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i will be the first to admit that i am racist or whatever, i don't like blacks, but i know with obama this country will be in better hands than mcCain. with obama as president it brings hope to people. it sends a message that america is not corrupt as it seems.
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I'll be happy to drive you to the border if you want to renounce your citzenship, if you are a citizen !!!
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born and raised here, just cause i think for myself doesn't makes me less american
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The President surrounds himself with his "cabinet", forming the executive branch of our government. If Obama chooses his cabinet as carefully as he chose Biden as his VP, and they work well together, he will be able to handle any situation.
If McCain would have won, and some tradegy took his life, what would Palin do? More than likely "fly to the bright light"! The Republican party would have themselves another "puppet" and we'd have 4 more years of corporate corruption and war.
So your saying that the problems our country faces today are due to those whom were in power 12 years ago? Get a Grip! Don't you mean 9 to 16 years ago? Of course you do, that would make everything the Democrates fault.
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is this pick on the old guy week ... don't you kids know how to read ?
I said, and please go back and RE-READ the post...the problems lie in what took place over the past 12 years...that means the past 8 years of President Bush and the last 4 years of President Clinton...!
DAMN - whats with you kids...didn't they teach reading in your schools???????
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[quote=D-MAX]i will be the first to admit that i am racist can you please explain more about this statement or whatever, i don't like blacks, but i know with obama this country will be in better hands than mcCain. with obama as president it brings hope to people.hope, change, change because change is good it sends a message that america is not corrupt Ayers, Wright, Flager, Rezko
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Hey Rox.
I don't like Obama, nor do I like McCain. I do however like them both more then I like Bush, and believe either one of them would do better then Bush. The war in Iraq, and the bailout are my two main reasons for hating Bush. I believe both are terrible for the economy, and just plain stupid...and IIRC..both of those ideas came from Bush, and not Congress. Sure Congress had to OK them, but they still started with Bush.
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Wrong, Bush floated the idea, Congress wrote the law (twice while adding pork to it), Bush signed it.
I agree, the bailout was wrong. Banks are using the money to buy other banks and horde the rest.
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The President surrounds himself with his "cabinet", forming the executive branch of our government. If Obama chooses his cabinet as carefully as he chose Biden as his VP, and they work well together, he will be able to handle any situation.
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You've got thing all mixed up there.
You can substitute McCain and Palin and get the same answer.
Plus, Palin was the only experienced executive of the lot.
I have to ask again because no one will answer:
Exactly what change/changes are you going to be happy about? What promised change did it for you?
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i will be the first to admit that i am racist or whatever, i don't like blacks, but i know with obama this country will be in better hands than mcCain.
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Why? I really want to know, but no one will say. I'm beginning to think it's all a secret.
Two thumbs up for the honesty in the rest of the post.
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it sends a message that america is not corrupt as it seems.
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Ummm, not quite. Ever heard of ACORN? Voter Fraud? Black Panther voter intimidation? Palin in effigy? Calls for Joe the Plumber's death? Concerns of rioting if Obama didn't win?
Very embarrassing.
You should have stopped before typing that, because the other stuff was good.
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Only if you consider Biden and Palin equals, as far as experience and job qualifications, is it the same situation.
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I voted for McCain but I'm hoping for the best with Obama. I liked things about both men so I wish him well. What I don't get are the people crying over his election like he's their savior. That confuses me. Then again, I don't get why people of this day and age are still racist. Who cares what color he is? I didn't vote for him due to my opinion that McCain had more experience and was a war hero that served his country and almost died for it. I didn't agree with everything he believed in but nor did I agree with a lot of Obama's policies. We'll all have to wait and see how things turn out. I just don't understand why people think it's okay to say that they don't like black people or people of other cultures, religions or races. It's stupid and but for the grace of God you could have been born black, asian or indian. Seriously, if more people loved each other equally then things would be so much better.
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I love this stuff. I am also as interested as Ken in what change is expected. We have a handful on this thread that should be happy to reply, yet they sit and drink their Kool-Aid...
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DON'T YOU KNOW !!!
Change is good and good is good so change is not only good but its change...
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if we can change what we had yesterday to the change of today then that is even gooder, becage change is good...
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think of the change from yesterday to today, the good change, and then you look at the change we can have tomorrow, my gosh...
change is good...
and on
and on
and on !!!
(i wish i had that JIB-JAB animation on CHANGE) it explains it all...
the one of Obama tip toeing through the tulips with the sparkeling teeth in the big smile singing...
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WHOA!!! Are you kidding? The panhandle of FL is largely Republican, but I thought you'd vote Obama. I didn't see that coming.
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What I don't get are the people crying over his election like he's their savior. That confuses me.
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Obama started backpedaling during his Grant Park speech when he said his goals may not be accomplished in one year, two years, or one term.
But the best was when he said "we all will have to make sacrifices" and "the road will be long, the mountain will be steep." The looks on the faces of people in the crowd were priceless. They were like, "Huh? Us?"
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Who cares what color he is?
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Agreed. With me being conservative there wasn't any chance of the Dems getting my vote no matter who was on their ticket. I'd love to ee J.C. Watts on a conservative ticket.
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Seriously, if more people loved each other equally then things would be so much better.
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I hate everyone about the same. Does that count?
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Markets around the world are down and the Dow futures are off again today.
Money for the bailout is coming from China. That's great, isn't it....
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Markets around the world are down and the Dow futures are off again today.
Money for the bailout is coming from China. That's great, isn't it....
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If it has to come from somewhere, isn't China the best place?? I see them having the most to loose if we can't come out of this...
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1. Healthcare - pass a bill to reform our health insurance system. Make it more affordable to small businesses and the middle class.
2. Energy - invest more money in alternative energy and start drilling in Alaska. No more having our countries energy program controlled by foreign countries and big US oil companies.
3.The Wars in Iraq / Afganistan - End it now. get our troops home. The Iraqi government should be able to stand on its own. It's time to let the Iraqi people fight for the own freedom. Quit farting around in Afganistan, send more troops and do what it takes to capture and kill Bin Laden.
4. Tax Reform - don't know where to start.
5. Invest in America - create good jobs by rebuilding our infrastucture and develope an energy program that will eventually free us from our large dependance on foreign countries to provide our huge energy needs.
The biggest change I'm looking for with Obama is to find answers to our problems not just push it off to future generations.
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1. Healthcare - pass a bill to reform our health insurance system. Make it more affordable to small businesses and the middle class.
Both candidates proposals aren't perfect. Neither will really help until there's competition among insurance companies from across state borders. Until that happens there won't be much in the way of competition and no incentives to keep costs down.
Obama wants more government control. All that leads to is higher overall cost. Someone has to pay for the programs and that's the taxpayer, not business because they just pass the cost to the consumer.
2. Energy - invest more money in alternative energy and start drilling in Alaska. No more having our countries energy program controlled by foreign countries and big US oil companies.
Actually, Obama was against offshore drilling, then changed his mind so he could drill for votes. He embraced a compromise bill from the Gang Of 10 because it was politically expedient. However, Pelosi, Reid, et al are against offshore drilling so much they shut down Congress earlier this year to avoid a vote on it.
The Senate bill would have repealed tax breaks for oil companies theat the Dems have been fighting for two years and would have funded research for better fuel efficiency.
As far as alternative energy, both candidates were very similar, but noteably the Obama/Biden ticket is against clean coal.
3.The Wars in Iraq / Afganistan - End it now. get our troops home. The Iraqi government should be able to stand on its own. It's time to let the Iraqi people fight for the own freedom. Quit farting around in Afganistan, send more troops and do what it takes to capture and kill Bin Laden.
We can't just pull out and de-stabilize the entire Middle East. The Surge, which Obama was against, has worked. The US has handed over control of 13 of 16 provinces.
Just today Gen. Patreas said he's going to send more troops home.
You seriously can't believe for one second that Obama is going to cut and run from Iraq when we're almost finished there.
4. Tax Reform - don't know where to start.
I'll start for you, raise taxes in a Recession and head straight for Depression. That's a fact, it's happened everytime and the voting liberals just don't get it. Or they ignore it.
Lower taxes and everytime revenue to the Federal Government has increased. That's also a fact, it's happened everytime.
Increase taxes on businesses and they first cut jobs, then raise prices. We all get to pay more for our products. It's happened everytime.
Then there's his Socialist view coming out in him wanting to take my money and give it to someone else. To bring about financial parity. Heck, he could have given the world a demonstration by giving McCain 42% of his donations. That was the right thing to do, but he didn't do it.
5. Invest in America - create good jobs by rebuilding our infrastucture and develope an energy program that will eventually free us from our large dependance on foreign countries to provide our huge energy needs.
New Deal #2, or maybe TVA #2. That's artificial job creation and doesn't come from within. It's a way to keep people busy. Sure it provides a check for the families, but with higher prices it won't mean much.
You already touched on energy and both candidates were very similar.
The biggest change I'm looking for with Obama is to find answers to our problems not just push it off to future generations.
Fail. Where do you think Obama's trillion dollar spending increase is going to come from? He can't print the money, he's going to borrow it so he doesn't have to worry about it. Future generations will.
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The only way to accomplish what is needed is to cut taxes, increase business growth and cut spending.
During Reagan's years when taxes were cut revenue more than doubled. The problem was the Democratic controlled Congress that didn't stop spending.
The buracratic thought process makes them spend money. If they don't, they get less for their programs the following year. It's cyclical and ingrained and both parties have a problem with it.
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Doesn't matter who you put in office, they are all CROOKS!!
Keep this going, I'm getting a good laugh.
Oh by the way are we supposed to take down our American Flags
for the next 4 years or what??
Should we be flying an African flag ??
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LOL!!! @ all of the dummies that conveniently overlook/ignore the idiocy of both Barry and Biden.
There's so many of these, but watch this one.
Obama gaffes
And as for Biden, HOLYMONGOLOID!!! I think the Botox has pooled up in his cranium. Someone that f*cks up this bad should have been run off by the media.
Biden on the Great Depression
Here's a list of Biden gaffes. LINK
And we all know who the Democrats will blame for anything that happens.
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