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Old 10-20-2003, 11:38 PM
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Sorry to poo-poo on this winch mount, but I didn't think it was built correctly so I asked some engineer friends to look at it. Here's what they said:

"Patton and I just had a howl over the Rogue bracketry. We were
surprised the thing held the hook up. The compounding leverage factor on
the arm comming from the receiver would bend with a 3000 # winch even if he
used 3/4 inch bar stock, not to mention the inside knee stresses on the best
of welds. I hope his liability insurance is huge! The sad part is there
were respondees that thought it had some merit. This proves you can sell
**** in a bag to the right person."
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Old 10-21-2003, 06:11 PM
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yea it looks cool...
but isn't that why the mount is removable? so you can put it on when you need it and take it off when you don't so you don't lose any clearance?

I don't see why you would need a modified (I would say DANGEROUS) mount. I wouldn't use that to pull a ZUK out of the mud. I can't believe that that modified mount had zero deflection with a load unless you have it braced and tied into the bumper or frame somehow.

jmo - I have only see these pics, and I don't know how you built it or what the materials are...I would like to see up close lateral pics with it under a heavy load (like pulling the H2 up a trail).

have to agree with the others on the rope - it does not help dissipate heat of the winch...cable acts like a big heatsink to help keep the temp down on long pulls, but on short pulls the rope is great - also great on hydraulic winches where the heat is less of an issue. Seen plenty of guys use it - prefer to stick with cable until warn endorses a rope for my winch...

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the heat issue with "rope" and winches is when you use the winch as a brake to lower a vehicle down something. the internal brake heats up and some "rope" cables have been damaged due to it. Warn does not recommend "rope" for my 15k winch, yet, as long as you know what to avoid, no problem.

looks like a very cool mount. does it somehow attach to your frame??

9k winch for a Hummer seems low; especially a Warn as the stall rate is lower than 9k. if you load it up and are stuck on a hill in mud even a double pull might not get you out. always read a general rule of thumb was 1.5 times your loaded vehicle vehicle.

still, if it fits what you're doing, its a nice design. don't forget to get the Warn winch accessory kit with the tree strap, etc. in it if you haven't already. there's also a good video on Bill Burke's 4wd America site called Unstuck!

"Bill Burke demonstrates three major recovery forms (winch, Hi-Lift Jack, and recovery straps) in detail using diverse stuck situations on actual Colorado trails with spectacular mountain scenery as a backdrop. Safety is stressed throughout. This tape is a must for every person who travels where a stuck situation is possible."

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I can just see that thing snap the first time he is stuck. looks very dangerous to everybody nearby. If you are really worried about approach angle, you can always take the winch off and put it inside the truck. Or, if departure angle isn't as critical, you could put it on the rear.

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****! I feel like a horses ass. I actually drooled at the ideal of buying one!

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Rogue,
Sorry, but the engineers made it abundantly clear to me that that bracket is not sound. When we were discussing it they made sure that I wasn't considering buying one. I was insulted that they'd even imagine that I'd buy one.
I also have a friend that worked for Warn for 15 years and he said he's seen brackets like that before(better ones) and he said they are not structurally sound enough to sell to the public.

It does look good, though.
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hmm, interesting. I think one thang that really hinders the H2, the way the hood opens. Now, if you were to be able to build a bumper, and sink the winch down and back, closer to the frame rails that would be the hot ticket. I have done quite some experimentaion with this on the toys with good results. But its not an easy task...

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God Damn it, why do I find this **** AFTER I spend the money. I keep looking at mine thinking it's going to get smashed at some point on the trail due to the decreased approach. Of course the question is can it handle the load?
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wow, thats MAMOTH!!!

Looks cool, but I will keep my opinions to myself(I aint saying it doesn't look good though)

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