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10-22-2005, 08:16 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tomp:
-I have had a cradle winch on my last three vehicles. I have never needed it on the front and never wanted to pull myself deeper into what is obviously bad terrain.
-A cradle winch does not effect approach angle because it can be removed from both the front and read, so it's not an issue.
-Cradle winches don't require a new bumper and you have less difficulty figuring out how to keep your winch at the time of sale of the vehicle, no stock bumper to sore in garage etc..
-Permanently mounting winch in the front requires new an alignment of front wheel and permanently makes ride stiffer, where you can take off the cradle winch when not in use ,or ride with cradle winch on rear if if there's no tire carrier back there).
That being said, there are advantages to both styles and disadvantages to both as well. The cradle winch is the best option for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Everything you have said is total BULLSH1T.
Shut your fawking festering piehole before I monkeystomp you with my walker and shove one of my 5 lb testicles in your mouth.
Commie bastard.
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10-22-2005, 07:26 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tomp:
-A cradle winch does not effect approach angle because it can be removed from both the front and read, so it's not an issue.
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Thats not really practical on a 20 mile trial where you would have to remove it many times is it?
One more thing to concider is your back. Anyone with a lower back problem (like me) would not want to move it often. With a winch bumper it on and done with.
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10-22-2005, 11:04 PM
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I would go with the DRTY bumper. The multi-mount is a novel idea but it just not practical if you use your truck much compared to a hidden bumper style. Personally, I have the Warn winch/bumper combo because I couldn't wait any longer for DRTY to come out with his. There is no question that, if I had to do it again, I would go with the Warn or Drty bumper system again.
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10-23-2005, 02:15 PM
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Did that mess up the Warn smashing the fairlead into the rock?
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10-22-2005, 05:21 PM
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I have the Warn 9.5 TI in a Cradle Mount and I love it. I like the security to be able to winch from the front or rear it I need to do so.
I removed my Third seat, and I store the winch there, I just used tie downs to keep it secure and in place.
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10-22-2005, 10:03 PM
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That's about the skinny of it other than power, both solutions will work with a 9000 or 12000.
I have a question, where is the "dangerous and remote terrain you wheel in" because I really want to go there. PM me if you don't want to post that in public.[/quote]
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I didn't realize the "DRTY Winch" could be had in other than a 9 or 9.5. Cool. As far as my terrain goes, I envy you guys - all that cool wheeling and a hot meal and a warm hotel bed at night! LOL When I start out, it takes DAYS to get across - and I have become pretty good at sleeping in the back of my rig. Of course, a good movie on the dvd player really helps.....
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
Heyyy.... that was not my intention there. I was just going through the moab thread to get links to pictures of each winch. Rox, I don't remember it grinding much there on the crack. The picture makes it look like the fairlead is digging into the rock much worse than it really was. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Heyyy.... that was not my intention there. I was just going through the moab thread to get links to pictures of each winch. Rox, I don't remember it grinding much there on the crack. The picture makes it look like the fairlead is digging into the rock much worse than it really was.
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10-22-2005, 05:11 PM
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Here are some more things to consider:
-I have had a cradle winch on my last three vehicles. I have never needed it on the front and never wanted to pull myself deeper into what is obviously bad terrain.
-A cradle winch does not effect approach angle because it can be removed from both the front and read, so it's not an issue.
-Cradle winches don't require a new bumper and you have less difficulty figuring out how to keep your winch at the time of sale of the vehicle, no stock bumper to sore in garage etc..
-Permanently mounting winch in the front requires new an alignment of front wheel and permanently makes ride stiffer, where you can take off the cradle winch when not in use ,or ride with cradle winch on rear if if there's no tire carrier back there).
That being said, there are advantages to both styles and disadvantages to both as well. The cradle winch is the best option for me.
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10-22-2005, 02:33 PM
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IMO, when you buy a winch you regularly use it for someone else. I have the front/rear setup and it works fine. I haven't used it in the rear reciever yet. I can also take it off and put it away when I'm not using it. Having one mounted in the bumper increases your front clearance, if it's ever a huge issue, and it also houses a larger winch making the pulling power better.
Good Luck!
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10-22-2005, 07:52 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tomp:
-Permanently mounting winch in the front requires new an alignment of front wheel and permanently makes ride stiffer, where you can take off the cradle winch when not in use ,or ride with cradle winch on rear if if there's no tire carrier back there).
That being said, there are advantages to both styles and disadvantages to both as well. The cradle winch is the best option for me. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Now we know not to listen to your technical advice.
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10-22-2005, 10:14 PM
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That's correct Bond. 
It is also equipped with a rocket launcher.
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10-23-2005, 01:42 PM
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I have an M12000 I will sell. If you are interested, I have had it about 6 months and never used it. When I got it was pretty rough, so I stripped it, had it all powder coated and replaced all the gaskets and seals. I also put a new solenoid pack on it with new remote, etc. Works fine, needs a cable. $1000 shipped, if you want to pick it up, I will work something out with the buyer.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
That's correct Bond.
It is also equipped with a rocket launcher. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ejector seat too?
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10-23-2005, 11:10 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by DennisAJC:
That's correct Bond.
It is also equipped with a rocket launcher. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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