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12-20-2005, 05:55 AM
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PARAGON IS CORRECT ON THE TORNADO not working on large engines at least. We ran some tests with the device and oddly enough it did improve performance of light sports type cars to a noticeable feel it in the seat of your pants. I guess I mean imports really. When tried in a large block especially one of any size and weight it did not help at all. That is not an oppinion but, where some gear heads got to gether with nothing better to do that day and went down to a car parts store that sells them and got a bunch of them so they would fit many different size intake hose. It is not scientific or a super controlled experiment. But, the imports did benefit I guess because of the lighter wieght or something. We decided after just looking at performance to leave them in and it helped fuel economy again in the imports or small cars and the large rigs it did nothing.
Take or leave it but, most anyone on this forum that knows Me will tell You I research an idea or product till I'm sure when i share it here i'm not likely to be wrong although it does happen as no one is perfect.
PARAGON from My experience they do not work on large displacement engines but, do on the small engines. We did not try to figure out why except for just different guys throwing out guesses. Guys with the small cars kept theirs and used them. My guess is that the imports have such smaller intake piping and so short that it does give a blending effect of the fuel and air mixing as well as just helping to move more air through those small short pipes. But, in the end conjecture with as much trial as was reasonable.
TAZ
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12-20-2005, 11:43 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Klaus:
How much beer can we haul in your trailer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am thinking more along the lines of an elephant.
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12-20-2005, 11:52 AM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Klaus:
How much beer can we haul in your trailer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am thinking more along the lines of an elephant. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I get lost in the tech forum </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Smoky and the Bandit II
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12-20-2005, 12:12 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Klaus:
How much beer can we haul in your trailer? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am thinking more along the lines of an elephant. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
I get lost in the tech forum </div></BLOCKQUOTE>Smoky and the Bandit II </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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12-20-2005, 04:17 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HUMMERcustoms.com/TAZ:
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PARAGON IS CORRECT ON THE TORNADO not working on large engines at least. We ran some tests with the device and oddly enough it did improve performance of light sports type cars to a noticeable feel it in the seat of your pants. I guess I mean imports really. When tried in a large block especially one of any size and weight it did not help at all. That is not an oppinion but, where some gear heads got to gether with nothing better to do that day and went down to a car parts store that sells them and got a bunch of them so they would fit many different size intake hose. It is not scientific or a super controlled experiment. But, the imports did benefit I guess because of the lighter wieght or something. We decided after just looking at performance to leave them in and it helped fuel economy again in the imports or small cars and the large rigs it did nothing.
Take or leave it but, most anyone on this forum that knows Me will tell You I research an idea or product till I'm sure when i share it here i'm not likely to be wrong although it does happen as no one is perfect.
PARAGON from My experience they do not work on large displacement engines but, do on the small engines. We did not try to figure out why except for just different guys throwing out guesses. Guys with the small cars kept theirs and used them. My guess is that the imports have such smaller intake piping and so short that it does give a blending effect of the fuel and air mixing as well as just helping to move more air through those small short pipes. But, in the end conjecture with as much trial as was reasonable.
TAZ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Ric, one day your going to lead to someone's head exploding
After which TomP will claim the force of the explosion was multipied due to the beer-can tornado creator installed in the brain
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12-20-2005, 04:40 PM
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I hope not Phil. It is truly not My intentions. Hey just be glad You do not have to be at Our shop on the days I go over and hang to see what's going on.
I try to wait till later in the day so they get most of the stuff they are working on done for that day. This way I do not distract them to much because We start discussing conceptial ideas. They all have an idea about something that they want to try and I'm the worst of the bunch. Dragon tries to let the guys do something special as time allows or if they want to stay late or open the shop on Saturday to work on an idea. There is just not any time during the day anymore with so much custom work now.
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12-20-2005, 04:43 PM
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Ric,
Just givin ya a hard time...you know we love your posts!!!
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