Hurrah!

[frenzy1]

Originally Posted by jmsspratlin

its biotch........fruitcake

fo zure !



slap da biaaaaooooooooooootcccccccccchh !

[KenP]

Originally Posted by frenzy1

respect brotha !


^^ hope this ain't yo dad !

Holy crap!

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

I had the same reaction.

[jmsspratlin]

LOL

[frenzy1]

[jmsspratlin]

Originally Posted by frenzy1

Frenzy, where did you git that gun? Is that a 12 guage?

[zoe]

Originally Posted by Hummer Aficionado_VT

Not to brag, but I once got into a heated arguement with my history teacher as to why his Prius is causing more environmental dismay than my eventual H2ever will!

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas and emits at least three times as much co2. If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question. A subsequent peer reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

[frenzy1]

Originally Posted by jmsspratlin

Frenzy, where did you git that gun? Is that a 12 guage?

traded da gun fo me wifey at the pawn shop !

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by zoe

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas and emits at least three times as much co2. If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question. A subsequent peer reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

most nubees come here on their first post and say" hi, i'm new to the forum, i own or wana own a H-3 & i hope i learn a lot"

u come in and start talking BS WITHOUT REFERENCE MATERIAL...

care to start again

[zoe]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

care to start again

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integr...sus_prius.html

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by zoe

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integr...sus_prius.html

THIS report by Pacific Institute

Hummer versus Prius:
“Dust to Dust” Report Misleads the Media and Public with Bad Science

by Peter H. Gleick, May, 2007
The CNW Marketing Research, Inc.’s 2007 “Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles From Concept to Disposal” caught the interest of the media and the public with its claim that a Hummer H3 SUV has a lower life-cycle energy cost than a Toyota Prius hybrid. Closer inspection suggests that the report’s conclusions rely on faulty methods of analysis, untenable assumptions, selective use and presentation of data, and a complete lack of peer review. Even the most cursory look reveals serious biases and flaws: the average Hummer H1 is assumed to travel 379,000 miles and last for 35 years, while the average Prius is assumed to last only 109,000 miles over less than 12 years. These selective and unsupported assumptions distort the final results. A quick re-analysis with peer-reviewed data leads to completely opposite conclusions: the life-cycle energy requirements of hybrids and smaller cars are far lower than Hummers and other large SUVs. CNW should either release its full report, including methods, assumptions, and data, or the public should ignore its conclusions. Unfortunately, “Dust to Dust” has already distorted the public debate.

Your reference all ready has distorted direction. If you would PLEASE do a few things for me...

1. do you own a HUMMER
2. if you do , what model
3. if you don't currently own a HUMMER but did in the
past, what model was it
4. if you never owned a HUMMER what do you
drive now and WHO paid for it.
5. what organization do you work for
6. who paid you to come on THIS HUMMER FORUM
7. AGAIN PLEASE elaborate on your sources and
reference material


OH YEAH !


NUMBER 8. KISS MY ASS

[fourfourto]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

THIS report by Pacific Institute

Hummer versus Prius:
?Dust to Dust? Report Misleads the Media and Public with Bad Science

by Peter H. Gleick, May, 2007
The CNW Marketing Research, Inc.?s 2007 ?Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles From Concept to Disposal? caught the interest of the media and the public with its claim that a Hummer H3 SUV has a lower life-cycle energy cost than a Toyota Prius hybrid. Closer inspection suggests that the report?s conclusions rely on faulty methods of analysis, untenable assumptions, selective use and presentation of data, and a complete lack of peer review. Even the most cursory look reveals serious biases and flaws: the average Hummer H1 is assumed to travel 379,000 miles and last for 35 years, while the average Prius is assumed to last only 109,000 miles over less than 12 years. These selective and unsupported assumptions distort the final results. A quick re-analysis with peer-reviewed data leads to completely opposite conclusions: the life-cycle energy requirements of hybrids and smaller cars are far lower than Hummers and other large SUVs. CNW should either release its full report, including methods, assumptions, and data, or the public should ignore its conclusions. Unfortunately, ?Dust to Dust? has already distorted the public debate.

Your reference all ready has distorted direction. If you would PLEASE do a few things for me...

1. do you own a HUMMER
2. if you do , what model
3. if you don't currently own a HUMMER but did in the
past, what model was it
4. if you never owned a HUMMER what do you
drive now and WHO paid for it.
5. what organization do you work for
6. who paid you to come on THIS HUMMER FORUM
7. AGAIN PLEASE elaborate on your sources and
reference material


OH YEAH !


NUMBER 8. KISS MY ASS

Hey I have a pic just like that

Its my brother in laws

[jmsspratlin]

Originally Posted by frenzy1

traded da gun fo me wifey at the pawn shop !

LOL...you're a riot

[jmsspratlin]

Originally Posted by Steve - SanJose

All I have to do is take one look at that picture, and there's no f**king way I'm going to drive some lame-ass Prius.

Looks gay

[zoe]

Originally Posted by RubHer Yellow Ducky

THIS report by Pacific Institute

The source for the Dust to Dust publication won't release the methodology for the results that they published. But it is known that they've used arbitrary life miles to arrive at their results and so the study is flawed from the get go. And, it matters not which Hummer you consider for life energy. All Hummers require the same approximate quantities of material (from similar sources, I'm sure), have the same limited MPG of 13, and emit nearly 14,000 pounds of co2 each year.

Again, I've no idea to what scientific data the OP is referring to arrive at his conclusions. I just know that this publication is the most wide spread publication regarding same.

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by zoe

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas(the H-3 gets as much as 20 MPG) and emits at least three times as much co2.(your reference is ???) If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer(Exactly WHO) reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question(by who). A subsequent peer(by who) reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

BY WHO...REFERENCES...ANYWER QUESTIONS PLEASE

[RubHer Yellow Ducky]

Originally Posted by zoe

The source for the Dust to Dust publication won't release the methodology for the results that they published. But it is known that they've used arbitrary life miles to arrive at their results(by who) and so the study is flawed from the get go(says who). And, it matters not which Hummer you consider for life energy. All Hummers require the same approximate quantities of material (from similar sources, I'm sure), (how can you be so ignorant)have the same limited MPG of 13,(are you naturally stupid) and emit nearly 14,000 pounds of co2 each year. (my GOD man you are 1 dumb FSOB)

Again, I've no idea to what scientific data the OP is referring to arrive at his conclusions. I just know that this publication is the most wide spread publication regarding same.

I bet your a vegen and work for greenpeace...

[Hummer Aficionado_VT]

Originally Posted by zoe

How's that? Hummer require more steel and materials for construction and it uses at least three times as much gas and emits at least three times as much co2. If you're citing the Dust to Dust article, that's now being refuted by peer reviewed studies. The results for this article used arbitrary life terms for both the Hummer (almost 300,000 lifetime miles) and the Prius (just over 100,000 life time miles) vehicles and other methods of analysis are now being called into question. A subsequent peer reviewed re-analysis has cited that the life cycle energy requirements for the Prius hybrid (as well as any small car) are far lower than that of Hummers and SUV's.

Wowza. I'm gone two days and this is what happens?

Oh, dear. Well first zoe, way to be a hippie. -One who has obviously tired of the Prius forum. I think its great that you are so avidly protecting our earth, and saving all us Hummer enthusiasts from ourselves! I mean, if you wouldn't do it, who would, right? By the way, I had no idea about what the 'Dust to Dust' paper was. (But thanks for bringing it up and fueling the fire!) I was actually referring to the H2 being more 'green' than your precious Prius. There are multiple articles online, as well as multiple topics in this forum with the evidence supporting my view. I don't really like arguing with someone in posts, and I know you're trying to come across as a really intelligent person. -But zoe, honestly, if you come to a HUMMER FORUM trying to badmouth HUMMERS and promote a small gas/electric vehicle made by a Japanese auto company, that's just dumb.

By the way, welcome to the forum!

[KenP]

That huge zinc mine in Canada where Toyota gets their material for the batteries sure is a nice thing for the environment. Those batteries sure are easy to dispose of, too.

Humm, come to think of it, Toyota's plastic sure is good for the landfills too.

I wonder how long all that garbage sits before decomposing since it can't be recycled.

Just curious Zoe, how much energy was used developing the new technology for the batteries and plastics in the Prius? Heck, how much energy is used making those products so they can sit in landfills for decades to come?

I was also curious what it costs to ship those exotic materials back and forth across the globe to build the Prius.

Virtually the entire H2 can be recycled.

Oh yeah, what's the usable life expantancy of the Prius? I don't mean how long it's plastics will be in the landfills, but what's the true life expectancy? Isn't it half the H2's?

Wow.

I think I'd rather get the gas Honda Civic that's better for the environment.

I guess the Prius is like that enviro concert going on right now around the world. It doesn't mater what it costs the environment to put the show on, as long as they appear to be doing some good it's ok.

[DRTYFN]

Originally Posted by zoe

This nubee didn't provide reference material as the OP didn't provide a source for his position. I was assuming he was speaking of the Dust to Dust article, that has since been refuted by peer reviewed data. I should add that I'm not sure why you've a preconception that what I say is BS without having any knowledge of what I reference.

http://www.pacinst.org/topics/integr...sus_prius.html

Sorry, but use a forged IP and join the banned. Take your fact ignoring agenda-carrying hippy ass somewhere else.