front&rear
2 off-road race rigs that I built tube frames for W/ fiberglass bodies.
1973 Chevy K1500 4X4
1980 Bronco
1984 F250 Ford 4X4
1988 Chevy K3500 4X4 EXT Cab 454 & Detroit Locker
1989 Chevy K1500 4X4
1992 Chevy K2500 4X4
1976 K1500 Chevy 4X4
1993 Chevy K1500 Z71
The H2 is the 21st 4wheel drive I have had in the last 35+ years and I am still undecided on the SFA vs IFS issue.

Don

[This message was edited by Hummie2 on February 16, 2003 at 11:08 PM.]

[Hummie2]

Mike...

Both the the 57 and 58 were Napco conversions. The 58 was really a sweet truck. Short bed, straight 6 and 4 speed. Of all the trucks it was my favorite, wish i still had it. The 57 was a long bed with a winch off a duce&half. My dad bought the 73 new and i bought it from his estate when he died. I put a 4" lift, mudders, Hickey fender flares and Warn winch on it while I had it. Still got the winch under my work bench, its going to find a home on the H2.

Don

[cmb31078]

H2 is my first 4wd and I am loving every minute of it.

Craig

04 Pewter H2- Lux,nav, air suspension

[JMoore]

1988 Jeep Wrangler
1994 Ford Exploder
1996 Ford Exploder
1998 Isuzu Rodeo
1988 Range Rover
1999 Land Rover Discovery

-John

Beer is the reason we know God loves us.

[JJ]

I only have 4000 miles on it. I did take it elk hunting this year and it did well on the muddy roads and handled the bull elk my son harvested just fine. With the H2 in the stable I don't think I'll do much serious off-roading with the ZR2.

JJ

[Dan]

81 Jeep Renegade
97 Cherokee Country

and about 10 cars in between...

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SUT on order 12/02. 10 months down, 8 to go!
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[DURAMAX TIM]

Usually I trade them in or sell when I have to add windshield washer fluid
Seriously, I work for GM and get good discounts so I can get about what I paid back on my trade.
I was keeping same loan and swapping titles but w/ low rates I refinanced the last two to lock in low rate and these are the vehicles I plan on keeping unless the dealers go ahead and make another great offer.
About all the vehicles I have traded have been sold before they make it back to lot.
The dealers make $2-3000 on my trade and about this much on my new sale so they really like it.
The last GMC MSRP was $47,500 w/ discount and rebates I paid $36,000 and will get $35-36,000 on trade.
I don't owe much on the truck or the H2, my plan was to have both vehicles paid for still have brand new vehicles so I keep trading.
I can't hardly wait for a D'max/Allison H2.
20+ MPG and tow anything in site.
I also own an excavating business and farm too.
We have had so many new vehicles it's hard to remember them all

[MUH_HUM]

My list is way short

78 FJ60 Toyota Land Crusher (coolest)
00 Toyota Tundra (most reliable)
05 Hummer (best looking)
05 Subaru Baja Turbo (Fasted little POS I've ever driven)

Still regret selling the Land Cruiser. Damn it was a cool beast....Still have the Tundra. Damned good Truck. Gotta love those rice burners, made in Indiana.

Oh, and my dad used to race old CJ5's in the Nevada desert back when it was totally low key and not the mega bucks sport it is today.

[JJ]

just bought another 4WD
'03 Chevy S10 ZR2

[Big Z]

Here is the write up.

The sophisticated four-wheel-drive system and transfer case are versatile and driver-selectable. The integrated Borg-Warner two-speed electrically controlled full-time 4WD system is capable of further reducing the vehicle's gear ratios by 2.64:1 when necessary, for highly controlled obstacle climbing. It provides a 40/60 percent front-to-rear torque split in "High Open" mode or when the differentials are unlocked and a 50/50 percent front-to-rear power split when the transfer case differential is locked. A specially designed low-range throttle progression allows the driver to precisely control engine speed (and as a result, the vehicle) during very rough terrain driving, and is automatically engaged when the transfer case is in "4 LO."

The transfer case controls provide five mode selections, four of which can be accessed by dash-mounted button selectors. The fifth mode, neutral, is available by simultaneously pressing two of the button selectors. Selections include:

1) A high-range open or "4 HI Open" for normal, everyday driving on dry road surfaces at any speeds.

2) A high-range lock or "4 HI Locked" for semi-slippery surfaces like snow, light sand or wet areas, such as those around a boat launch; this selection locks the front and rear output shafts together, so their wheels rotate at exactly the same speed.

3) A low-range lock or "4 LO Locked" for severe off-pavement use, such as crawling over large rocks or logs. In addition to locking the two propshafts together, it provides a 2.64:1 gear reduction in the planetary gearset. By lowering the ratios of each of the gears, it adds the equivalent of another, extremely deep-ratio first gear and provides a great deal more torque for slow-speed climbing. Low Lock also activates a new, more measured throttle progression curve, which greatly enhances off-road driving comfort and control. High and Low Lock also allow a driver to select a different set of calibrations for the traction control system, using a separate "TC2" button. This provides additional wheel slip for select operating conditions and road surfaces, such as paddling through deep sand.

4) An Eaton electronic rear differential lock or "4 LO Locked + Rear Diff Locked," available only when the transfer case is in Low Lock position. It permits locking up the rear differential for optimum slow-speed capability in climbing over large rocks or up long, steep grades. It locks the two rear axle shafts together so they rotate at exactly the same speed-and does so electronically. (Since this mode can only be accessed when the transfer case is in Low Lock, the front and rear propshafts are already locked.)

5) "Neutral," obtained by simultaneously pressing the "4 LO Locked" and "4 HI Open" buttons and holding them down for 10 seconds. It permits flat-towing the H2 behind another vehicle

[OLE YLLR]

1981 CHEVY K10 4X4
1995 FORD F150 EDDIE BAUER 4X4
1997 FORD F150 XLT 4X4
1997 FORD EXPEDITION XLT 4x4
1998 FORD EXPEDITION XLT 4x4
2001 FORD F150 XLT 4x4
MY FAVORITE 2003 HUMMER H2 W/ADVENTURE PKG!!!

[mabrodis]

'72 Toyota FJ40 Land Cruiser
'81 Toyota FJ40 Land Cruiser (still have)
'00 Toyota Tacoma TRD
'95 Toyota Land Cruiser
'97 Lexus LX450 (Land Cruiser)

'97 Lexus LX450, factory lockers front, center and rear, 35" MTRs, rock sliders...

[ktower_heels]

98 Ford Exploder (really did blow up at high speed)
01 Tahoe

[Daft_Punk]

Just my 2 cents. You can not classify the H2 as 4 wheel drive. It is all wheel drive there is a difference.

4 wheel drive is a vehicle powered by two wheels that manually goes to 4 wheel drive through some intervention

All wheel drive is a vehicle that is permanently powered by four wheels.

[Cranky Steve]

82 Toyota P/U 22r
70 Toyota FJ40 F series inline 6
86 Toyota P/U 22re
88 Toyota P/U 3vze (Still own, very stock, daily driver)
85 Toyota P/U 22re (Still own, heavily modofied for the rocky trails in Nor cal & dump runs)

I like older trucks, no worries about body damage. I would like to get a Duramax or Dodge Cummins to replace the 88 with as a daily driver.

Founding Member of RCRC 4wd Club Scaramento, CA www.rcrc4x4.com
Pirate4x4.com Vendor & Toyota Truck and 4Runner Talk Forum Moderator

[MAC]

What other vehicles have FULL TIME 4WD?

Full Time 4WD requires:
A transfer case
A center differential
Two drive shafts
Two axle differentials
Two powered axles

[SJ]

PhilD:

I agree with you 100%. I don't consider the H2 an AWD vehicle, but Steve R did site the owner's manual (in a previous post) where GM refers to the "AWD system" of the H2, thus I'm baffled by the whole use of terminology these days.

For me, the Jaguar X-type, Audi Quattro, and Honda Pilot are examples of AWD. I suppose the H2 is considered both AWD and 4WD in the greater scope, but I simply don't consider it AWD in the traditional sense of splitting camps. The ability to manipulate the Transfer Case [Electronic 2-speed unit] is what makes the difference from where I'm sitting.

The fact that all four wheels are engaged does make for AWD, so again the thought of BOTH AWD and 4WD is plausible, but I still lean towards the label of Full-Time 4WD given that the TC can be manipulated.

[Adam in CO]

1987 Ford Bronco II - Stock
1974 Jeep CJ5 - 2" lift, 33" tires, full roll cage, high back seats w/ 4 pt restraints.
1969 Ford Bronco Sport - 2" lift, 35" tires, full cage, soft top, 302 Boss engine
1992 Chevy Blazer Sport - 32" tires
2002 Chevy Tahoe Z71 - Stock
2003 Hummer H2 - Stock

"There's nothing stock about a stock car."

CO H2 Club Rocks!
aps101374@yahoo.com

[muddyrover]

1998 Land Rover Discovery