Tragic. And just before XMAS.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by Mrs.ssippi

It's crystal balls, get it right. You promised that you would not tell anyone about the crystal ball. Now we are screwed.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot

I dunno, a family lost in the woods and the father trekking out after a week spent in the car- the family being saved from a cell phone ping and then finding the poor man 5 days later dead from trying to save them or whatever is a pretty amazing story no matter how you tell it.

Post up some of those other stories that happened recently and I'm sure the response would be the same.

Look it up in your local news. It happens every day, it just doesn't make national news and get painted in such a pretty picture.

You WANT it to be a nice sweet story. The fact that they guy put he and his family in that position should be the story, not the fact that he died trying to correct his mistake.

Point is, people do stupid sh!t like this all the time. WTF do you think there is such a thing as Darwin Awards and the like.

What if he didn't have his family with him?

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

I remember spotting H2Finally up Tip Over Challenge. He had wifey and kids riding with him. I'm just wondering if the same compassion would have been given if Tip Over lived up to it's name?


Or would they blame the spotter?

The spotter would have had an "accident" also.

[Mrs.ssippi]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

I remember spotting H2Finally up Tip Over Challenge. He had wifey and kids riding with him. I'm just wondering if the same compassion would have been given if Tip Over lived up to it's name?


Or would they blame the spotter?

It would be Shaggys fault.

[h2co-pilot]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

Look it up in your local news. It happens every day, it just doesn't make national news and get painted in such a pretty picture.

You WANT it to be a nice sweet story. The fact that they guy put he and his family in that position should be the story, not the fact that he died trying to correct his mistake.

Point is, people do stupid sh!t like this all the time. WTF do you think there is such a thing as Darwin Awards and the like.

What if he didn't have his family with him?

Go find me one such as this that I wouldn't have compassion for.

No wait- go find me one that you would have compassion for.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot

Go find me one such as this that I wouldn't have compassion for.

No wait- go find me one that you would have compassion for.

I think I know what will move Paragon.

"Father dies after trying to plant bomb at Nintendo factory."

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by h2co-pilot

Go find me one such as this that I wouldn't have compassion for.

No wait- go find me one that you would have compassion for.

I don't do requests...... in case you missed that on my resume

[h2co-pilot]

Okay- Sport

[PARAGON]

In all seriousness, for the people I know here and any that care to reason with my opinions.

I think I've made my point that he drove himself into the predicament. Once there they did not have minimal provisions to carry on. They were able to light fires but for some reason did not keep a large hot fire going utilizing available wood.

Secondly, they didn't setup camp once it was realized that they were going no where fast. Utilize the car and anything else they could get their hands on to set up a camp where they could build a large fire that would radiate the heat and keep the car warm.

Lastly, the only times he should leave the car is to forage for food and try to trap/kill small animals to eat and still continuing to build a stockpile of wood to keep a large fire going.

It just was a useless choice for him to venture out on his own unless he had some working knowledge of where he was going.... and it's obvious he did not.

[Dug]

WOw, first i heard he died. That bites for the family after the long search.
On another note , i cant believe some of the people here! No one has even the slightest clue including me, what it was like to be there or why they ended up where they did. Sure as hell , it wasnt planned. Give the guy a break , wheather he screwed up or did everything he could.
This thread is a good excuse to buy some survival gear for the back of your H2 or other ride this weekend. Maybe give some survival gear to someone in your family for there ride.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by DennisAJC

Or would they blame the spotter?

You blamed Adam.

[dеiтайожни]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

In all seriousness, for the people I know here and any that care to reason with my opinions.

I think I've made my point that he drove himself into the predicament. Once there they did not have minimal provisions to carry on. They were able to light fires but for some reason did not keep a large hot fire going utilizing available wood.

Secondly, they didn't setup camp once it was realized that they were going no where fast. Utilize the car and anything else they could get their hands on to set up a camp where they could build a large fire that would radiate the heat and keep the car warm.

Lastly, the only times he should leave the car is to forage for food and try to trap/kill small animals to eat and still continuing to build a stockpile of wood to keep a large fire going.

It just was a useless choice for him to venture out on his own unless he had some working knowledge of where he was going.... and it's obvious he did not.

Too bad for him he was a computer guru and not an outdoor survivalist. If everyone had everyone elses knowledge in bad situations, they'd make it out alive. I bet you wouldn't make it if you had to rebuild a computer server to save your life.

[DennisAJC]

Moral of the story.....

Always carry enough water, spam, gas, matches, flares, satellite phone, candy bars, insolene, chainsaw, stitches, guns, lift kit, shovel, baby food, stove, fridge, back hoe, generator, spare car, 4th and 7th season of MacGyver DVDs, blankets, inflatable raft, oxygen, defibrillator, tent, wetsuit, scuba gear, rope, anti-venom, bee keeper's hat, bug repellent, harpoon, umbrella, sunscreen, bear spray and chains.

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by DRTYFN

You blamed Adam.

That useless fawker!

[DennisAJC]

Originally Posted by Dug

Maybe give some survival gear to someone in your family for there ride.

Never thought of that.

[PARAGON]

Originally Posted by dеiтайожни

Too bad for him he was a computer guru and not an outdoor survivalist. If everyone had everyone elses knowledge in bad situations, they'd make it out alive. I bet you wouldn't make it if you had to rebuild a computer server to save your life.

I would use my Phone-a-Friend option

[dеiтайожни]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

I would use my Phone-a-Friend option

Aww... you'd call me for help? So sweet.

[Wisha Haddan H3]

Originally Posted by PARAGON

In all seriousness, for the people I know here and any that care to reason with my opinions.

I think I've made my point that he drove himself into the predicament. Once there they did not have minimal provisions to carry on. They were able to light fires but for some reason did not keep a large hot fire going utilizing available wood.

Secondly, they didn't setup camp once it was realized that they were going no where fast. Utilize the car and anything else they could get their hands on to set up a camp where they could build a large fire that would radiate the heat and keep the car warm.

Lastly, the only times he should leave the car is to forage for food and try to trap/kill small animals to eat and still continuing to build a stockpile of wood to keep a large fire going.

It just was a useless choice for him to venture out on his own unless he had some working knowledge of where he was going.... and it's obvious he did not.

Yep, you've made yourself crystal clear. You are a blind, cold-hearted fool; a small, petty man with no sense of compassion, sympathy, pity, understanding or charity.

Obviously the man made a series of mistakes that went from bad to worse. No duh. But he took responsibility for them and lost his life trying to help his family.

It's easy for you to sit in your lazy boy and call him stupid. Who knows ... maybe he was ... or maybe a dangerous world just got the best of him. But does it really matter? You're no paragon of perfection yourself, so why are you throwing stones? At least this guy didn't back down from the fight. His final actions were based on love for his family. Where's your heart of gold, paragon? ... missing in action. You make that clearer with every spiteful post.

Enough is enough. Leave the dead in peace and stfu.

[DennisAJC]

[CO Hummer]

Originally Posted by Mrs.ssippi

I mean look at CO when he is in Moab he always has candy and gatorade with him, you know just in case.

That's true. But you have to consider who you take along too. I was unlucky enough to ride with a woman that hid all my candy bars up her crack. If we had needed nourishment, we'd have been fishing them out with a rubber scraper. I wouldn't want to subject my family to that.