My right wheel fell off...

[HUMMERDOGG]

Biffenator-

Dude... put freaking real steel bumpers on an H2 and I can assure you that it would take out most any vehicle in a car crash and keep on "HUMMING"... Geezgh, what do you expect with plastic bumpers??? They are plastic to save the rest of the people in this world for when we run into them in their non-Hummer vehicles... I hate people who take stupid ass pictures of Hummer car wrecks where the H2 is totalled and start to spout off how poorly made it is or how it only "looks" tough. Give me a break. If it weren't for the plastic bumpers and crumple zones that have been engineered into this vehicle, the DOT would never let it hit the road for fear of killing everyone in the other car if there were a wreck...

-HUMMERDOGG

TROLL POACHER (I hunt trolls even if it ain't troll hunting season...)

TROLL TAXIDERMIST (For those of you who get to them before I can. I provide this service free of charge...)

[Pbuilder]

I would call the govenor of calf and ask him what he would do. He probaly ask you Whos your father and where is he. them he would give you a drivers licence.

[TroysH2]

My right wheel when turning left rubs on the sway bar.(check your sway bar and inside tire for evidence of wear) This subject has been discused already. My point is that maybe there is a correlation between the two. Maybe this causes stress to related parts that fail. Just a thought.

[TJ]

Come on you guys...give the man a break. The wheel fell off of his new H2, and as we all know, this is not the first incidence of this happening to an H2. So what is it that makes him a "troll", because he came here to this board and posted about the information about this problem? Thank God that it happened on a relatively desolate road and he only ended up hitting and killing a tree. If there had been other people, other cars, passengers, pedestrians or children involved, the consequences could have been much worse. And for those of you who aren't aware, the federal safety regulators at the NHTSA have already opened up a defect investigation concerning cracked wheels on 1999 to 2003 GM trucks and SUVs.

As for him taking so long for this situation to be taken care of...as you some of you older board members will understand, I can tell you from firsthand experience that the wheels of justice turn slowly, very slowly indeed, and even much more slowly when GM's legal department gets involved. This guy obviously had enough money to buy an H2 with cash and has another vehicle to drive, and so in that situation, who cares if his H2 just sits in the driveway, in his garage or on the car dealer's lot until General Motors/Hummer decides that they better get their sh** together and take care of this problem?

[Detonate]

The guy is obviously pissed about his Hummer, and that's what he is here for, bashing Hummers. Thus a troll.

It's obvious from the way he says that the owners H2 hit a dodge and the Dodge drove away from the wreck. It was another poor attempt to bash the Hummer wrongfully.

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North Texas Hummer Team Member

2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

[TJ]

Yes I agree...he is obviously pissed about his H2. If the wheel fell off of your H2 like that, or like the SacBee guy, or the one in Florida, wouldn't you probably be just at least a little bit "pissed" off too? How would you feel if your wife and kids were in the car when something like that happened? Things like this are just not supposed to happen.

Shall I begin the discussion about the time that my H2's air bag system malfunctioned? Or how about the leaking fuel line? Or the defective shocks, or when the brakes malfunctioned? Enough said...does that make ME a troll because of all of the obvious problems that I have had? I love the H2, I just don't love the H2 that I have.

Believe me Detonate, I didn't wish for these to happen, they just did, and therefore I just have to deal with them. What could I do any differently? Any advice?

[TJ]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
The guy is obviously pissed about his Hummer, and that's what he is here for, bashing Hummers. Thus a troll.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Just an another thought.....So, if any of us are 'pissed' about our Hummers, and in the estimation of the 'community', we're here for 'bashing' and therefore not welcome on this Hummer H2 board

[Detonate]

Look. I don't give a rats ass what happened to your hummer. Or his.

The fact is, when you come here and purposely make **** up, or embelsh to tarnish the H2 unecessarily you are a troll.

Did anyone have anything but sympathy for this guy until he started in with the Anchorage H2 crash story? No. Why? Because he had a legitimate beef. But now he's just trying to cast the H2 in a bad light by purposely leaving out LARGE parts of a story. Thus making him a troll.

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North Texas Hummer Team Member

2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

[Detonate]

Let's say that after that Hummer had plowed through 6 vehicles and hit that Dodge head on, that it then rolled into a Mailbox.

How fair is it to go around saying that a Hummer was totalled after running into a mailbox?

It's bull****. The guy is obviously turned troll, and some of us are calling bull****.

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North Texas Hummer Team Member

2003 Red H2 equipped with Tough Country Heavy Duty Armor Series Front End with Winch, Rear Bumper, Brush Guard, and Roof Rack.

[This message was edited by Detonate on 01-26-04 at 06:57 PM.]

[Biff]

Are trolls large or small? I am confused. Norwegian Trolls are small aren't they? Weren't JRR Tolkien's trolls tall? Anyway, I'm 6'4".

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Detonate:
The guy is obviously pissed about his Hummer, and that's what he is here for, bashing Hummers. Thus a troll.

Did anyone have anything but sympathy for this guy until he started in with the Anchorage H2 crash story? No. Why? Because he had a legitimate beef. But now he's just trying to cast the H2 in a bad light by purposely leaving out LARGE parts of a story. Thus making him a troll.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The cop that came to the scene of my H2 wheel (and axle) separation told me the story about the H2 and the Dodge. I related it exactly as it was told to me. Since you are a TEXAN and I am a Troll, it is not surprising that you know more about it than I. I thought the most interesting part of the story was the fact that the Chrysler/Dodge/Hummer dealer lost his license. For life. There is more to that story though. The prosecutor says that said owner has black-outs due to seizures.

To set the record straight, I am not here to bash Hummers. I have received extremely valuable information from the thread of my original post. This has been invaluable. I will likewise advance the supposition that this information is of value to other readers. If not "of value" then maybe as entertainment to Texans.

I am a bit frustrated, though, that my big tough Hummer had two major failures in the first two months that I owned it. This has been reflected in my comments.

I have been very civil with the dealer, and (per his dialog with me) he has been representing me well to GM. GM recently offered to provide the repair parts, including body-work free of charge. BUT, they want me to pay for labor. The biggest problem for them comes from their legal team's desire to keep GM from being "at fault." I have been told that if I would turn it into my insurance company that "GM would have taken care of it." That seems odd. If they'd fix it, I'd be happy to sign a statement that indemnifies them. I'm going down to the dealership today to try to negotiate a trade of this Hummer for a new one.

Speaking of Anchorage, I recently heard that if Alaska was split into two half-sized states, that Texas would be the third-largest state?

Biff the Troll
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I.want.a.new.Hummer@Biffs.Biz

[Biff]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
You can't be that ****ing stupid, can you?
I bet you believe all of those emails you get telling you that Microsoft/AOL/ect is going to send you a check for keeping the chain going. Inbred moron.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What exactly am I being stupid about? Anyway, "et cetera" is abbreviated as "etc." I hate it when people can't spell "etc."


Biff the Troll
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I.want.a.new.Hummer@Biffs.Biz

[DRTYFN]

The one spelling error I make and you whip out the microscope you use to look at your dick with. You might want to print that mistake out and frame it because it's a rarity. Nit-picking twit.

"FYI, The owner of the Hummer and Dodge dealerships has had his license revoked. He ran his first H2 head-on into a Dodge pick-up. The H2 was totalled, the Dodge pick-up drove itself home."

Remember that? If you had read the original article you'd realize why you sounded like a complete ninny. The H2 hit a total of five(5) other vehicles. And the Dodge did not drive itself home, you retard.
Now whip out your dick microscope and start looking over this post.

BTW, I was wondering why you choose to come in here and pretend that you've got a Hummer?

S&B Member since '03

[Biff]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by DRTYFN:
BTW, I was wondering why you choose to come in here and pretend that you've got a Hummer?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Pretend I own a Hummer? I paid cash for my 2003 H2 last May. The wheel fell off, hense this thread.

I normally own higher-end vehicles not General Motors products. My experience with a GM truck based poser has been a drag. What is your point? Are you from Texas?

Biff the Troll
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i.want.a.new.hummer@biffs.biz

[DRTYFN]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Biff:

Pretend I own a Hummer? I paid cash for my 2003 H2 last May. The wheel fell off, hense this thread.

I normally own higher-end vehicles not General Motors products. My experience with a GM truck based poser has been a drag. What is your point? Are you from Texas?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not real bright, are you? Did you know that the word "from" is used to indicate origin? Notice the word "Oregon" next to the word "from"? That means that I reside or live in Oregon. That wasn't so tough, was it?

GM truck based poser? First, it's poseur, not poser. Second, just because you're not smart enough or determined enough to get GM to remedy your situation doesn't make the H2 a poseur. I had lots of problems with my first H2(that I paid cash for-oooh, you not the only one to do that hotshot) but I "convinced GM that they needed to buy mine back and give me a new one. This one has been relatively trouble free.
Might I suggest that instead of being a whiny snivelling little bitch that you research the lemon laws in Alaska, form a plan of attack and take the battle to them.
And why would you own a "high end" vehicle in Alaska? Oh yeah, leave the snotty ass attitude in your closet with your dresses and high heels.

S&B Member since '03

[Biff]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>DRTYFN: "Not real bright, are you? Did you know that the word "from" is used to indicate origin? Notice the word "Oregon" next to the word "from"? That means that I reside or live in Oregon. That wasn't so tough, was it?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE> No, of course it wasn't tough. It's just that "from" means nothing if you are a poser just like the GM Hummer. I assumed as much since you are so full of venom. Your insults are hilarious. It must be terribly debilitating that you take your unimportant nitwit little life so seriously.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>DRTYFN: "First, it's poseur, not poser."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> Ha-ha-ha, this must be a joke! A poseur is poser, not the other way around! Similarly, a jackass is a nitwit not the other way around.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>DRTYFN: "Second, just because you're not smart enough or determined enough to get GM to remedy your situation doesn't make the H2 a poseur. I had lots of problems with my first H2 (that I paid cash for-oooh, you not the only one to do that hotshot) but I convinced GM that they needed to buy mine back and give me a new one. Might I suggest that instead of being a whiny snivelling little bitch that you research the lemon laws in Alaska, form a plan of attack and take the battle to them."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> I have a plan of attack and I have been executing it since September. As I have mentioned in this thread, I have all the time in the world. I couldn't care less that I am not driving this GM truck. There are plenty of better SUVs, many of which I have owned or I have had the use of. I am stating this to indicate a valid frame-of-reference, not to be a Hotshot. you nitwit. You are probably aware that recent auto and truck magazine reveiws of the Hummer and other SUVs state the same.

Multiple attacks at my intellegence? You were one that couldn't spell an extremely commonly used 3-letter abbreviation after being spotted an "e", a "t", and a "c".

As far as I am concerned, the Hummer I own is merely an asset that I have been dealing with with as little effort as neccessary to continue the attack. The manager of the dealership is a friend of mine. He has been interfacing with GM in my behalf. As detailed in this thread: In September GM's regional manager said he would not honor the warranty repair. An appeal took a month and it merely ended with a verbal rubber stamp of the regional manager's decision. I let a month go by with my manager friend talking to the regional parts manager and the regional service manager. We were looking foward to a November GM meeting in Detroit with some people he felt would have some sway over the regional boys. In December, the regional parts manager and the regional service manager were on board to repair the vehicle. As I did in September, I demanded a letter of decision. My manager friend continued this demand in October, November and December. In Decmber GM promised one. It was re-requested and promised over the course of the next eight weeks. Last week they finally sent a letter that offered to provide parts for the repair, but not labor.

If I am successful in my pursuit of GM --I will be-- the vehicle still has the same value it did when it wrecked. Damages will be tripled. In my experience regarding legal matters, patience benefits the plaintif, much more than it does the defendant. A new Hummer is not what I want out this. I have no desire to own another one of these. I am out for blood. GM's behavior has been appalling. They have actually said "we are a large corporation and we don't care if you sue." Guns are drawn. We are sending them a letter gining them two weeks to perform. We now know they won't do this. So in two weeks a suit will be filed.

Maybe this information helps you understand my actions.

To be clear, I am patient because: (1) I don't give a **** that I am not driving the GM Hummer; (2) GM has been digging themselves a generous hole to fall in; and (3) patience has benefitted me in the past in these kinds of conflicts, and I am sure that it will in this case.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>DRTYFN quote, "And why would you own a "high end" vehicle in Alaska? Oh yeah, leave the snotty ass attitude in your closet with your dresses and high heels."<HR></BLOCKQUOTE> You nitwit! Alaska has some wonderful roads and off-roads. I have driven all over Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, Nevada, Montana, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Louisiana, Arkansas, Georgia and Florida. I keep cars in the Lower 48. I grew up at North Lake Tahoe. I have done off-roading in the western states and Mexico. For on-road use one of my favorite road cars for Alaska is the Porsche Carrera 4S, since it is a year-around toy. My favorite road car in the lower 48 is the Dodge Viper GTS, as long as it isn't raining or snowing.

Again, I state much of this to be certain that you understand that my frame-of-reference allows me the humility to state a few of my observations.

I originally started this thread to give information that my girlfriend thought other Hummer people should have. Unexpectedly, it became valuable to me almost immediately.

Your hissing and spitting does little for this forum or this thread. It smells like youthful arrogance and foolishness. It is humorous. However, I think you desparately need to get a life ....etc.

Love,

Your "snotty ass", "dresses and high-heels" "troll" ex-Hummer owner, ex-forum participant, and non-poser,

Biff
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hummers.are.crap@Biffs.Biz

[This message was edited by Biff on 02-09-04 at 07:10 AM.]

[DRTYFN]

The more you spout off the more you sound like the kind of low life that would stage this whole thing to get a settlement. I hope that if that's true that you end up in the pokey on fraud charges with Leroy as your cell mate/special buddy. What kind of smokes do you like? You'll probably need them to buy off the fellas in the joint so they'll give your ass a break every now & then. You can brag to them how you used to drive a Viper when it wasn't raining. And they'll probably tell you that you're driving their spitting viper.

If the wheel really fell off because of a mechanical failure GM would be right there to rectify the situation and make sure that it wasn't going to be a recurring problem on other H2s.

I'm sure you are patient. A sorry loser like you only has time on his hands. Time and hand lotion. BTW how much does your "girlfriend" charge you per hour? You probably get the full fat pig rate. She might even be tacking on some extra since she has to put up with your foul attitude.

After checking with Dictionary.com I stand corrected on the poser/poseur issue. I've always known them to be two seperate words. Now they seem to be commingled. Damn watering down of the English language.

Have fun on the pokey, you malcontent temper-tantrum throwing little bitch.

ps. Having the "hummers.are.crap@Biffs.Biz" & "i.want.a.new.hummer@biffs.biz" really makes you look like a hissy throwing foot-stomping little ****. It destroys any possiblity of credibility that might remain after people read your *******-like posts.
But I'm sure you "couldn't care less". Idiot.

pps. Since you're pointing out mistakes, what's "We are sending them a letter gining them two weeks to perform." mean? Are you cotton ginning them or asking them for a drink? I bet they(GM) knock your dick in the dirt.


S&B Member since '03

[This message was edited by DRTYFN on 02-09-04 at 08:24 AM.]

[This message was edited by DRTYFN on 02-09-04 at 08:27 AM.]

[DennisAJC]

THE SCORE IS NOW:

DRTYFN = 11

BiffNaked = 0


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Biff:
I have driven all over Washington, Oregon, California, Idaho, Nevada, Montana, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico, Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Louisiana, Arkansas, Georgia and Florida.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think we've just found the infamous "Highway Livestock Molester". I hear the reward is quite big.

Looks like Biff has no teeth by the looks of his avatar. His cellmate/lover Tyrone gonna be mighty pleased.

What a loser. Makes up a story to get attention. Gotta feel some pity for the have not.

" S & B Member Since 2003 "

[Buckeye Hummer]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Biff:In my experience regarding legal matters, patience benefits the plaintif, much more than it does the defendant. A new Hummer is not what I want out this. I have no desire to own another one of these. I am out for blood. GM's behavior has been appalling. They have actually said "we are a large corporation and we don't care if you sue." Guns are drawn. We are sending them a letter gining them two weeks to perform. We now know they won't do this. So in two weeks a suit will be filed.
[This message was edited by Biff on 02-09-04 at 07:10 AM.]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are a fool. First, patience breaks down the plaintiff and benefits the defendant. I'm not sure what experience you have but you're dead wrong. Furthermore, don't sue GM. You're going to lose fast and hard much more than you already have. GM has many more important issues to address than your silly obsession with the Hummer. Your email address alone is sufficient to show your level of professionalism. Have fun paying those legal bills dummy.

[SJ]

I'm pushing this thread back to the top - this guy is full of horse shyyyyyyyyyyyyyt! Your post seemed straight enough until you started bashing GM from here to Detroit.

I've owned plenty of GM products and always walk away with nothing but good things to say.

Look at all these people with toyotas that drop Chevy V8s in them. I feel bad if you had a lemon, but stuff happens to all makes. You've got 100% troll stank on ya; Detonate and DRTYFN have you pegged right.

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'03 H2 [Sold]
'03 Chevrolet Silverado Z71, 6" Rancho Lift, Rear Factory Locker, 35" ProComp MTs

[Biff]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Buckeye Hummer:
You are a fool. First, patience breaks down the plaintiff and benefits the defendant. I'm not sure what experience you have but you're dead wrong. ...Your email address alone is sufficient to show your level of professionalism.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What?!?!?!?!? "...patience breaks down the plaintiff..." The plaintiff, in this case, is the one with the patience. Whoever is patient is NOT breaking down. Right?

My e-mail address "shows my level of professionalsim"? Are you serious? This is a forum. Not a professional publication. For instance, look at the "DRTYFN" posts. His clever and humorous posts blasting me for this and that are funny and cute, not professional or unprofessional. You totally miss the point. Besides, all of my e-mail addresses are legitimate e-mail addresses.

Biff the Troll
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i.want.a.new.Aston.Martin@biffs.biz

[This message was edited by Biff on 02-13-04 at 12:26 AM.]