Moab Spring 2K6 Pics

[h2co-pilot]

Dammit!

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PARAGON:
We know it can't be just because the front end was drooping some because we do it all of the time without that kind of toe-in.

Don't forget that there is more suspension travel on a lifted H2, so you will get more extremes. Also, those big tires grip incredibly well, and will by themselves toe in/out just beacuse they are gripping and pulling so well.

While it preserves the pitman and idler arms, I am betting that it also reduces the amount of flexion experienced by the centerlink in situations such as the pictures shows.

May well do, I hadn't given it much thought, but will get back around to installing my one, once I get a Rancho steering stab, and see if it helps.

This was without even locking the front, but the wheels are spinning and you can clearly see what happens as the suspension bounces and the center link flexes, causing the tires to deflect and pull in/out. That is a good way to break a tie rod.

[img]http://www.*******club.com/events/060422/images/027.jpg[/img] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>It just looks to me like your front tires are trying to get up the hill faster than the rest of the truck.

Phil, does there happen to be video of you doing the same thing the picture shows?

Here we go with coincidences again.

Phil, your pic was before you blew the CV, correct? I wonder if there is any weight to my far-fetched idea of both tires toeing in stressing the CVs?

It's admittedly far-fetched. Especially since neither of you were locked up front and it's going through a diff anyway but ......

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by PhilD:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alec W:
When you engage the rear lockers the whole truck shudders and IMO it’s also related to the rubber contact too.

Too much traction when the locker is not needed, that's how you'll break stuff. With all the traction you have at Moab with those tires you rarely need to use the rear locker. In fact you can run many of the trails in 4Hi Open and only switch to 4Lo for the tougher obstacles.

FWIW I never use a rear locker when turning (apart from in bad mud), doesn't do the vehicle any good. Same goes for the front, it is usually only on for a few seconds, then straight off again. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I am always on/off with the rear locker. I try to never have it on if the truck is turning unless it's just absolutely necessary.

[CO Hummer]

Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
So does that mean I prolly did Escalator in 2WD?

(**pleasesayyesbecausethatwouldmakemeadrivingmah-sheeeeen**)

[h2co-pilot]

Originally posted by Alec W:
I’ll go out on a limb here and give my opinion on Big Nasty.

This is just an opinion and this should in no way be taken as inflammatory, but bottom line is that this is not a reliable setup and I don’t see you having much fun with it. It does look cool as hell though.

You guys are for the most part running the same trails as us stockers and other than a few optional obstacles (that I never saw you try) there is not much you can do that a stock H2 with 37s can’t.

Given how far you drive and your need to have a decent chance of getting home you need to (a) get a trailer or (b) take the lift off and go to stock rims, HD tie-rods and 37s.

We did everything on the trails we ran except Hell's gate because of fear of gripping like Phil's did at the beginning decent and the hot tub because that had been done last trip. Everything else was taken in stride and harder lines were taken out of boredom. We could have wheeled more but- yes, the long trip home is more important than pushing it and Ken becomes understandably cautious after something goes wrong.

The lift gives you an advantage- in articulation and clearance. The tires though grippy are good, but I am considering a smaller tread.

I am happy with all except the extra play which makes it toe and possibly makes it more prone to half shaft and/or CV breakage. I am sure to find out the issue and resolve it.

[CO Hummer]

Originally posted by h2co-pilot:
Everything else was taken in stride and harder lines were taken when I was pickin the Moab crusties from my nose

fixed

[PARAGON]

Originally posted by Alec W:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by PhilD:
you generally won't find them if you are following a stock H2.

I was following you </div></BLOCKQUOTE>I don't remember you on Escalator